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Old 05-02-2019, 11:23 AM   #4679
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Haven't heard of EPS - this need a rack put in or anything? You know of any advantages/disadvantages to just putting in an upgraded box? I'll do some digging into how they work but a cliffsnotes version would be appreciated (as I go crosseyed when engineers get awfully impressed by their new inventions....)

Thanks for the insight on the coil-overs. Like the Sniper, I just kinda keep talking myself out of it but I'm pretty sure I know I'll be damn pleased with it if I ever get it done. Would you recommend focusing more on the front end before dicking with the rear?
EPAS hasn't been around for too long. Less than 10 years if i had to guess. Geoff is the man over there though if you need more info on their systems.

https://epasperformance.com/collecti...evrolet-camaro

No, a rack is not needed. These units are Electric Steering assist and are designed to work with factory components. Like i said, the Column will need to be modified. Or, the kit can be purchased with an already modified IDIDIT column (and i would recommend a column too if you have excessive steering slop)

As far as which has an advantage over another? Eh. Hard to say. I think it comes down to preference. One advantage over electric is that you don't have to run any fluid lines which is nice. No matter which way you go, you're going to like it.

BUT, at the cost of an EPAS system, you're now in steering rack territory. Not the BEST racks, but you're now in the Unisteer rack price range. I typically don't recommend Unisteer racks however. They don't play nice with aftermarket geometry. At least in the Mustangs. But it is something for you to consider. My choice? I'd go with a Borgeson box over a unisteer rack. But i'd take a higher end rack (Flaming River?) over a Borgeson box.

And yes, absolutely focus on the front. I often times have to talk customers out of spending $2K on a 4-link in favor of better front suspension/steering & braking. If your front is dialed in then by all means, otherwise you'll get more return on your investment in the front/brakes.

But, if you decide to bite the bullet and go with a full suspension conversion, the Mustang II kits are by far the best bang for you buck. It's not even close, part for part cost vs cost.

(Mustang II kits have almost nothing do with an actual MII. The name refers to the design which was lifted from MII cars, but does not share the same parts etc. Ironically, you cannot actually put a MII kit in an actual Mustang II)

GM Guys will refer to them as IFS Subframe Kits. But it's the same damn thing. But that's for when you're ready to drop $4K-ish and completely overhaul the front end.
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