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Old 01-23-2018, 03:33 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
What bothers me most? Ownership.

Lamar Hunt founded the AFL and hired a brilliant mind in Hank Stram. The Chiefs appeared in the first Super Bowl and won the 4th Super Bowl. But it seems like winning that Super Bowl mellowed Hunt's passion for a winner.

He fired Hank Stram, allowed the roster to become old and hired two uninspired head coaches in Paul Wiggin and Tom Bettis. He finally decided to go back to his roots and hire Marv Levy, he fired him just as he was turning the team around (and admitted later that it was his biggest mistake). He allowed a young Bill Polian to leave the front office but at least hired another young, innovative coach in John Mackovic, drafted a QB, only to fire Mackovic after the Chiefs first playoff appearance in 15 years.

After the brief Frank Gansz debacle, in which Nick Lowery led a player revolt, Hunt began to "Play It Safe", first by hiring Carl Peterson, then Marty Schottenheimer. The next 15 years, the Chiefs "played it safe" by hiring Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermiel, Herm Edwards, Romeo Crennel and Andy Reid. Todd Haley was the only "inspired" hire but anyone with a ****ing brain could see from his time in Arizona that he was a ticking time bomb and in no way, shape or form had the mental makeup to be a head coach.

So, as the Chiefs traded for yet another veteran QB, while watching former coaches reach the Super Bowl (Cowher was the first, now Pederson), the franchise is a mess, the roster, even after 5 full years of Reid and Dorsey, is chock full of holes, leaving overpaid and old veterans with more than $80 million in Dead Cap money accrued during Dorsey's tenure, the Chiefs are at a standstill, once again.

With a Playoff Franchise Record of 9-18, 4 losses of which have come during Andy Reid's tenure, this team is once again stuck in neutral and has nowhere near a championship level defense in order to make a serious Super Bowl Run.

I have zero hope and zero expectations that any of that changes in the next 5 years and based on the last 50, it'll likely never, ever change.
but i thought Mahomes made us an instant SB contendor

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You guys don’t see a trend? Okay coaches have left here and had success. What was the difference?

Bill Cowher-Ben Roethlisberger
Tony Dungy-Peyton Manning
Mike McCarthy-Aaron Rodgers
Marv Levy-Jim Kelly
Doug Pederson-Carson Wentz

You see the big picture now? The biggest problem by this franchise was solved last year when they finally did what was needed to be done.

Every playoff game we’ve lost (aside from the most recent) was because we didn’t have the better QB. It’s no damn secret that the only time we had any consistent playoff success since 1970 was when Joe Montana was leading us.
this list kind of works against you as Manning has a totally shit post season record (especially with the Colts), Kelly has a totally shit SB record, Wentz's backup is leading the team and is putting up the same numbers
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Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round. Why? Because Chiefs.
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