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Old 01-05-2018, 01:42 PM   #71
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I'm still not convinced that he's league ready but we shall see.

He wasn't the wildly successful destroyer of worlds that time has painted him as. He had some good years and some pretty bad ones. He took over a team that was SB ready, beat his old squad because he knew their plays and then proceeded to turn that team into a .500 squad.

He never took over woebegone squads and yet went to the playoffs all of 5 times in 11 years. Andy's gone 12 times in 19 and 4 times in 5 despite taking over far worse franchises both times.

He's an 'offensive guru' who's teams in TB were never in the top half of the league in points (never a single time) despite having his fingerprints all over them over the latter part of his run there.

He's fine. He's not a bad coach (Vance Joseph...HA!), but I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a particularly good one. I'd rather have Andy and by a fair amount. And he's been in a broadcast booth for a decade or so - that's a tough ask for him to just show up ready for the grind and with the energy he had 10 years ago.

But hey, to each their own. The guy may be Vermiel part 2 and be a problem. But I'm not going to worry too much about it either way - there's no assurances that he will and we have a new hotness coming in under center. I'm not going to lose sleep over the possibility that Gruden is as much steak as sizzle. His history suggests he probably isn't.
While I agree with most of your post, I think you're forgetting that he turned around a Raiders team that was 4-12 the season before his arrival. And in Tampa, his QB was Brad Johnson. So, I'd cut him a little slack there. Yeah, I don't think he's a great coach, either. But I think a lot of folks in this thread are selling him a little short.
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