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Old 12-25-2017, 01:17 PM   #2652
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Originally Posted by unlurking View Post
I thought his response perfectly pointed out that your equating of Ren to Hitler was flawed, and that we had already seen Luke NOT make the decision to "kill Hitler" when he was vulnerable. No further answer required.
Sure, let’s have this debate I guess. Luke did have this option before, and you better believe he chose to wipe out Nazi Germany for the greater good.

Are you really arguing the ethics of Luke “lighting his lightsaber” when he was responsible for the deaths of over 300,000 mothers, fathers, innocent contractors and good people in the Death Star? Are we just choosing to gloss over that fact now? So why did Luke decide to commit one of the biggest genocides ever? (His kill count is behind Tarkin, but more than his father). He did it for the greater good, because he knew killing this amount of people would ultimately save more - a decision he weighed but ultimately didn't make with Ren.

Luke’s decision to ignite his lightsaber game at a moment of weakness, similar to when he tried to kill his father in ESB, and when he lopped his arm off in Jedi. The fact is, failure and these massive mental lapses are a major part of Luke’s character.

But if claiming that igniting his lightsaber ruins his character helps justify your stance on TLJ, that’s fine, but we’re going to disagree.

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He seems concerned with what I would do in that situation, as if my hypothetical actions relate to Luke.

It's weird. If Luke isn't an established character then this conversation doesn't happen... but he is, and here we are.
An established character who's responsible for the deaths of almost half a million people, if anything, Luke is much more likely to end Hitler than you would be.

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