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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Its pretty hilarious that some people want to slam my "appeal to the authority" of people like the highest military officer in the US, or the head of the CIA... but then they turn right around and quote Neil Tyson as a rebuttal.

If "appeals to authority" are good enough for them, they're good enough for me.

"For the government to continue to maintain that ufo's are nonexistent in the face of documents already released and other cogent evidence presented, is puerile and in a sense an insult to the American people".

"I have begun to feel that there is a tendency in 20th century science to forget that there will be a 21st century science, and indeed a 30th century science, from which vantage points of our knowledge of our universe may appear quite different than it does to us. We suffer perhaps, from a temporal provincialism, a form of arrogance that has always irritated posterity".

"Ridicule is not part of the scientific method and the public should not be taught that it is".

Those are three quotes from J. Allen Hynek, one of the leading scientists for Project Blue Book.

"I know other astronauts share my feelings, and we know that the government is sitting on hard evidence of ufo's". - Colonel Gordon Cooper.

"The phenomenon of ufo's does exist, and it must be treated seriously". - Mikhail Gorbachev

"Interstellar space flight is far beyond our present our present technical capabilities, but there seems to be no fundamental physical objections to preclude, from our own vantage point, the possibility of its development by other civilizations". - Carl Sagan

"I would do it (study ufo's), but before agreeing to do it, we must insist on full access to the disc recovered. For instance in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination". - J. Edgar Hoover

"Its time for the truth to be brought out... behind the scenes high ranking Air Force personnel are soberly concerned about the ufo's. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the ufo's are nonsense. I urge immediate congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about ufo's". Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, first director of the CIA 1947-1950

So again, no amount of disbelief can change their words... this is my last post here, dont know why I even bother, but theres plenty more where these came from for the enquiring minds who arent so sure they have it all figured out.

the quote of Neal's pretty much says he prolly shouldn't ever debate the subject of God.