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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

They've done it a number of times already, killing Robb's wife & kid, the way Lady Aryn dies, Barristan dying, etc. At this point it just comes across as cheap writing -- making these types of "shocking" changes for the sake of being shocking or for the sake of deviating from the books. In all of these instances, they're handled much more intelligently in the books (and no I'm not one of those book-purist twats, probably half of the total pages written by GRRM are worthless boring filler that needed to be thrown out). I mean I'm all for Sansa getting more of a meaningful role in the story/screen time but "hey, how about she GETS RAPED" is not what I had in mind

Obviously they want us to hate Ramsay but by know we already know he's a piece of shit human being and want him dead. We didn't need to see him rape Sansa to know that by now, it's been pretty obvious for a few seasons already. It's unnecessary and cheap.

Supposedly Peytr has no idea what type of person Ramsay is but I think that's shit. I think his obsession with Caetlyn/Sansa is a large part of what drives his motivations -- obviously not directly and he's long since moved on from that, but more of the idea that it was the first thing in his life that drove his ambitions and from that he became the man he is and therefore still holds deep reverence for Catelyn/Sansa because of that influence. I don't think he would ever have let this let this happen, but apparently he's much more selfish and one-dimensional on the show.

Lysa dies the same way in the books as she does in the show, no?