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Old 04-25-2015, 10:48 AM   #19
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Anyone catch the wing on his shoulder? It's a broken wing. Reference to killing Jason Todd after beating him senseless with a crowbar and blowing him up with his mother. Yes Joker was/is that ruthless.

That's how Leto's Joker strikes me.

The Joker that paralyzed Batgirl, the Joker that was represented in The Killing Joke, the Joker that beat Jason Todd to a bloody pulp and blew him up and his mother. It's THAT Joker I see.

But here is a good breakdown on the tattoo's and the meanings, references to the Joker.

"There is a lot of familiar Joker iconography in the tattoos. Let's break it down a little:
First of all, we have Joker/card-based tattoos. The four of a kind (presumably with a Joker for the fifth card) says "All in" beneath it. The skull-in-a-jester's cap is a popular image in pop culture and with tattoo artists based on a Google Image search, but I don't know of any particular story in which either played a big role for The Joker (although Batman does have that giant Joker card in his cave).
The "Damaged" forehead tattoo seems likely to be a wink and a nod to Charles Manson's face tattoos, given the "Joker's the craziest guy ever" vibe we're getting here and that's been present basically since The Dark Knight Returns popularized the idea of trying to psychoanalyze these characters.
The laughter is familiar enough; again, we get a bit of a callback to that same Bolland image. Beyond that, though, we have two different kinds of laughter scrawled in different tattoos, and the font/handwriting on them don't match what we see in the Bolland image. Rather, they evoke Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on a Serious Earth and Joker, the original graphic novel from Brian Azzarello and Lee Bermejo.
We also get two different mouths -- one on one of his forearms and the other on his un-gloved hand. It looks like they're different representations of Joker smiles over the years, witht he one on his forearm resembling the smile Jock gave the character during his time drawing Batman and the one on his hand being a little more ragged -- maybe like (again) the Bermejo image at right or even Heath Ledger's The Dark Knight joker. It seems as though this Joker will acknowledge the history and the ever-changing nature of the character a bit.
He's got a trio of unidentifiable tattoos -- one on his bicep, one on his right side wrapping around to his back and one across his belly. It looks to me as though the one on his belly might actually just be a stylized font that says "Joker," but I could easily be wrong there. It's hard to tell what thing on his arm is, other than that it looks like some kind of bird. Maybe the laughing fish, though? And the one on his back looks like at least two words and that what we can see is that the first word ends in "O'S" or "OS" -- I can't tell if that's an apostrophe or just shadow -- and the second word end in "LY." It's underlined hysterically, which makes me think maybe the second word is "only."
There's also a stray "J" on his face that reminds me a bit of a teardrop tattoo and some work around his eyes that makes his face look "cracked" and also makes me wonder whether the dark areas around his eyes are actually tattoos too.
http://comicbook.com/2015/04/25/jared-letos-joker-an-in-depth-look/"


The caps on his teeth strike me as something he'd get after the many times Batman has knocked his teeth out of his mouth (also present in the comics often) but in the comics you can always redraw him with teeth. In actuality it's not so much that way. He looks like a Joker that's been through as many wars with Batman as Batman has been through with him.

I think this Joker is the cold, calculating psychopath. Tattoo's don't make the Joker a prison thug as he's had tattoo's in the comics before and still remained The Joker, and it's been a lot worse in terms of tattoo's than what Leto has





So when it comes down to it, I see reference to the Joker from both The Killing Joke, Miller and Jim Lee, as well as the death of Jason Todd. If we're going to get that rolled into one it's gonna be a heck of a performance if Leto can pull it off. So I'm hoping he can. This Joker looks psychotic by every stretch of the word. Smart, but also psychotic.

Also....

here's your nightmare fuel

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