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Old 10-17-2014, 12:54 AM   #142
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
As for your "theory" of knowing what Dorsey wants, you're missing almost the entirety of the picture here.

Dorsey, doesn't run a Press Man defensive Scheme. He's got basically ZERO input as far as changing schemes from a press man hybrid 3-4 front playing 50% Nickle/Dime, than say, Playing solid Tampa 2.

Dorsey's job isn't to scheme, it isn't to call plays, its none of that. His job is to keep us under the cap with deals as team friendly as possible, while bringing in "THE BEST" talent we can possibly afford, all the while keeping a future eye on talent and delivering a list of names to Reid for him to put his input on, prior to the draft. Then its Dorsey's job to take this slimmed down list of guys, and put it next to his "BPA" list, and if the moment suits him, draft one or two of those guys, or trade up/down and wheel and deal.

He doesn't draft guys of a specific mold, indefinitely, thats not how good GM's work (Pioli). Good GM's, the truly magnificent kind, merely "assist" in the personnel management of talent discovery, and let their Coaches do most of the final evaluations prior to drafting, because its THEIR schemes that these players need to fit.

Flowers, in Green Bay, would have been a solid fit under Dorsey, or even now. Flowers here, however, was a very, very bad fit. Don't get me wrong, he could play it above average, but he's not suited for the scheme, and we let him go.

Simple shit like that amazes me with how many people overthink the "Dorsey" string pulling.
This is plenty of good information, but we're disagreeing on the fundamental issue, here. And I've got Reid's own words to back up my side.

Under normal circumstances, you'd be correct. But everything we've read and Reid himself has said says that Reid (a.) really wanted Alex Smith, and (b.) otherwise has completely divorced himself from personnel. He came to KC and got the GM he wanted so that Reid could totally commit himself to coaching. In other words, Dorsey has final say in personnel, and takes the personnel that he wants. The roster is full of Dorsey acquisitions, not Reid acquisitions.

That said, you're dead right that Dorsey's not the one determining scheme, but he gets to determine what kind of players he wants fleshing out the scheme. Sutton may vouch for Mike DeVito, and Dorsey may act on that, but Dorsey's the top of the personnel food chain.

But it ultimately sounds like we're agreeing. It ultimately sounds like we're both saying the Chiefs want certain types of players (big-bodied TEs that can block, tall, fast corners, players with phenomenal measurables) and we're just disagreeing who determines that these players become Chiefs. I say Dorsey's pulling the strings, you say Dorsey's mostly following orders. That's fine, but we're ultimately both agreeing that there are "types" that the Chiefs like.

And I'm willing to disagree with you on another point -- most GMs do have "types" of players that they like. The Giants have certain things they like in DL, Patriots in QBs, Steelers in LBs, and so on. That's pretty uncontroversial to say.
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