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Old 02-24-2014, 03:03 PM   #498
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4-3 players. The chiefs dont run that system. It sounds like you are advocating switching to that, and chiefs brass (dorsey) has recently gone on record stating that they are staying with the 3-4.
In today's NFL, the base 3-4 is becoming all but obselete. It's a passing league, your 5-techs are situational players, not your nickel and dime pass rusher. Tell me this, what defense did we mainly line up in against the Broncos?


I thought that is what Poe was supposed to be. He did get 4.5 sacks this yr from the NT position which is pretty good.

Sure, he flashed the ability at times, but he was hardly consistent. There were too many times when just 1 blocker was enough to stop him. When Poe was neutralized by 2 blockers, the other interior pass rusher couldn't ever win his 1 on 1 matchup. Hali and Houston would take wide lanes and get washed out of the play, there was almost always a pocket for the QB to step up into. I don't see how you could think that Donald wouldn't solve that problem. Plug him in and everyone's sack totals would increase.


that is not what I am advocating. I am advocating for a 3 down player. Hagemon can pass rush, defend the run, and block passing lanes.
Sure, he has the potential to do it. But he disappears far too often for me to consider with our only top 75 pick. Donald absolutely guarantees that you will get improved pass rush production from the interior. He doesn't win with just his speed, he uses strength and exceptional technique as well. His motor and work ethic is second to none whereas Hageman is average in his effort.

Hageman career numbers: 91 tackles, 24 TFL, 10 sacks, 2 FF, 10 PDF.

Donald in 2013: 59 tackles, 28.5 TFL, 11 sacks, 4 FF, 3 PDF.

That's one season vs Hageman's entire 4 year career.



doubt in a 3-4, or only as a situational pass rusher. Chiefs already have to many of those type players. They need someone who can play every down.

We don't have anything close to Donald. None of our backup DL players can even run close to what Donald was able to run. None of them have his combination of technique, power, and speed. If they did, you can bet that Sutton would actually play them. And again, we barely even line up in our supposed base 3-4.
Donald, just like Atkins, plays far bigger than his listed height/size.
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