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Direckshun 11-17-2012 01:48 PM

Our Potential For Economic Recovery Has Shrunk
So says the CBO.

Of course, that's a simplification of what the CBO has concluded, but not by much. The CBO has concluded that our recovery from the 2008-09 financial recession has been slow compared to past recoveries, for the most part because the potential for growth has slowed.

Compared to previous recoveries, we are sucking:


All told, between the end of the recession and the second quarter
of 2012, the cumulative rate of growth of real (inflationadjusted)
gross domestic product (GDP) was nearly
9 percentage points below the average for previous recoveries.
But only a third of it is for reasons unique to this recession (i.e. governmental policies, market uncertainty, businesses amping up productivity with less workers). Two thirds of it is because potential GDP has slowed:


Specifically, CBO estimates that about two-thirds of the
difference between the growth in real GDP in the current
recovery and the average for other recoveries can be
attributed to sluggish growth in potential GDP.
What is potential GDP?


Potential GDP is the measure of what the economy is capable of producing if almost all of the people who want jobs are able to get one and almost all its machines and buildings were humming at their potential.
According to the CBO, potential growth has been slowing since the late 60s:

What's causing it:


That slower growth of potential employment primarily
reflects three developments:

1. The most important is that, since about 1980,
demographic trends have slowed the
growth of the population that is working age and, therefore,
the growth of the potential labor force (the labor
force that exists at a labor force participation rate adjusted
for the effects of fluctuations in aggregate demand). In
several earlier recoveries, the baby boomers were entering
the labor force; now, they are beginning to retire.

2. Another important development is an end to the long-standing
increase in women’s participation in the labor force,
which had boosted the growth of the labor force in
recoveries before 2000.

3. Finally, the number of people
who would be unemployed if output was at its potential
level has risen in the current recovery. An unusually large
number of people have had their skills and connection to
the workforce erode because they have been out of work
for a long time. Some of those people will probably never
work again, and it will take more time than usual for the
rest to find suitable jobs.
America is truly in a different world now, economically.

The economy didn't just take a hit in 2008-09 in some vacuum, it was hampered in the midst of our demographic evolution. These were trends longstanding, and we were thrust right into the heart of them in a dehabilitating financial recession.

Here's the study:

Stewie 11-17-2012 01:56 PM

Do ya think?

The new test for the top 30 banks is the realization of 12% unemployment and a reduction in GDP 5%. The banks have less than two months to pass the solvency test.

petegz28 11-17-2012 02:33 PM

Wow, welcome to the last 3 years where everyone has been saying this is the slowest we have ever come out of a recession.

mlyonsd 11-17-2012 02:53 PM

No need to set the bar any lower. We already did that the last election.

HonestChieffan 11-17-2012 03:18 PM

If we reset the bar lower we can claim we are closer to full recovery than we thought!!!! Winning!!!!!!

mnchiefsguy 11-17-2012 07:30 PM

But I thought Obama had led the best recovery in the world?

A Salt Weapon 11-17-2012 07:45 PM

This is clearly the fault of the few republicans in congress during 08-10 while the dems had control of the house/senate/presidency.
Damn them and their un-fillibuster proof minority.
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ROYC75 11-17-2012 10:57 PM


@ a snails pace...................

stevieray 11-17-2012 11:11 PM

from the guy who has posted at least five threads telling us how great the recovery/economy is!

no wonder you hide behind the internet

ROYC75 11-17-2012 11:20 PM

His next State of the Union address will have a slogan of ....... PROGRESS @ .001 GDP.

HonestChieffan 11-18-2012 07:23 AM

Recovery is the last thing the administration is worried about. Its implement the agenda time. Get the pieces in place and march on. Should be interesting how the tone changes in February.

RaiderH8r 11-18-2012 08:13 AM

This is news to nobody who isn't a vagocentric knuckle dragger. The economy is shir but hey...ABORTION! Idiots.

HonestChieffan 11-18-2012 08:47 AM

When you take away the money from those who fuel a recovery what do you expect? When you remove the incentive to grow, what do you expect? When you reward lack of ambition, what do you expect? When the government who is a consumer takes money from producers you get more government and less production.

But when this is the objective we have no one to blame but those who enable the powers that be.

RNR 11-18-2012 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 9127739)
Recovery is the last thing the administration is worried about. Its implement the agenda time. Get the pieces in place and march on. Should be interesting how the tone changes in February.

That W Bush asshole just keeps screwing things up. Poor Obama doesn't have a chance. Question the answer to why gas was $1.80 before, is the economy was why am I paying $3.50 at the pump again?

Lex Luthor 11-18-2012 09:19 AM

Direckshun is now laying the groundwork so that a few years from now, despite the horrible economic times that will come, he'll be able to say that Obama is the bestest President EVER!

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