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Sorter 10-29-2012 10:29 AM

The Myth of Glenn Dorsey
 
I continually hear via radio and occasionally here that Dorsey would be better in a 1-gap scheme and/or a 4-3 base front.

This is a myth. On our sub packages, our two DTs (Poe and Bailey) play a 3-tech and a shaded 2-tech or 1-tech. People complaining that Dorsey just needs to be turned loose and enabled to attack the passer need to realize that if Dorsey was able to do those things, he would have been starting in our sub-package since he was drafted.

The fact is, Dorsey simply hasn't and won't meet the expectations that he received when drafted in the top 5. That isn't due to scheme or philosophies, IMO. If he was good enough to rush the passer from the several DT techniques that most 4-3 teams run, he would be starting on our sub packages and been productive.

This isn't shocking news to most but I thought it might be thread worthy because of the bitching I continually hear about Dorsey and how we might receive a pick for trading him.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-29-2012 10:42 AM

Nothing more then a Backup in the NFL.

The Franchise 10-29-2012 10:43 AM

****ing bust.

I'm pissed that I bought his jersey after we drafted him. He'll go into the box of shame alongside Larry Johnson's jersey.

Bowser 10-29-2012 10:44 AM

Atlanta wanted him pretty bad going into his second season. We should have held on to Gonzalez and traded Dorsey (and yes, I realize Tony was the one that asked for the trade).

gblowfish 10-29-2012 10:44 AM

The thing that kills me about our D-line is how much we rotate them. We have three extremely high draft picks in Poe, Dorsey and Jackson, and (when healthy) those guys are only in for about 50% of the snaps. I understand rotating players in to keep players fresh, but come on, man. These guys were drafted to make a difference. We could get the same production from third-fourth-fifth round picks.

The Mayor 10-29-2012 10:44 AM

Why would anyone on the radio even mention this blah waste of a pick. He is so invisible I don't know how anyone ever thinks of him.

Deberg_1990 10-29-2012 10:45 AM

We should have lost 1 more game in 2007 and drafted Ryan ahead of Atlanta

BlackHelicopters 10-29-2012 10:45 AM

Dorsey is still on the roster?

Sorter 10-29-2012 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mayor (Post 9062276)
Why would anyone on the radio even mention this blah waste of a pick. He is so invisible I don't know how anyone ever thinks of him.

Same people who think Cassel "just needs more time".

Skyy God 10-29-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9062278)
We should have lost 1 more game in 2007 and drafted Ryan ahead of Atlanta

Or traded up with StL. It's not like we used our 2009 1st on a productive player.

TheGuardian 10-29-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9062189)
I continually hear via radio and occasionally here that Dorsey would be better in a 1-gap scheme and/or a 4-3 base front.

This is a myth. On our sub packages, our two DTs (Poe and Bailey) play a 3-tech and a shaded 2-tech or 1-tech. People complaining that Dorsey just needs to be turned loose and enabled to attack the passer need to realize that if Dorsey was able to do those things, he would have been starting in our sub-package since he was drafted.

The fact is, Dorsey simply hasn't and won't meet the expectations that he received when drafted in the top 5. That isn't due to scheme or philosophies, IMO. If he was good enough to rush the passer from the several DT techniques that most 4-3 teams run, he would be starting on our sub packages and been productive.

This isn't shocking news to most but I thought it might be thread worthy because of the bitching I continually hear about Dorsey and how we might receive a pick for trading him.

I've said this all along and dumbasses kept arguing and talking about his college years.

He has never been a Warren Sapp type. Ever. His pass rush is non existent and was never really there. People write the shit they do because they don't REALLY know how to watch football and just parrot the shit writers say.

The Franchise 10-29-2012 10:49 AM

Well that didn't take very long.

Woodchuck 10-29-2012 10:50 AM

Who in the hell cares about Glen Dorsey right now?

L.A. Chieffan 10-29-2012 10:53 AM

He sux but Tyson Jackson is still more of a bust

Sorter 10-29-2012 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9062318)
He sux but Tyson Jackson is still more of a bust

This I'm not sure about. Draft spot, yes. In terms of hype and expectations, no.


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