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kaplin42 12-31-2013 02:19 PM

Something that might help people having issues with Win 8.

Go to the Metro, then the App Store and look for Windows 8 Cheat Keys. It's a free app and might help you navigate/understand the OS a little more.

I think the biggest problem why people don't like Win 8 is that it is new and different from previous versions, not just in look in feel like XP was to 2000 and Vista/7 to XP, but it functions differently under the hood too. Because of this change, and little to no instructions from Microsoft, there is a huge perception that the OS is terrible, when in reality it's really stable, and faster than Win 7, one just has to learn how to use it properly.

kaplin42 12-31-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10324474)
Wow, thanks. This is really stupid.

Also, if using a tablet, stroke from left side of the screen to center, that will cycle programs as well. If you drag your finger in from the left and then go back , you will get a snap window with all of your open programs on the left hand side that you can just tap to switch to.

Donger 12-31-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 10324483)
Also, if using a tablet, stroke from left side of the screen to center, that will cycle programs as well. If you drag your finger in from the left and then go back , you will get a snap window with all of your open programs on the left hand side that you can just tap to switch to.

It's running on a desktop. I did find out that if you grab the top of that program and pull it down to the bottom, it closes.

Hate it. Hate. Hate.

DaFace 12-31-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 10324335)
Be at Metro
Type program name Word
Push Enter
????
Profit

Again, having to use both the keyboard and mouse is inefficient. Also, you guys realize that the instant search for programs is there in the old start menu, right?

loochy 12-31-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 10324479)
Something that might help people having issues with Win 8.

Go to the Metro, then the App Store and look for Windows 8 Cheat Keys. It's a free app and might help you navigate/understand the OS a little more.

I think the biggest problem why people don't like Win 8 is that it is new and different from previous versions, not just in look in feel like XP was to 2000 and Vista/7 to XP, but it functions differently under the hood too. Because of this change, and little to no instructions from Microsoft, there is a huge perception that the OS is terrible, when in reality it's really stable, and faster than Win 7, one just has to learn how to use it properly.

Dos is fast and stable. One just has to learn how to use it

BWillie 12-31-2013 06:01 PM

No idea why Windows 8 gets the shit it does. It's adaptable, easy to use, efficient, .. I mean a completely moron can figure out how to use it. Same goes for Apple's GUI and what not, but I just like Windows 8 much better. I can work, I can play, can use it as a tablet or a desktop PC. What is not to like? Ohh right, it's Windows. It's not cool and hip.

DaFace 12-31-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10324928)
No idea why Windows 8 gets the shit it does. It's adaptable, easy to use, efficient, .. I mean a completely moron can figure out how to use it. Same goes for Apple's GUI and what not, but I just like Windows 8 much better. I can work, I can play, can use it as a tablet or a desktop PC. What is not to like? Ohh right, it's Windows. It's not cool and hip.

That has zero to do with it. I've been a Windows fan (relative to Mac) for years.

I've got no complaints about it as a tablet OS. The problem is, it sucks as a desktop OS.

007 12-31-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10324936)
That has zero to do with it. I've been a Windows fan (relative to Mac) for years.

I've got no complaints about it as a tablet OS. The problem is, it sucks as a desktop OS.

That is exactly how I feel about it. All they had to do was keep the start button as an option for the desktop and nobody would be complaining at all. AS a tablet OS it works very well.

-King- 12-31-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10323605)
Your method requires you to click on a poor replacement for the old Start button in order to bring up a tiled list of programs where each tile takes up WAY too much screen space and the list is randomly organized. You are forced to either swipe the screen (potentially several times) in order to find what you want, or you are forced to invoke the search function, bring up the virtual keyboard, and begin typing the first couple of letters of the name of the program you want.

Click all apps at the bottom and they will be in alphabetical order. Or shit...ARRANGE THE APPS YOURSELF!

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The Windows Start menu has all of your apps organized in alphabetical order, gives you the option to pin commonly used apps to a prominent position at the top, provides you with an easy way to find links to things such as the Control Panel, Printers, your documents, pictures, music, and a Help panel. Plus, it's a scrollable list that takes up less than a third of your screen real estate. The Metro interface was simply a lame attempt by Microsoft to make their interface mimic the interface used by the iPhone and iPad.
Everything you said you could do with the start menu, you can also do on metro.

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If you truly believe your method of finding an app is better and more efficient that the Start Menu that was introduced in Windows 95 and has been tweaked and improved in every iteration of Windows prior to Windows 8, then I'm not going to waste my time debating this issue with you. It's utterly hopeless and will just wind up frustrating me and everybody else who reads this thread.
Once again, you haven't explained how it's less efficient. It's way faster since you don't have to wade through menus. And if you do want to wade through them, you can put them into alphabetical order or in any order you want.

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The fact is that the vast majority of Windows users agree with me and disagree with you. That's why Microsoft is going to restore the actual Start menu in Windows 8.2. If you prefer to use your method, more power to you. Just don't continue to plead ignorance.
That's because people hate drastic change. Do I love Windows 8? No. But the start menu is the least of my concerns concerning it.

If you're too lazy to type the first two letters of an app to find it, that's on you, but don't say it's less efficient when it's not.

-King- 12-31-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10324840)
Again, having to use both the keyboard and mouse is inefficient. Also, you guys realize that the instant search for programs is there in the old start menu, right?

But you don't have to use both keyboard or mouse either. You can put the apps in alphabetical order or make up your own order if you want.

007 12-31-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10325340)
But you don't have to use both keyboard or mouse either. You can put the apps in alphabetical order or make up your own order if you want.

you do it your way we'll do it ours. JFC

DaFace 12-31-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10325350)
you do it your way we'll do it ours. JFC

Yeah, I really don't get the mentality here. CLEARLY, the majority of people think this system sucks, so what's the point in trying to convince us that it doesn't as if it's just a small minority who doesn't like it?

-King- 12-31-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10325355)
Yeah, I really don't get the mentality here. CLEARLY, the majority of people think this system sucks, so what's the point in trying to convince us that it doesn't as if it's just a small minority who doesn't like it?

You're entitled to your opinion. But when you say one method is better than the other because of X, but it turns out you can do X on the other method, why shouldn't I point that out?

007 12-31-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10325385)
You're entitled to your opinion. But when you say one method is better than the other because of X, but it turns out you can do X on the other method, why shouldn't I point that out?

your opinion is a matter of opinion as well.

DaFace 12-31-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10325385)
You're entitled to your opinion. But when you say one method is better than the other because of X, but it turns out you can do X on the other method, why shouldn't I point that out?

You're more than welcome to point it out, but you keep acting like the system is somehow IMPROVED because of all the changes. Most of us don't feel that way at all, and even Microsoft has acknowledged that it doesn't work that well. If you like it, fine, but don't act like we're all stupid for not liking it.


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