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Setsuna 04-28-2013 09:53 PM

***OFFICIAL TYLER BRAY QBOTF HOPE THREAD***
 
For all things Tyler Bray since he's already signed. Place to discuss his chances of success, his inevitable success, and his future elite status.

Pros:
Height
Weight
Cannon Arm
Can't Trick Shot
Not a Hippie

Cons:
Maturity (correctable)
Motivation (correctable)
Overconfidence (debatable con)

Final Verdict:
He's Today's Brett Favre at age 21.

Today's Brett Favre as in all his talent and Favre's personality. Favre knows he's accomplished great things and has every reason to be cocky and immature and take pictures of his dong and send them to babes. Except Bray has accomplished nothing and needs to be taught.

Let's Discuss!

Rookie Practice Day 1 Photos:
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Rookie Practice Day 2 Photos:
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Canofbier 04-28-2013 09:54 PM

A man can dream...

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 09:55 PM

In! Been in for awhile now. Love this signing.

Buehler445 04-28-2013 09:56 PM

We can only hope.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:56 PM

The fact that we have this speaks volumes to QB situations in KC. But, hopefully it works out.

In58men 04-28-2013 09:56 PM

I would seriously take him over Matt Scott and Landry Jones.


I mean yeah he's that good. In all seriousness I like this kid and he has tons of potential. He'll have a tough road ahead of him.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642893)
I would seriously take him over Matt Scott and Landry Jones.


I mean yeah he's that good. In all seriousness I like this kid and he has tons of potential. He'll have a tough road ahead of him.

Would have been intriguing to see how he did if he went back for his Senior year.

penbrook 04-28-2013 09:59 PM

We still wont have a qb that we drafted to win us a game.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642903)
We still wont have a qb that we drafted to win us a game.

I could care less. Bray's gona be the shit. And we will have given him his chance.

evolve27 04-28-2013 10:01 PM

Like the signing. I believe he will be a starter for us some day. The next coming of Peyton!!

penbrook 04-28-2013 10:01 PM

I do think Bray has the most potential in this qb class.

Has all the physical tools but just lacks mentality. Always wants to throw deep.

Setsuna 04-28-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642914)
I do think Bray has the most potential in this qb class.

Has all the physical tools but just lacks mentality. Always wants to throw deep.

Herp derp not in the redzone. Go troll somewhere else Hootie lite.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 10:06 PM

Will be nice seeing him eventually throw a deep strike to Bowe for a TD

DaFace 04-28-2013 10:06 PM

Nothing like giving rival fans "Chiefs offseason superbowl" material for years.

Shaid 04-28-2013 10:11 PM

Yes, I do have hope. It feels like just being a homer since the guy's an UDFA but I still love that we signed him. Fix him Andy!

Planetman 04-28-2013 10:11 PM

Million dollar arm. Ten cent head. Don't match. Correctable? Sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop for repairs.

Bump 04-28-2013 10:15 PM

I have more hope for Chase Daniel honeslty. I saw him throw a pass once for New Orleans, it wasn't bad.

Planetman 04-28-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Bray's accuracy was scattershot and his pocket presence suspect at Tennessee, but maturity issues apparently kept him from being drafted. Bray reportedly turned off NFL teams with his inability to correctly identify plays on the whiteboard during the interview process.
Yeah, this could be a problem.

RealSNR 04-28-2013 10:18 PM

So are you a Chiefs fan yet?

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 9642956)
Yeah, this could be a problem.

Meh, I watched Barkley and Geno **** up in Mooch's interview.

AussieChiefsFan 04-28-2013 10:19 PM

I too love the signing. Low risk with potential for high reward!

CrazyPhuD 04-28-2013 10:21 PM

I just wonder who's he's going to txt dick pics to first.

Dave Lane 04-28-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9642906)
I could care less. Bray's gona be the shit. And we will have given him his chance.

Wanna bet?

xztop123 04-28-2013 10:23 PM

I'd root for the devil so long as he could be our QBOTF!!!!!111

Setsuna 04-28-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9642928)
Nothing like giving rival fans "Chiefs offseason superbowl" material for years.

Ummm I'm a Chief brother. Or I don't understand your statement.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2013 10:52 PM

He's the only true prospect we have. He may not have been drafted, but at least we didnt ****ing trade for him or pick him up as someone elses ****ing trash. I hope he rapes goddamned faces.
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Tribal Warfare 04-28-2013 10:54 PM

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Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9643017)
He's the only true prospect we have. He may not have been drafted, but at least we didnt ****ing trade for him or pick him up as someone elses ****ing trash. I hope he rapes goddamned faces.
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Ya I'm sure Rams fans could give a shit that they didn't draft Warner.

Simply Red 04-28-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9643017)
I hope he rapes goddamned faces.
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See - I tend to agree here.

mcaj22 04-28-2013 10:56 PM

this guy at the most important position is truly something to cheer for

he is young and he has an arm that is far better than Alex Smith or Chase Daniel. And who the hell wants to cheer for either of those turds, you'd have to be insane.

if this is closet thing we can get to "drafting our own" QB then Ill take it while these other veteran turds stink up the join for a couple years

trying to follow the knock on him, red flags, or why he is currently in the position hes in is truly an interesting follow.

he obviously should not have been a UDFA, but you know, neither should Arian Foster

Mecca 04-28-2013 10:57 PM

Best case scenario, we stole Jay Cutler.
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Tribal Warfare 04-28-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9643027)
Best case scenario, we stole Marino.
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FYP

Simply Red 04-28-2013 11:05 PM

I will say this - he unloads the ball quickly.

Simply Red 04-28-2013 11:08 PM

I won't entirely accept him until he gets a fisty tattoo over that obnoxious tattoo w/ his name etched onto his skin.

Chiefaholic 04-28-2013 11:08 PM

Bray's Cons are certainly more than maturity, motivation, and overconfidence. His biggest weakness is foot placement. This is VERY coachable and can refine his greatest weakness. He doesn't always step into his passes and tends to throw with his feet square and across his body (leading to poor throws and interceptions). I don't see maturity as a big issue, nor do I see motivation given a reality check in the draft. At this time, my opinion is overconfidence on the deep ball (this isn't college ball), foot placement, and checking down to the short to intermediate routes for the higher passing percentage.

Simply Red 04-28-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9642958)
So are you a Chiefs fan yet?


Yes.

Setsuna 04-28-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9643027)
Current scenario, we stole Brett Favre.
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FYP

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9643025)
this guy at the most important position is truly something to cheer for

he is young and he has an arm that is far better than Alex Smith or Chase Daniel. And who the hell wants to cheer for either of those turds, you'd have to be insane.

if this is closet thing we can get to "drafting our own" QB then Ill take it while these other veteran turds stink up the join for a couple years

trying to follow the knock on him, red flags, or why he is currently in the position hes in is truly an interesting follow.

he obviously should not have been a UDFA, but you know, neither should Arian Foster

This. Though I would probably cheer for Chase, being a Mizzou homer. And it also means Axl went down and I hate his ****ing guts, so there's that.
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Setsuna 04-28-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9643043)
Bray's Cons are certainly more than maturity, motivation, and overconfidence. His biggest weakness is foot placement. This is VERY coachable and can refine his greatest weakness. He doesn't always step into his passes and tends to throw with his feet square and across his body (leading to poor throws and interceptions). I don't see maturity as a big issue, nor do I see motivation given a reality check in the draft. At this time, my opinion is overconfidence on the deep ball (this isn't college ball), foot placement, and checking down to the short to intermediate routes for the higher passing percentage.

IMHO confidence is a huge part of being an NFL QB. If you don't think you can make the difficult throws you're Blaine Gabbert. I for one, think his confidence in himself is a Pro. Regardless if it's over.

Simply Red 04-28-2013 11:15 PM

I don't know what to think about all of this - so i'm just going to smoke this blunt and not worry about it. This draft wigged me out a little.

mcaj22 04-28-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9643043)
Bray's Cons are certainly more than maturity, motivation, and overconfidence. His biggest weakness is foot placement. This is VERY coachable and can refine his greatest weakness. He doesn't always step into his passes and tends to throw with his feet square and across his body (leading to poor throws and interceptions). I don't see maturity as a big issue, nor do I see motivation given a reality check in the draft. At this time, my opinion is overconfidence on the deep ball (this isn't college ball), foot placement, and checking down to the short to intermediate routes for the higher passing percentage.

coincidentally you just named everything wrong our current starting QB has been doing for almost a decade now also lol

T-post Tom 04-28-2013 11:21 PM

The new Gino Smith has arrived in KC. (ChiefsPlanet Illuminati)

Would love to see him evolve into KC's UNDRAFTED franchise QB. But I'm not sure it's possible as many here have pointed out that Andy Reid & John Dorsey are idiots. Should we expect idiots to manage Bray's evolution into a franchise QB? :p

Chiefaholic 04-28-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9643053)
IMHO confidence is a huge part of being an NFL QB. If you don't think you can make the difficult throws you're Blaine Gabbert. I for one, think his confidence in himself is a Pro. Regardless if it's over.

It's a con when your deep target is double teamed by the safety and CB. You don't have to force the ball through a very tight window unless it's the final seconds of a close game. Checking down to the 15 yard route still nets you a first down and keeps our defense off the field.

mcaj22 04-28-2013 11:23 PM

im pretty sure most the Geno ballwashers bashed every other QB in the draft especially Bray the last how many months, so it will be funny to watch them homers flip flop now

that Jags fan caught so much shit for liking Bray the last 6 months by Geno fans. And there were some on here that predicted the bizarro world of us A) not getting Geno and B) somehow ending up with Bray just to piss that Jags fan off, and here we are in real time lol

mcaj22 04-28-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9643064)
It's a con when your deep target is double teamed by the safety and CB. You don't have to force the ball through a very tight window unless it's the final seconds of a close game. Checking down to the 15 yard route still nets you a first down and keeps our defense off the field.

ill play devils advocate here

what is the true con? BOTH his WRs went in the FIRST AND SECOND round of the draft. So, with that said, is he forcing passes to these guys for the sake of forcing passes because of who they are? How many other QBs in this draft had two WRs taken that high. Probably Geno was the closest with Austin in the 1st and Bailey in the what? 3rd or 4th?

Those WRs were well sought out by scouts and NFL teams. So the question is, did those WRs put Bray in a productive position of good stats or did he, Bray, put those WRs on the map.

Setsuna 04-28-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9643054)
I don't know what to think about all of this - so i'm just going to smoke this blunt and not worry about it. This draft wigged me out a little.

Aren't you a chick?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9643065)
im pretty sure most the Geno ballwashers bashed every other QB in the draft especially Bray the last how many months, so it will be funny to watch them homers flip flop now

that Jags fan caught so much shit for liking Bray the last 6 months by Geno fans. And there were some on here that predicted the bizarro world of us A) not getting Geno and B) somehow ending up with Bray just to piss that Jags fan off, and here we are in real time lol

I have a name. Use it :harumph:

mcaj22 04-28-2013 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9643075)
Aren't you a chick?


I have a name. Use it :harumph:

to me, you are Jags fan #1 and Blackmon is Jags fan #2

since there are only two jags fans that exist in the entire world and for some odd reason, both happen to loiter on another teams forum

Dante84 04-28-2013 11:34 PM

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Setsuna 04-28-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9643076)
to me, you are Jags fan #1 and Blackmon is Jags fan #2

since there are only two jags fans that exist in the entire world and for some odd reason, both happen to loiter on another teams forum

I'm a Chief.

Mecca 04-28-2013 11:43 PM

With those receivers Patterson is really raw, his route running is terrible and he drops balls.Hunter wasn't the same player this year after the ACL and he lost Rogers who the numbers show was Brays favorite target.
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Cephalic Trauma 04-28-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9642888)
In setsuna! Been in for awhile now. Love this sphincter.

FYP

silver5liter 04-29-2013 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9643082)
With those receivers Patterson is really raw, his route running is terrible and he drops balls.Hunter wasn't the same player this year after the ACL and he lost Rogers who the numbers show was Brays favorite target.
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Hes receivers werent great but its hard to blame it on them. He will make a beautiful throw then have 6 that are just completely off. Im sure it has alot to do with his terrible mechanics. Always bugs me how he throws and kind of falls back with his motion. We will see if Reid can fix it.

Reid obviously wanted to try to fix him or else we wouldnt have out paid the dolphins to get him.

cdcox 04-29-2013 12:11 AM

I'm not optimistic at all. He didn't improve much at all in 3 yrs at Tennessee, which means he isn't very coachable. And this kid needs a ton of coaching. To top it off, he played in a very simple one read offense in college.

BlackHelicopters 04-29-2013 05:42 AM

Hope is a wonderful thing. Also, dangerous.

loochy 04-29-2013 05:58 AM

Are there any other UFA QBs of note that were at least sort of successful?

Mother****erJones 04-29-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9643065)
im pretty sure most the Geno ballwashers bashed every other QB in the draft especially Bray the last how many months, so it will be funny to watch them homers flip flop now

that Jags fan caught so much shit for liking Bray the last 6 months by Geno fans. And there were some on here that predicted the bizarro world of us A) not getting Geno and B) somehow ending up with Bray just to piss that Jags fan off, and here we are in real time lol

I didn't bash bray. I've liked this kid since his freshman year. We can coach and work on foot placement and the mechanics to get him ready. There's no pressure on him. Take his time and learn.

The Rick 04-29-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9643170)
Are there any other UFA QBs of note that were at least sort of successful?

Kurt Warner?

Mother****erJones 04-29-2013 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9643089)
I **** my mom

That's sick man

Mother****erJones 04-29-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9643095)
I'm not optimistic at all. He didn't improve much at all in 3 yrs at Tennessee, which means he isn't very coachable. And this kid needs a ton of coaching. To top it off, he played in a very simple one read offense in college.

He didn't improve because he didn't get the coaching. He went to Tennessee and lane kiffin left then they hired dooley

MahiMike 04-29-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9643076)
to me, you are Jags fan #1 and Blackmon is Jags fan #2

since there are only two jags fans that exist in the entire world and for some odd reason, both happen to loiter on another teams forum

um, I'm #3. Chiefs are my #1 team. Jags #2. I live here. I have to root for them. Except when they play the Chiefs.

How sad is that? I have twice as many chances to get to the SB and my teams just picked 1 and 2.:spock:

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2013 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9643170)
Are there any other UFA QBs of note that were at least sort of successful?

There's Tony Romo

Deberg_1990 04-29-2013 07:39 AM

Kid has alot of talent.....but sorry, im not gonna get too excited about an undrafted free agent.


Hes alot closer to Croyle, Stanzi territory than to Luck and RGIII territory.

Hootie 04-29-2013 07:41 AM

he's an UDFA

odds of him working out are slim and none

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2013 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9643285)
he's an UDFA

odds of him working out are slim and none

Yes, he is an UDFA, but I'd expect his potential to be higher than the average UDFA.

Deberg_1990 04-29-2013 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9643170)
Are there any other UFA QBs of note that were at least sort of successful?

Not to get anyone hopes up too much.....but these QBs would be undrafted free agents if they came out today. The draft used to be alot longer.



Brad Johnson 9th round
Bart Starr 17th round
Roger Stabaugh 10th round
Trent Green 8th

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9643300)
Not to get anyone hopes up too much.....but these QBs would be undrafted free agents if they came out today. The draft used to be alot longer.



Brad Johnson 9th round
Bart Starr 17th round
Roger Stabaugh 10th round
Trent Green 8th

There also used to be fewer teams though.

the Talking Can 04-29-2013 07:51 AM

matt miller was just on 810, said teams interviewed UT coaches and players and no one liked Bray...

i'm glad we grabbed him, but the most realistic hope is that we can polish this turd and trick someone into giving us draft picks...flipping a udfa for a 3rd/2nd (even 3 years later) would be a hue coup..

ILChief 04-29-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9643312)
matt miller was just on 810, said teams interviewed UT coaches and players and no one liked Bray...

i'm glad we grabbed him, but the most realistic hope is that we can polish this turd and trick someone into giving us draft picks...flipping a udfa for a 3rd/2nd (even 3 years later) would be a hue coup..

Well hopefully a clean slate and the humbling of not being drafted will allow motivate him to change

Strongside 04-29-2013 08:06 AM

And so the 'masturBraytion' begins.

the Talking Can 04-29-2013 08:09 AM

it is funny that there isn't a single thread about our #1 pick...literally no one - not even the true fans - actually give a shit about that pick


but the udfa QB is on his second mega thread...

Cmd'r&Chief 04-29-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9642967)
I just wonder who's he's going to txt dick pics to first.

Your mother

InChiefsHeaven 04-29-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

I feel I’m ready,’’ Bray said at the NFL scouting combine in February. “I’ve done a lot in college, didn’t win a lot of ball games, but I put up some pretty good numbers for the SEC and the SEC is a little bit under the NFL.

“A lot of the top guys in this draft are from the SEC, so I’ve been facing all those great draft prospects. I don’t feel it’s going to be a big jump to the NFL

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/28...#storylink=cpy
He sounds like a freakin' idiot. Hope they can get something out of him, apparently he's got some skills, but he is a real dumbass too.

Deberg_1990 04-29-2013 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9643337)
it is funny that there isn't a single thread about our #1 pick...literally no one - not even the true fans - actually give a shit about that pick


but the udfa QB is on his second mega thread...

Im going to start one now. : )

the Talking Can 04-29-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9643353)
Im going to start one now. : )

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duncan_idaho 04-29-2013 08:39 AM

The fact that an UDFA QB (who is a giant a-hole, extremely immature, and completely unliked by his teammates) can inspire such a thread sums up what it is to be a Chiefs fan more succinctly, clearly - and painfully - than any post ever could.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-29-2013 08:47 AM

The Future.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-29-2013 08:48 AM

I can see Kniles lined up in the backfield and sprinting deep. Bray unleashes a 60 yard bomb into his hands where he fumbles at the 5 yard line to end the SuperBowl

007 04-29-2013 08:49 AM

Just curious, has any undrafted rookie QB gone on to be a full time starter in the NFL?

Predarat 04-29-2013 08:49 AM

Kansas and Mizzou would be wise to legalize the green stuff, just for him. They could call it the Bray Ammendment.

007 04-29-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 9643343)
He sounds like a freakin' idiot. Hope they can get something out of him, apparently he's got some skills, but he is a real dumbass too.

Keep in mind, he said that over a month ago. not that it really makes a difference since it is a stupid statement to make. I'd be curious to see if he would make the same statement today being undrafted.


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