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Lzen 12-11-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198624)
I've pulled several triggers, just not towards someone. If someone is kicking my door in then. You have to react calmly. You can't just go bat shit with the trigger. A few friendly rounds, to try an scare the intruder will do. If you give him a warning or two and doesn't listen, then you pop him one. Keep shooting until the threat is gone. Meaning he's no longer walking towards you. He still could be standing, just not moving. The threat is gone. If he reaches for something then I would shoot until he drops. Basically killing him.

Sheesh, I think living in Kalifornia has warped your brain. :doh!:

Lzen 12-11-2012 10:46 AM

Bump,
That was kind of dangerous of you to call the cops. I mean, they could have been partners with a crystal meth cook or something and they could have just killed you.

Frazod 12-11-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198624)
I've pulled several triggers, just not towards someone. If someone is kicking my door in then. You have to react calmly. You can't just go bat shit with the trigger. A few friendly rounds, to try an scare the intruder will do. If you give him a warning or two and doesn't listen, then you pop him one. Keep shooting until the threat is gone. Meaning he's no longer walking towards you. He still could be standing, just not moving. The threat is gone. If he reaches for something then I would shoot until he drops. Basically killing him.

:spock:

So, let me get this straight. You plan to fire off a few "friendly" warning shots to scare off somebody banging on your door? Which part of your house do you plan to shoot up with these friendly rounds?

There's no such thing as a friendly round discharged in your house. Trust me on this.

Bump 12-11-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9198995)
Illegal and reported to MO Conservation Agents.


;)

I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations has passed on that lol. That had to be about 15 years ago and it was in south Kansas.

dirk digler 12-11-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9199608)
:spock:

So, let me get this straight. You plan to fire off a few "friendly" warning shots to scare off somebody banging on your door? Which part of your house do you plan to shoot up with these friendly rounds?

There's no such thing as a friendly round discharged in your house. Trust me on this.

Yep.


And for those that are discounting knives they are very good in close combat settings

Bump 12-11-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9199640)
Yep.


And for those that are discounting knives they are very good in close combat settings

I'm no skilled fighter, but I'd figure a knife is better than nothing. Of course there is always the possibility the other guy is a better fighter than me and could take the knife and stab me with it, lol. But I think I would rather have a knife than nothing.

kcfanXIII 12-11-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198512)
You can't kill somebody just because they kick your door in. You have to be in some sort of life or death situation.

false. you kick in my door, you are dead if you don't have a warrant. in missouri, i wouldn't serve a day in jail either.

Lzen 12-11-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 9199705)
false. you kick in my door, you are dead if you don't have a warrant. in missouri, i wouldn't serve a day in jail either.

Exactly! He said that as if someone kicking in your door isn't what a normal, rational person would consider a life or death situation. I'm pretty sure the courts would recognize that as such.

dirk digler 12-11-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9199667)
I'm no skilled fighter, but I'd figure a knife is better than nothing. Of course there is always the possibility the other guy is a better fighter than me and could take the knife and stab me with it, lol. But I think I would rather have a knife than nothing.

You are right. If you are defending yourself in your house you have the advantage and know all the good places to conceal yourself to make the strike.

If you are at the O.K. corral then you are screwed

Bump 12-11-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9199710)
You are right. If you are defending yourself in your house you have the advantage and know all the good places to conceal yourself to make the strike.

If you are at the O.K. corral then you are screwed

this actually would be a great house to bug in. 2 ways in here, the front door is a great choke point and I could easily block the back door and nobody could get up here.

Dayze 12-11-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9199608)
:spock:

So, let me get this straight. You plan to fire off a few "friendly" warning shots to scare off somebody banging on your door? Which part of your house do you plan to shoot up with these friendly rounds?

There's no such thing as a friendly round discharged in your house. Trust me on this.

the refridgerator, obviously.:D

Bump 12-11-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9199709)
Exactly! He said that as if someone kicking in your door isn't what a normal, rational person would consider a life or death situation. I'm pretty sure the courts would recognize that as such.

Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 278, Section 8(a): In the prosecution of a person who is an occupant of a dwelling charged with killing or injuring one who was unlawfully in said dwelling, it shall be a defense that the occupant was in his dwelling at the time of the offense and that he acted in the reasonable belief that the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily injury or death upon said occupant or upon another person lawfully in said dwelling, and that said occupant used reasonable means to defend himself or such other person lawfully in said dwelling. There shall be no duty on said occupant to retreat from such person unlawfully in said dwelling.

Please note:
If the criminal intruder is not threatening death or serious bodily injury, the occupant will not be covered by this law and could be charged with murder or manslaughter for using deadly force against said criminal. To be protected by this law an occupant that is prosecuted for using deadly force has the burden of producing a claim of self-defense. Once the occupant shows proof it will be upon the prosecution to prove otherwise.


so the way I understand that, the intruder would have to shoot first basically. If he actually kicked in the door and came in, I couldn't do shit until he charged me or shot at me.

R8RFAN 12-11-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9199795)
Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 278, Section 8(a): In the prosecution of a person who is an occupant of a dwelling charged with killing or injuring one who was unlawfully in said dwelling, it shall be a defense that the occupant was in his dwelling at the time of the offense and that he acted in the reasonable belief that the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily injury or death upon said occupant or upon another person lawfully in said dwelling, and that said occupant used reasonable means to defend himself or such other person lawfully in said dwelling. There shall be no duty on said occupant to retreat from such person unlawfully in said dwelling.

Please note:
If the criminal intruder is not threatening death or serious bodily injury, the occupant will not be covered by this law and could be charged with murder or manslaughter for using deadly force against said criminal. To be protected by this law an occupant that is prosecuted for using deadly force has the burden of producing a claim of self-defense. Once the occupant shows proof it will be upon the prosecution to prove otherwise.


so the way I understand that, the intruder would have to shoot first basically. If he actually kicked in the door and came in, I couldn't do shit until he charged me or shot at me.

You live in a moonbat state... Move

demonhero 12-11-2012 02:43 PM

Get a .45 for home defense, and I'd recommend the Judge as well . Now on to that you tube link that was posting in here. When are you taught to wildly swing the sword and hold breathing? You know how I know he is a civilian... single attack strikes.

Predarat 12-11-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9199795)
Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 278, Section 8(a): In the prosecution of a person who is an occupant of a dwelling charged with killing or injuring one who was unlawfully in said dwelling, it shall be a defense that the occupant was in his dwelling at the time of the offense and that he acted in the reasonable belief that the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily injury or death upon said occupant or upon another person lawfully in said dwelling, and that said occupant used reasonable means to defend himself or such other person lawfully in said dwelling. There shall be no duty on said occupant to retreat from such person unlawfully in said dwelling.

Please note:
If the criminal intruder is not threatening death or serious bodily injury, the occupant will not be covered by this law and could be charged with murder or manslaughter for using deadly force against said criminal. To be protected by this law an occupant that is prosecuted for using deadly force has the burden of producing a claim of self-defense. Once the occupant shows proof it will be upon the prosecution to prove otherwise.


so the way I understand that, the intruder would have to shoot first basically. If he actually kicked in the door and came in, I couldn't do shit until he charged me or shot at me.

What a ****ing horrible shit for brains law.


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