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loochy 09-17-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
PFF was first brought up by Hamas as a way to substantiate his opinion. "That is why he had a rating of -4.9." I simply called out PFF for the fraud that they are when it comes to their player rankings. Not to defend Fisher, but to bring to light to the morons who consider their rankings gospel how truly awful PFF is.

Cool.
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
I think his play has improved from last year

When you are in death valley you can only go up
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
and if he can continue to improve he could end up being a very good LT for KC.

He'd better improve a LOT.
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
Some of the gifs he absolutely looks bad and his play on these particular plays cannot be defended, but on a few of the gifs Clay's breakdown in slanted and disengenuous.

The slant makes it funnier.
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
For instance, on the second play where Fisher gets knocked to the ground and drags his man with him, Fisher was actually knocked over by his own player.

Meh, it's all a dumpster fire.

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
Fisher isn't the worst pick in Chiefs history and he isn't the next coming of Orlando Pace.

Time will tell

splatbass 09-17-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10922727)
7 weeks, mother****er. 7 weeks.



HAI GUYZ, ITZ 1986!

Another moron that thinks we should have taken a mediocre QB at 1.1? Where do you idiots come from?

Newflash: 32 teams had a chance to take Geno in the first round. 32 teams passed. 32 teams not only didn't think he was worth the 1.1, but they didn't think he was worth any spot in the first.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-17-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10922987)
Another moron that thinks we should have taken a mediocre QB at 1.1? Where do you idiots come from?

Newflash: 32 teams had a chance to take Geno in the first round. 32 teams passed. 32 teams not only didn't think he was worth the 1.1, but they didn't think he was worth any spot in the first.

"32 teams had the chance to take Tom Brady. 32 teams passed. Blah-blah-blah my Eric "anal" Fissure" etc.

splatbass 09-17-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10922993)
"32 teams had the chance to take Tom Brady. 32 teams passed. Blah-blah-blah my Eric "anal" Fissure" etc.

Geno Smith will never be Tom Brady. He is mediocre at best, and the morons here crying about the Chiefs having a mediocre QB are slurping the balls of the mediocre QB they wanted instead. Morons, all of you.

Molitoth 09-17-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10922987)
Another moron that thinks we should have taken a mediocre QB at 1.1? Where do you idiots come from?

Newflash: 32 teams had a chance to take Geno in the first round. 32 teams passed. 32 teams not only didn't think he was worth the 1.1, but they didn't think he was worth any spot in the first.

32 teams did not need a QB, because they had the balls to draft one in previous drafts.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-17-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10922997)
32 teams did not need a QB, because they had the balls to draft one in previous drafts.

:LOL:

splatbass 09-17-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10922997)
32 teams did not need a QB, because they had the balls to draft one in previous drafts.

Other teams did and still didn't take him. He is mediocre and will never be worthy of the worship you guys have for him. You guys are in love with the concept of taking a first round pick, and you don't even care who it is, we just need to take a first round QB. Stupid.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-17-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10923008)
Other teams did and still didn't take him. He is mediocre and will never be worthy of the worship you guys have for him. You guys are in love with the concept of taking a first round pick, and you don't even care who it is, we just need to take a first round QB. Stupid.

Let's continue wallowing in all of the fat, gooey, barbecuey goodness of trading for shit back ups! It works so well!

Three7s 09-17-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10922964)
PFF was first brought up by Hamas as a way to substantiate his opinion. "That is why he had a rating of -4.9." I simply called out PFF for the fraud that they are when it comes to their player rankings. Not to defend Fisher, but to bring to light to the morons who consider their rankings gospel how truly awful PFF is.

I have never said Fisher played a great game on Sunday. I think his play has improved from last year and if he can continue to improve he could end up being a very good LT for KC. Some of the gifs he absolutely looks bad and his play on these particular plays cannot be defended, but on a few of the gifs Clay's breakdown in slanted and disengenuous.

For instance, on the second play where Fisher gets knocked to the ground and drags his man with him, Fisher was actually knocked over by his own player.

As with most issues on this ****ed up board, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Fisher isn't the worst pick in Chiefs history and he isn't the next coming of Orlando Pace.

I know where you're coming from and I saw the same thing myself. I wouldn't say that was exactly what happened on that play, but he did stop his man from making the play.

Molitoth 09-17-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10923008)
Other teams did and still didn't take him. He is mediocre and will never be worthy of the worship you guys have for him. You guys are in love with the concept of taking a first round pick, and you don't even care who it is, we just need to take a first round QB. Stupid.

This conversation has been hashed out so many times and you still don't get it. Your hatred runs so strong for Geno, that you bring him up all of the time.
Go re-read any Geno Smith thread if you want to discuss Geno Smith. This thread is about Eric Fisher.

O.city 09-17-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10922996)
Geno Smith will never be Tom Brady. He is mediocre at best, and the morons here crying about the Chiefs having a mediocre QB are slurping the balls of the mediocre QB they wanted instead. Morons, all of you.

This is completely unknown at this point and is the sum of you projecting.

He may be mediocre at best. He may end up being worse than mediocre. He could continue to develop and become a really good QB for the next 10 plus years.

At this point, we don't know with any certainty what he will become. Thats why, speaking for myself only, I would have liked to have drafted him. He has a skillset that I think would have been really great for Andy Reid and company to continue to develop.

Alex Smith, right now, after how ever many eyars in the league, is the definition of mediocre (whether some want to see it or not, thats on them I guess). He's an average NFL QB. At best.

Considering it's been about 10 years since the CHiefs have had that under center, I understand why some Chiefs fans are ok with that. Hell, I was happy with last year and thought he was an ascending player or could still improve. We know he can play at a high enough level, but until he puts together a long span at that, I'm going to consider him to be what he has been over the last 3 plus years. An average, smart QB who wont beat you, but probably isn't good enough to compete at the highest level without having a mountain of talent around him. But, they've stabilized the QB position, which if I were guessing, was something they were told to do by management, seeing as both the HC and GM have a past history or doing it the right way.

Basically, for me, I'll take the 2nd year QB who has the upside to become (insert whatever here) over the 10th year vet who we are still hoping can improve into something he hasnt been over his career.

O.city 09-17-2014 09:28 AM

Fisher was taken because he has elite athleticism for a LT. However, he needed/needs to add strength in order to be able to let said athleticism take over.

We're in his second year in the league and because of injury or whatever it has been, we don't know what we've got in him.

ChiefsCountry 09-17-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10922987)
Another moron that thinks we should have taken a mediocre QB at 1.1? Where do you idiots come from?

Newflash: 32 teams had a chance to take Geno in the first round. 32 teams passed. 32 teams not only didn't think he was worth the 1.1, but they didn't think he was worth any spot in the first.

League offices thought he was worth a top 15 pick or they wouldn't have invited him to the green room for draft day.

Simply Red 09-17-2014 09:35 AM

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Sandy Vagina 09-17-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10923027)
Hell, I was happy with last year and thought he was an ascending player or could still improve. We know he can play at a high enough level, but until he puts together a long span at that

isn't good enough to compete at the highest level without having a mountain of talent around him.

He's not going to put together a long span of high level play with the current personnel talent and play-calling of what KC has available to him right now.

Forget about a "mountain of talent"... Until he is no longer standing in a 12 foot depression in the Earth.. he will continue to underwhelm.. yet still show clearly that he is at the bottom of the must-fix list.


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