Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062732)

I'm not doing it for the sake of rebellion. Nothing I said contradicted that notion. Some kids might say "I'm not going to stand for the pledge because I want to piss everybody off". That would be textbook rebellion. For me, it's more "let's get this crap over with so I can go back to getting through the morning". My intention in high school wasn't to piss off every double digit-IQ'ed jock. It was to mind my own business and quietly protest a 30 second tradition that I happen to respectfully disagree with.

I'd suggest you do a better job reading before typing up your often inept interpretation.

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062741)

I said the whole thing reeks of totalitarianism. That's not why I refuse to stand and recite. Christ, are you thick? I said twice that it's a matter of principle. To get up and say "screw it, I'll go along to get along", would be extremely hypocritical.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11062748)

No, you refuse to stand and recite because you aren't a big fan of America. You already stated that.

Question: have you considered renouncing your citizenship? That is a right, by the way.

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062756)

Your reading comprehension still blows for quarters. I pay my taxes and vote when given the opportunity. My citizenship shouldn't be defined by something so trivial. I think that America is fallible. It's too easy to love your country like a 4 year old loves his mommy. I prefer to love it constructively. Loving and appreciating something shouldn't always lead to pledging your allegiance to it. The whole contention just seems silly to me. The same goes for the national anthem, especially before sporting events.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11062763)

I didn't say that you should renounce your citizenship. I asked if you were aware that you can renounce your American citizenship and if you had considered it.

So, no, again my reading comprehension is fine.

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062769)

You brought up the contention by asking the question. I responded. You still have the reading comprehension skills of Jameis Winston.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11062789)

I understand you want to believe that, yes.

Are you proud to be an American?

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062795)

At times, yes.

If I would have been around for Truman's genocide during WWII, I probably would have taken your citizen renunciation question a little more seriously.

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11062798)

The national anthem is a perfect time to get up and run to the restroom before a game starts. While everyone else is standing around singing or staring off into space, you can walk right into the restroom and get your business done.

The people behind the concession counters have to stand and do nothing during it as well, so you cannot buy a beer during the anthem, which seems un-American to me.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11062799)

I see. You are generally proud to be an American.

To which genocide by Truman during WWII are you referring?

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062808)

The murder of roughly 200,000 innocent Japanese citizens. 60-80,000 of which were killed instantly.

But Truman saved lives by doing so!!!1!

Bull ****ing shit.

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11062660)

If you think that has some form of effect on me, you are ludacris. Try sticking with the topic at hand Edward Murrow.

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11062584)

Actually, she was lip-synching. To her own pre-recorded voice, but what we heard wasn't live.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11062813)

You are referring to the decision to use nuclear weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki?