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Sorter 04-03-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9554767)
Can you explain to us what Geno and Akili have in common?



I'm not sure what this has to do with Forest Whitaker's malicious plot to make all QBs have slow eyes.

Sorter 04-03-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9554754)
It might be the beginning of a pandemic!

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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-03-2013 07:42 PM

Too many coincidences for that author not to be a close-minded scumbag.

Harsh scouting report of Newton: Understandable.
Harsh scouting report of Smith: Understandable
Ranks Barkley ahead of Smith after the previous two: getting peculiar.
Compares Smith to two other flameout QBs who are both black: WTF Flag is raised.

RealSNR 04-03-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9554931)
Too many coincidences for that author not to be a close-minded scumbag.

Harsh scouting report of Newton: Understandable.
Harsh scouting report of Smith: Understandable
Ranks Barkley ahead of Smith after the previous two: getting peculiar.
Compares Smith to two other flameout QBs who are both black: WTF Flag is raised.

He once said something nice about RGIII! That's just his opinion! /patteeu

RyFo18 04-03-2013 08:10 PM

So he goes from this after Geno Smith's pro day 3 weeks ago:

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After watching West Virginia's Pro Day, NFL Network's Mike Mayock believes QB Geno Smith is "absolutely" a top 10 talent.

It must have been an amazing workout, since Mayock said Smith's draft value was between picks 20 and 32 just last week. He said that the quarterback's footwork looked much better and the intermediate throws on inside and outside breaking routes couldn't have been better. However, Mayock has concerns about Smith taking too many sacks.
To now "I couldn't take him in the top 10." WTF? I like Mayock, but he's gotten worse ever since he started getting more gigs. It's clear he's not watching nearly as much tape. Remember, Mayock liked Gabbert more than Newton too.

ModSocks 04-03-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9554814)
He hasn't been proven to be disingenuous in his scouting reports. Please stop making things up.

Both Geno and Akili are about the same height. Both Geno and Akili were throwers not runners. Speaking of disingenuous, it's disingenuous for you to say that the only thing they had in common was a last name and skin color.

I get it. You don't like this guy's opinion of Geno Christ, but that doesn't make him a racist. No one should be surprised if he ends up being right about Geno and Barkley. He's been right about both Cam and RGIII so far.

Ok, so ripping someone's character when you've never met them is acceptable analysis to you? Nolan got ridiculed for it then, and he's being ridiculed for it now.

LMAO at the height comment. Wow......"hey they're the same height! Geno is on the road to bust city"

And it's a pretty far stretch to say he was right about RGII and Cam. He's was right about some stuff, wrong about others. Hell, he's right about some stuff on the Geno analysis imo. His harsh criticisms about his work ethic and character don't seem to jive. Basically declaring him a bust and a collegiate fraud before even stepping onto the field is insane.

And there you go with that embellishment shit again, acting like everyone is a blind Geno homer. Generalize some more please while you completely miss the reason why posters want Geno drafted.

Just Passin' By 04-03-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9555031)
Ok, so ripping someone's character when you've never met them is acceptable analysis to you? Nolan got ridiculed for it then, and he's being ridiculed for it now.

LMAO at the height comment. Wow......"hey they're the same height! Geno is on the road to bust city"

And it's a pretty far stretch to say he was right about RGII and Cam. He's was right about some stuff, wrong about others. Hell, he's right about some stuff on the Geno analysis imo. His harsh criticisms about his work ethic and character don't seem to jive. Basically declaring him a bust and a collegiate fraud before even stepping onto the field is insane.

And there you go with that embellishment shit again, acting like everyone is a blind Geno homer. Generalize some more please while you completely miss the reason why posters want Geno drafted.

McShay dealt with most of this today/last night, on NFL Live, when he pointed out that the reality is that these guys get a lot of the inside type stuff from trusted sources. Multiple people in the industry have defended Nawrocki as a man of integrity when it comes to this stuff, and multiple draft analysts have now publicly noted that they've heard many of the same things that Nawrocki noted, even as they distanced themselves from the "harsh" or "over the top" language. The man was show to be at least partly right on Newton, yet that's somehow being held against him, which is typical of people trying to discredit him, but also incredibly ****ing stupid.

Mecca 04-03-2013 08:31 PM

I'm pretty sure Pro Football weekly is the publication that some years ago had Brandon Browner going in the top 15 and he proceeded to go undrafted and play in the CFL before catching on in Seattle...

Just Passin' By 04-03-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9555079)
I'm pretty sure Pro Football weekly is the publication that some years ago had Brandon Browner going in the top 15 and he proceeded to go undrafted and play in the CFL before catching on in Seattle...

So what?

Mecca 04-03-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9555090)
So what?

That's not exactly a glowing endorsement for their knowledge. It's one thing to miss on mocks or have guys higher than they go but you should never ever have a guy who goes undrafted in your first round if you expect to be a respected publication.

Just Passin' By 04-03-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9555096)
That's not exactly a glowing endorsement for their knowledge. It's one thing to miss on mocks or have guys higher than they go but you should never ever have a guy who goes undrafted in your first round if you expect to be a respected publication.

Everybody misses, and everybody misses big. That includes teams, which is why great players are found at the bottom of drafts and as UDFAs, and guys like JaMarcus Russell go #1 overall.

Sorter 04-03-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9555096)
That's not exactly a glowing endorsement for their knowledge. It's one thing to miss on mocks or have guys higher than they go but you should never ever have a guy who goes undrafted in your first round if you expect to be a respected publication.

He did end up being an above average player, so there's that.

Ace Gunner 04-03-2013 08:57 PM

"Negatives: Has short arms and average grip strength (student manager was fired for deflating balls). Does not snap it quickly and spiral is not tight. Heavy-footed and cannot improvise or create with his feet. Cannot easily manipulate his arm and throwing platform under duress and the ball dies when he can’t step into it. Does not drive the ball down the field with high RPMs. Not quick-eyed — many throws are pre-determined at the line, and he will hold the ball too long on some progressions. Can be streaky (see Washington). Never beat Stanford’s pro-style defense in four years."


this part on barkley i get. barkley has slow hips too and that impedes lateral quickness and his ability to scramble out or step up in the pocket.

the rest is garbled mess.

durtyrute 04-03-2013 09:30 PM

Am I the only one that wants to take Geno, but knows that if we do take him we won't win a Superbowl with him because black Qb's, for whatever mystical-magical reason, don't win Superbowls? It doesn't matter who they are or how good, some how-some ****ing way, it doesn't happen.

Just Passin' By 04-03-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 9555238)
Am I the only one that wants to take Geno, but knows that if we do take him we won't win a Superbowl with him because black Qb's, for whatever mystical-magical reason, don't win Superbowls? It doesn't matter who they are or how good, some how-some ****ing way, it doesn't happen.

Doug Williams not only win a Super Bowl, he went to Disney World.


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