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DaneMcCloud 07-08-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12948406)
The most successful head coaches in NFL history won championships.

His career isn't over

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12948406)
The most successful head coaches in NFL history won championships.

And they also had Hall of Fame QB's

milkman 07-08-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12948417)
And they also had Hall of Fame QB's

It's a catch 22.

If you are something more than mediocre as a QB, you are nearly a shoe-in to get elected.

John Hadl was a better QB than Joe Namath, but Joe Wiilie is in while Hadl is on the outside looking in.

On the other hand Jon Gruden won a SB with Brad Johnson, and Brian Billick won one with Brad Dilfer, while Andy failed with a hell of a defense with one of the best DCs ever, and Donavan McNabb at QB, who is a damn sight better than either of those scrubs.

Joe Gibbs won with 3 different QBs, none of whom will ever sniff the Hall, and Tom Flores won with Jim Plunkett.

Andy Reid's failure to win has more to do with his inability to manage the game and the clock than who he had at QB.

Had he overcome his own shortcomings, McNabb is likely a HoFer.

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12948441)
It's a catch 22.

If you are something more than mediocre as a QB, you are nearly a shoe-in to get elected.

So Drew Bledsoe, Trent Green, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck, Ken O'Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins and Tony Romo are HOF candidates?

At this point in time, I'd have to disagree.

milkman 07-08-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12948452)
So Drew Bledsoe, Trent Green, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck, Ken O'Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins and Tony Romo are HOF candidates?

At this point in time, I'd have to disagree.

I am pretty sure you had to know I was talking about QBs that won SBs.

Eli Manning, however, is almost certainly a shoe in.

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12948455)
I am pretty sure you had to know I was talking about QBs that won SBs.

No. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12948455)
Eli Manning, however, is almost certainly a shoe in.

I agree but it's ironic that he is HOF bound, considering the Giants fan base has been wanting to replace him for years.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-08-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12948403)
Tool? You're a ****ing low life methhead moron that's been banned multiple time, renounced your "fandom", then decided to be a "fan" again this year.

That's a ****ing tool.



He's 11-12 postseason and coached in a Super Bowl. Why hasn't he won more frequently?

He's never had a Hall of Fame QB.

I would say that the crying bitch antics of a "leaving forever"-tool who then turns right around to come on back definitely puts you in a very special tool class.
I would also say that crying about Clay non-stop definitely elevates your toolness to the highest levels attainable at CP.
And then there's that pesky ****ing Quarterback whom you can't seem to decide rates franchise material one day, then mediocre FAIL-machine the next.

And if Reid's never had a HOF QB, he might be wise to let someone else do the picking( which he did, thank God )if the best he can come up with is Alex ****ing Smith to inaugurate his run as a Chief.

Later, tool box.

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12948517)
I would say that the crying bitch antics of a "leaving forever"-tool who then turns right around to come on back definitely puts you in a very special tool class.
I would also say that crying about Clay non-stop definitely elevates your toolness to the highest levels attainable at CP.
And then there's that pesky ****ing Quarterback whom you can't seem to decide rates franchise material one day, then mediocre FAIL-machine the next.

And if Reid's never had a HOF QB, he might be wise to let someone else do the picking( which he did, thank God )if the best he can come up with is Alex ****ing Smith to inaugurate his run as a Chief.

Later, tool box.

Go **** yourself, over and over and over and over.

No one gives a shit about you.

Black Bob 07-09-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12947359)
Andy Reid is FAR more important than any GM, including Dorsey

I agree. We aren't gonna have this kind of talent around again for a while - Dorsey or no Dorsey.


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