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Calcountry 02-16-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 5600570)
Chiefsplanet is way too lazy for this to work.

Yeah, I have a business and three households to run

kccrow 02-16-2024 02:22 PM

QB Patrick Mahomes II D1-10/17 (KC) - 4,183 YDS 27 TD 14 INT
QB Blaine Gabbert KC FA/23 - 185 YDS 0 TD 3 INT

I have MVPat... nuff said

RB Aaron Jones D5-180/17 (GB) - 889 YDS 3 TD
RB Tyler Allgeier D4-135/22 (ATL) - 876 YDS 5 TD
RB Eric Gray D5-166/23 (NYG) - 70 YDS 0 TD
RB Jerick McKinnon KC FA/23 - 252 YDS 5 TD

Solid season from the RBs here but Jones may be starting to show his age with the injuries this year and Allgeier was RB2.

TE Travis Kelce - 985 YDS 5 TD
TE Cade Otton D3-103/22 (TB) - 455 YDS 4 TD
TE Noah Gray D5-162/21 (KC) - 306 YDS 2 TD

Kelce gonna Kelce and the backups were solid but unspectacular. A bit disappointed that Otton didn't take off this year.

WR Donovan Peoples-Jones D5-177/20 (CLE) - 155 YDS 0 TD
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC FA/22 - 315 YDS 1 TD
WR Tyler Boyd D2-37/16 (CIN) - 678 YDS 2 TD
WR Gabriel Davis D4-125/20 (BUF) - 744 YDS 7 TD
WR Justyn Ross D7-251/22 (KC) - 53 YDS 0 TD
WR Richie James KC FA/23 - 114 YDS 0 TD
WR A.T. Perry D5-169/23 (NO) - 246 YDS 4 TD

My WR corps might be as bad as KCs. Davis remains a solid #2/deep threat though and Perry gave me signs of life late in the year.

LT Bernhard Raimann D2-62/22 (IND) - 15 GS 4 SA PFF 82.3
LG Joe Thuney KC FA/21 - 17 GS 2 SA PFF 74.9 PB AP1
OC Erik McCoy D2-48/19 (NO) - 17 GS 4 SA PFF 79.4 PB
RG Trey Smith D6-221/21 (KC) - 17 GS 2 SA PFF 72.2
RT Jawaan Taylor KC FA/23 - 17 GS 5 SA PFF 52.0
OT Carter Warren D3-100/23 (NYJ) - 5 GS 5 SA PFF 46.9
OT Donovan Smith KC FA/23 - 12 GS 2 SA PFF 55.4
OT Rasheed Walker D7-233/22 (GB) - 15 GS 6 SA PFF 66.4
OG Teven Jenkins D1-31/21 (CHI) - 11 GS 3 SA PFF 73.4
OC Bradley Bozeman D6-198/18 (CAR) - 17 GS 8 SA PFF 62.2

When Jawaan Taylor is easily your worst starter you're doing pretty good. Raimann has quietly become one of the top LTs in the game and he's still growing (PFF rated him 7th this year). Jenkins quietly had a nice season but still missed too many games. Rasheed Walker looks like he has a future in the league and Warren flashed in moments.

DL Justin Madubuike D2-64/20 (BAL) - 56 TKL 13.0 SK PB AP2
DL Mazi Smith D1-31/23 (DAL) - 13 TKL 1.0 SK
DL Zach Sieler D7-219/18 (MIA) - 63 TKL 10.0 SK
DL Dante Stills D6-209/23 (ARZ) - 47 TKL 3.5 SK
DL Desjuan Johnson D7-249/23 (LAR) - 9 TKL 2.0 SK

Madubuike and Sieler are an absolute wrecking crew. Everything else is gravy. Really encouraged by Dante Stills' rookie year.

ER Matt Judon D4-129/16 (NE) - 13 TKL 4.0 SK
ER George Karlaftis D1-30/22 (KC) - 47 TKL 10.5 SK
ER K.J. Henry D4-134/23 (WAS) - 19 TKL 1.5 SK
ER Ogbonnia Okoronkwo D5-159/18 (CLE) - 31 TKL 4.5 SK
ER Charles Omenihu KC FA/23 - 28 TKL 7.0 SK

Losing Judon early hurt but Karlaftis and Omenihu stepped up. Henry got some starts late and actually looked pretty good. He has a future.

LB Cole Holcomb D5-167/19 (PIT) - 54 TKL 0.0 SK 0 INT
LB Logan Wilson D2-63/20 (CIN) - 135 TKL 1.0 SK 4 INT
LB Drue Tranquill KC FA/23 - 78 TKL 4.5 SK 0 INT
LB Leo Chenal D3-94/22 (KC) - 65 TKL 3.0 SK 0 INT
LB Isaiah McDuffie D6-208/21 (GB) - 86 TKL 0.5 SK 0 INT

Holcomb went down again this year, disappointingly, but McDuffie stepped up. Wilson got snubbed from a PB. A damned good crew here. Hopefully, Tranquill can be retained.

CB L'Jarius Sneed D4-138/20 (KC) - 78 TKL 14 PD 2 INT
CB Paulson Adebo D2-63/21 (NO) - 76 TKL 18 PD 4 INT
CB Byron Murphy D1-29/19 (MIN) - 57 TKL 13 PD 3 INT
CB Kelee Ringo D3-95/23 (PHI) - 21 TKL 2 PD 1 INT
CB Christian Benford D5-173/22 (BUF) - 54 TKL 10 PD 2 INT

Lights out CB group here. Ringo turning in some solid snaps late gives me even more hope that it continues to be great.

DB Jessie Bates III D2-52/18 (ATL) - 132 TKL 11 PD 6 INT PB AP2
DB Justin Reid KC FA/22 - 95 TKL 7 PD 1 INT
DB Amani Hooker D4-116/19 (TEN) - 85 TKL 7 PD 1 INT
DB Anthony Johnson Jr. D6-217/23 (GB) - 24 TKL 3 PD 1 INT

The safety group is every bit as good as the CB group, highlighted by the best one in the game in Bates.

SK Harrison Butker KC FA/17 - 33/35 FGM 38/38 XP
SP Tommy Townsend KC FA/20 - 47.1 Y/P 41.9 N/P 20 IN20
LS James Winchester - 17 GP

Great special teams once again.

This team would have easily won a Super Bowl, no doubt. The defense is absolutely stacked.

WR is my only major hole, honestly. Probably need to address RB, backup QB, ER, and see if a RT falls.

Rain Man 02-16-2024 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 17405775)
Yeah, I have a business and three households to run

Say hi to your wives for me.

kccrow 02-16-2024 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17403710)
My top draft and free agent needs for next year are:

1. WR - I'm desperate.
2. DT - Or I can risk that one of the young guys will step up.
3. C - Whitehair is on his last legs.
4. CB - I'm going to have to find mid-round gold.

I can't begin to describe how many picks I've dumped into the offensive and defensive line. Played OLine for way too long and I still can't scout it reliably sans OC.

You need a CB, S, LB, RB? No problem...

Rain Man 02-17-2024 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17407088)
I can't begin to describe how many picks I've dumped into the offensive and defensive line. Played OLine for way too long and I still can't scout it reliably sans OC.

You need a CB, S, LB, RB? No problem...

I can't figure out if it's a pattern on my end or just randomness. I kind of think it's randomness about where I draft well or poorly.

Historically, I've done well on the OL and DTs and DBs, and for the entire 10+ years I've done this I've been terrible at DEs and LBs. But now I suddenly am stocking up on them and I can't draft a WR at all, despite putting notable draft capital into that position.

Of course, a lot of success is finding one or two guys. I drafted Russell Wilson back when the Chiefs had no QB, and I drafted Travis Kelce and Alvin Kamara, which set those positions up for a decade. Having a few successes like that let me dump draft capital into other positions for a long time, but of course with mixed success. And when you put high picks into a guy who doesn't work out, it's a disaster, more so than I realize just watching the real guys do it. A missed 1st and 2nd round pick will kill you, and misses aren't uncommon.

kccrow 02-19-2024 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17408370)
I can't figure out if it's a pattern on my end or just randomness. I kind of think it's randomness about where I draft well or poorly.

Historically, I've done well on the OL and DTs and DBs, and for the entire 10+ years I've done this I've been terrible at DEs and LBs. But now I suddenly am stocking up on them and I can't draft a WR at all, despite putting notable draft capital into that position.

Of course, a lot of success is finding one or two guys. I drafted Russell Wilson back when the Chiefs had no QB, and I drafted Travis Kelce and Alvin Kamara, which set those positions up for a decade. Having a few successes like that let me dump draft capital into other positions for a long time, but of course with mixed success. And when you put high picks into a guy who doesn't work out, it's a disaster, more so than I realize just watching the real guys do it. A missed 1st and 2nd round pick will kill you, and misses aren't uncommon.

I think a big thing is picking where we pick matters.

Finding a competent LT at the bottom of 1 or later was a 3-year exercise. Not easy and it took Raimann a couple of seasons to develop to boot. I chose not to trade for Orlando Brown Jr so I did it to myself and it proved to be harder than at first glance.

The other lesson I learned as recently as this past season was that taking DTs in round 1 is a pretty futile exercise. I've blown a few high picks on them now and it just isn't worth it. Take DTs in round 2 or later IMO.

Some positions I've found good players all over the draft like CB, S, and RB so I think you just pick the guy you like in the right spot when it presents itself and maybe not force anything there.

I haven't put much for resources into WR since I drafted Boyd 8 years ago in the high 2nd. Mostly 4th-7th round picks. Some have been fine like Gabe Davis. Others, not so much haha. Probably high time to start spending real resources there.

Rain Man 02-20-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17409379)
I think a big thing is picking where we pick matters.

Finding a competent LT at the bottom of 1 or later was a 3-year exercise. Not easy and it took Raimann a couple of seasons to develop to boot. I chose not to trade for Orlando Brown Jr so I did it to myself and it proved to be harder than at first glance.

The other lesson I learned as recently as this past season was that taking DTs in round 1 is a pretty futile exercise. I've blown a few high picks on them now and it just isn't worth it. Take DTs in round 2 or later IMO.

Some positions I've found good players all over the draft like CB, S, and RB so I think you just pick the guy you like in the right spot when it presents itself and maybe not force anything there.

I haven't put much for resources into WR since I drafted Boyd 8 years ago in the high 2nd. Mostly 4th-7th round picks. Some have been fine like Gabe Davis. Others, not so much haha. Probably high time to start spending real resources there.

I've found that as well. The Chiefs have seldom had a high pick in the 10+ years I've been doing this, and that makes some positions (QB and LT in particular) really hard to obtain. That's why I jumped on the Orlando Brown trade.

I'm going to be completely screwed when Russell Wilson retires, because that will mean that I'll have to find a franchise quarterback in the second round or later, and the Chiefs aren't going to be signing any big-name free agents at quarterback.

Kellerfox 04-10-2024 09:17 PM

About time to figure out what picks I have…

Rain Man 04-12-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 17477926)
About time to figure out what picks I have…

Cool. Can you show your work to help the rest of us out? I've been busy with other life things recently.

Kellerfox 04-12-2024 04:08 PM

How have we handled comp picks in years past? Do we get them? Get them if we had the assumed departingplayer on our roster?

Kellerfox 04-12-2024 04:23 PM

I think this is our framework this year, but always appreciate my math being checked.

KC baseline Draft picks:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-252

Lose:
6-208 if you traded with the Raiders for DT N. Ferrel last year

Trade:
Gain 7-221 and TEN’s 2025 3rd for 7-252 and Snead

Gain:
5-159 if you executed the draft day trade with Dallas in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #178 for Dallas’ #159 this year)

Lose:
5-167 if you executed the draft day trade with Minnesota in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #132 and this years 5th for #119 last year which turned into Chammari Conner)

Rain Man 04-12-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 17479937)
How have we handled comp picks in years past? Do we get them? Get them if we had the assumed departingplayer on our roster?

To keep it simple, we just assume that we get comp picks.

Kellerfox 04-12-2024 04:29 PM

I am trading Snead (I don’t really have a choice) so I think the Trash Pandas are looking at:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173
6-208
7-221

Rain Man 04-12-2024 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 17479949)
I think this is our framework this year, but always appreciate my math being checked.

KC baseline Draft picks:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-252

Lose:
6-208 if you traded with the Raiders for DT N. Ferrel last year

Trade:
Gain 7-221 and TEN’s 2025 3rd for 7-252 and Snead

Gain:
5-159 if you executed the draft day trade with Dallas in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #178 for Dallas’ #159 this year)

Lose:
5-167 if you executed the draft day trade with Minnesota in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #132 and this years 5th for #119 last year which turned into Chammari Conner)


Thanks for the work. So for me, it looks like...

I'll reject the trade for Neil Farrell, so I'll keep 6-208.

I don't have Sneed, so I'll keep the 7-252 pick and won't get the 7-221 pick.

I didn't have the #178 pick to trade last year, so I don't have the 5-159 pick this year.

I didn't make the Conner trade, so I keep the 5-167 pick.

So that means that my picks are:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-252

It looks like I'm making the baseline picks this year.

kccrow 04-13-2024 01:41 AM

I'll have the baseline picks pending whatever I decide to do with Sneed. I haven't made that decision just yet. I drafted him so I could keep him if I want to and he is my #1 CB with Adebo as the #2 and Murphy as the NB. I'd have Benford as a starter but that's a big drop from Sneed. I'm torn. I do like the press corners in this draft so I'm considering the pick next year as a positive.


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