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keg in kc 02-05-2015 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11312423)
other team need backups as well

:shrug:
We're paying him quite a bit more than backups generally make. If he's not the highest paid he's probably in the discussion.

OnTheWarpath15 02-05-2015 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11312423)
other team need backups as well

:shrug:
IIRC, Daniel is the 2nd highest paid backup in the league.

Hell, Daniel makes more than Ryan Tannehill, FFS.

The Franchise 02-05-2015 05:08 PM
Chase Daniel has the 2nd highest cap hit for backup QBs. He's only being beaten out by Matt Schaub.

The Franchise 02-05-2015 05:10 PM
Chase Daniel is #10 on our team in highest cap hit.

BossChief 02-05-2015 05:30 PM
Daniel is the 30th highest paid QB in the NFL in terms of average per year.

Alex Smith is the 10th highest.

TimBone 02-05-2015 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11312126)
The difference in signing Houston is the Bowe and Tamba contracts.
If we have to get rid of both then do it.

Ideally both will restructure and give us $10 million next year.
I'd rather them both agree to actual pay cuts than restructures. If not, both may have to go.

TimBone 02-05-2015 05:41 PM
What are folks thoughts of letting Houston play on the Franchise tag this year?

Does management do that and see if they get a better contract out of him if he has a down year next year?

chiefzilla1501 02-05-2015 05:46 PM
2015 cap matters. But not entirely.

We have a lot of space in 2016 and beyond. That gives us tons of flexibility to sign whoever we want to this year.

chiefzilla1501 02-05-2015 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11312474)
What are folks thoughts of letting Houston play on the Franchise tag this year?

Does management do that and see if they get a better contract out of him if he has a down year next year?
No. Sign him this year long term. Make the deal cap friendly in year 1. In fact, split his bonus into signing bonus and a year 2 or 3 roster bonus. It will make his year 1 cap number practically minimal. This is how they got Alex Smith to be so cheap in year 1.

BossChief 02-05-2015 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11312474)
What are folks thoughts of letting Houston play on the Franchise tag this year?

Does management do that and see if they get a better contract out of him if he has a down year next year?
**** that.

They better not piss the guy off.

The Franchise 02-05-2015 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11312484)
No. Sign him this year long term. Make the deal cap friendly in year 1. In fact, split his bonus into signing bonus and a year 2 or 3 roster bonus. It will make his year 1 cap number practically minimal. This is how they got Alex Smith to be so cheap in year 1.
This.

Mr. Laz 02-05-2015 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11312481)
2015 cap matters. But not entirely.

We have a lot of space in 2016 and beyond. That gives us tons of flexibility to sign whoever we want to this year.
You never stop.

You realize that all the signing we have to do this year is going to shred all that space in 2016. Unless we let high dollar guys walk.

TimBone 02-05-2015 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11312484)
No. Sign him this year long term. Make the deal cap friendly in year 1. In fact, split his bonus into signing bonus and a year 2 or 3 roster bonus. It will make his year 1 cap number practically minimal. This is how they got Alex Smith to be so cheap in year 1.
I'm down with that.
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11312486)
**** that.

They better not piss the guy off.
Yeah, I had that thought as well.

BossChief 02-05-2015 06:00 PM
1) Berry won't count against the cap at all in 2015 and didn't count against the cap after his diagnosis last year. His 8.357 will be fully available.

2) we have around 5m to rollover from 2014

3) if designated a June 1st cut, Bowe would save us 9.5 million in 2015...not just 5m.

TimBone 02-05-2015 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11312500)
1) Berry won't count against the cap at all in 2015 and didn't count against the cap after his diagnosis last year. His 8.357 will be fully available.

2) we have around 5m to rollover from 2014

3) if designated a June 1st cut, Bowe would save us 9.5 million in 2015...not just 5m.
Likely a stupid question, but here it goes. If we wait until June 1st to cut Bowe, whats the point in saving $4.5 extra in space? Free Agency is over by then.

Also, what is the date by which teams are required to officially be under the cap?


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