negative. "black" Friday is not an official holiday.

I bet half of them take it off and then go shop. Worthless and unappreciative.

We arent talking about the day after Thanksgiving.

A big sales day like that? I bet the store manager is there.

Working on Thanksgiving is a holiday.....whether you call it Black Friday or not.

He SHOULD be if they are telling the average joes they have to be.

I don't consider "holiday pay" on the same level as overtime pay. I a worker qualifies for holiday pay, they will receive that pay whether they work that day or not. You can't consider this as extra pay for that day because it is pay they would receive anyway. For the hours that the employee is actually working they are getting paid their normal wage.

IMO the only businesses that should be open on major holidays are the ones that are necessary for quality of life, i.e. hospitals, fire departments, police departments, etc. . . Nobody "needs" to shop at Wal-Mart, Target, or any other major retailer on Thanksgiving day. If all major retailers would come up with some sort of rule that they all stay closed on major holidays, their businesses wouldn't be affected negatively either. People would just have to wait an extra day to buy all the cheap products manufactured in China.

I can tell you have reading comprehension issues. I never said they were shocked or made any mention of her reaction, bud. I included it because I wanted to highlight that it was a forced issue. They have no say as to whether or not they'll have the day off. IN MY OPINION, that blows, BUT I continued on in my initial post saying that I understand it is somewhat expected at retail stores so it will be up to the employees to deal with their situation as they see fit.

How is this not an attempt to one up each other? Two years ago Wal-Mart opened at midnight, last year they opened at 10 PM and this year they're opening at 8 PM with Target following suit and opening at 9 PM.

Lots of people are really obsessed with projecting how they think private people and companies should act.

Oh you know they will make an appearance to stay in good with the district manager but I am sure any manager that is not a n00b won't be spending the whole shift there.

Hell we have to work the Wednesday night before thanksgiving and I have been hung out on a long run until 11 am on Thanksgiving day with no sleep and I have been working there 18 years...

Shit happens

I think wal mart should be widespread boycotted, anyways. Damn near everything there used to be made in the USA and that's what made it great, now they are just exploiting this country and making it borderline impossible to maintain small business.

Asa far as your holiday pay argument, I don't really agree with you. The economy is what it is and companies are doing what they can this year to maintain their workforces while staying profitable. Otherwise those people might not have those jobs to worry about next year. If a company is willing to pay you twice for working and is being reasonable with the timing of said request, STFU and go to work.

People better support the little guy (I do) because when all of the little guys are gone, wally world will set the prices where they want.

Soldiers are dying nearly everyday overseas so you slobs can stand in line at Best Buy at 3am to get $50 off that Sony HDTV and Skylanders for nephew Johnny. Merry Christmas!

If I worked there and the store manager himself wouldn't at least show up for a couple hours, neither would I.