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Mr_Tomahawk 02-10-2013 08:02 PM

*** OFFICIAL -SUNFLOWER SHOWDOWN- KSU vs. KU GAME THREAD***
 
...within 24 hours of tip. Let's do this.


Ceej 02-10-2013 08:06 PM

Should be a great game.

Mr. Laz 02-10-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392339)
Should be a great game.

gonna be one ugly ass game


low scoring dogfight

Mr_Tomahawk 02-10-2013 08:11 PM

I think this team is ready to get back on track in front of a loud crowd tomorrow.

Ceej 02-10-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9392346)
gonna be one ugly ass game


low scoring dogfight

I still think it's going to be a great game.

If the team can't get up for this game, man...we are in serious trouble.

Reerun_KC 02-10-2013 08:29 PM

Well I called OU by 5. Was off by one...

KU gets back on track, wins a dog shit fight by 7....

We are behind most of the game. FINALLY hit our FT's to close this one out...

Reerun_KC 02-10-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392353)
I still think it's going to be a great game.

If the team can't get up for this game, man...we are in serious trouble.

Couldnt get up for the OSU game... Didnt show up for the TCU historical beatdown... And was totally disinterested in Norman...


They better otherwise this that flushing sound you hear is this season swirling the drain...

Titty Meat 02-10-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392353)
I still think it's going to be a great game.

If the team can't get up for this game, man...we are in serious trouble.

Your projections have been off all year

Chiefs Pantalones 02-10-2013 08:34 PM

@JayhawkTalk: Self: "We need our FANS on Monday. We've had a great year and a crappy week."

The best fans in the nation better bring the house down tomorrow. It's time to get this thing back on track. I'm tired of being affiliated with the rest of college basketball with our slumping.

Ceej 02-10-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9392410)
Your projections have been off all year

Says the guy who said I said Doc Sadler was a great hire.

Your word is about as good as Nick Athan's.

Keep fighting the good fight, lil' fella.

Ceej 02-10-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9392399)
Couldnt get up for the OSU game... Didnt show up for the TCU historical beatdown... And was totally disinterested in Norman...


They better otherwise this that flushing sound you hear is this season swirling the drain...

This is true.

I am still holding, clinging onto a little bit of hope that tomorrow they'll rise up and show us something.

kstater 02-10-2013 08:39 PM

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Qogq3ys5M8M/S8.../070824_04.jpg

Mr. Laz 02-10-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392353)
I still think it's going to be a great game.

If the team can't get up for this game, man...we are in serious trouble.

getting up doesn't mean we will shoot better


KSU and KU both tend to struggle on offense


Free throws could be huge

Titty Meat 02-10-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392417)
Says the guy who said I said Doc Sadler was a great hire.

Your word is about as good as Nick Athan's.

Keep fighting the good fight, lil' fella.

So whats that have to do with your basketball takes? Oh yeah nothing. Another beaker blowhard.

Reerun_KC 02-10-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392427)
This is true.

I am still holding, clinging onto a little bit of hope that tomorrow they'll rise up and show us something.


A good showing Monday could get this team back on track... They need either a blow out or a close game winning shot to boost the confidence again...

Right now they couldnt beat a High School JV girls team....

Especially if it required boxing out or perimeter defense...

kstater 02-10-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 93924340)
KSU and KU both tend to struggle on offense


K-State is the most effecient offense in the league and 2nd best eFG% in the league.

Ceej 02-10-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9392434)
getting up doesn't mean we will shoot better


KSU and KU both tend to struggle on offense


Free throws could be huge

You need not to try and turn my cautiously optimistic post into something negative.

And I've never had an issue with your issues with the outside shooting, Self, team issues, etc.

By showing me something - I mean showing up on both sides of the ball and execute..and for EJ to get out of his funk.

Reerun_KC 02-10-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9392434)
getting up doesn't mean we will shoot better


KSU and KU both tend to struggle on offense


Free throws could be huge


Hope it doesnt come to free throws... The 08 Memphis team laughs at our free throw shooting...

WilliamTheIrish 02-10-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392417)
Says the guy who said I said Doc Sadler was a great hire.

Your word is about as good as Nick Athan's.

Keep fighting the good fight, lil' fella.

Haha! I could find many posts on this site from KU fans ready to sculpt a Doc Sadler statue because his teams "played close" in AFH.

"Just wait until he gets his players in there".

Those were memorable times my friends.

Ceej 02-10-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9392503)
Haha! I could find many posts on this site from KU fans ready to sculpt a Doc Sadler statue because his teams "played close" in AFH.

"Just wait until he gets his players in there".

Those were memorable times my friends.

I, sir, was never one of them.

Never called him a great hire, but don't think he was a terrible one either.

KC_Connection 02-10-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 9392442)
K-State is the most effecient offense in the league and 2nd best eFG% in the league.

KU's AdjO: 111.2
KSU's AdjO: 109.6

http://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjOE

A lot closer than it was a few weeks ago obviously, but KU's is still better.

KC_Connection 02-10-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9392503)
Haha! I could find many posts on this site from KU fans ready to sculpt a Doc Sadler statue because his teams "played close" in AFH.

"Just wait until he gets his players in there".

Those were memorable times my friends.

Doc was years ahead of the trend in understanding how to play and beat KU which most B12 coaches have adapted over the last two years (slow and with as few possessions as possible). He never got himself an upset because of lack of talent, but it certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. Perhaps if he was lucky enough to face this particular version of the team, he would have gotten himself his own TCU victory.

Prison Bitch 02-10-2013 09:51 PM

KSU offense is putrid every time they step on the court and see us wearing KANSAS jerseys

Fairplay 02-10-2013 09:52 PM

Let's do this.

BWillie 02-10-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9392450)
Hope it doesnt come to free throws... The 08 Memphis team laughs at our free throw shooting...

What are you talking about? This is the best free throw shooting team since the 08 squad abd the 2nd best KU has had since 2001.

Al Czervik 02-10-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9392417)
Says the guy who said I said Doc Sadler was a great hire.

Your word is about as good as Nick Athan's.

Keep fighting the good fight, lil' fella.

If you have a company website....Please disable feedback ASAP....
Billay is about to go Billay.....

Strongside 02-10-2013 10:35 PM

Everyone Manhattanite A Woman

Big Smoke 02-11-2013 03:16 AM

Let's do this. Beat the shit out of these purple panzies.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-11-2013 06:53 AM

Gonna be a long day at work...

Old Dog 02-11-2013 08:06 AM

I got in on K-State when the line opened at opened at 9....it's down to 8. I don't expect we will win, but I don't see a double digit win for KU either.
Of course the way my luck runs this will be the night they decide to wake back up.

kstater 02-11-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9392663)
KU's AdjO: 111.2
KSU's AdjO: 109.6

http://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjOE

A lot closer than it was a few weeks ago obviously, but KU's is still better.

I wasn't using his algorithm, K-State has the highest PPP.

KILLER_CLOWN 02-11-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 9393236)
I wasn't using his algorithm, K-State has the highest PPP.

How long until the grilling with Weber signs show up?

ChiTown 02-11-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9393231)
I got in on K-State when the line opened at opened at 9....it's down to 8. I don't expect we will win, but I don't see a double digit win for KU either.
Of course the way my luck runs this will be the night they decide to wake back up.

The line opened at ku -9?:hmmm:

Ceej 02-11-2013 08:37 AM

KSU by 76.

ChiTown 02-11-2013 08:59 AM

Just got a last minute invite to go to the game tonight! Wheels up from Jabara Airport at 6pm. PBJ

KILLER_CLOWN 02-11-2013 09:01 AM

Could Self hold a funeral for the team that played the last 3 games? It's worked before.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9392675)
Doc was years ahead of the trend in understanding how to play and beat KU which most B12 coaches have adapted over the last two years (slow and with as few possessions as possible). He never got himself an upset because of lack of talent, but it certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. Perhaps if he was lucky enough to face this particular version of the team, he would have gotten himself his own TCU victory.

I don't think Doc was ahead of any curve. He played it like Wooly played it. And Wooly had an AFH victory in 2005. But as soon as Doc got his "moral loss/victory" by playing them close he was hailed as a genius."He's a better coach than Rick Barnes". (That was also a great talking point)

Weber has also gotten a ton of the same credit that Doc got in those early seasons at NUbb. "He's got them competing" and Weber has them "running that motion offense" lauding him as some great coach.

Right now Weber has this team about where Frank would have it imo. The real question will be in the next two seasons when all these seniors are gone. I think Weber will be a huge failure because he recruits like shit. Just like Doc. Doc was great for one season at UTEP with Billy G's team. He parlayed that into a deal with NUbb. And fell flat on his face. Never finished better than .500 in league.

Doc Sadler was a poor coach and worse recruiter.

Old Dog 02-11-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9393262)
The line opened at ku -9?:hmmm:

Yep.
Opened at 9, dropped to 8, and is now back up to 8.5
Money line is currently +320 for KSU and -380 for KU

KC_Connection 02-11-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9393339)
I don't think Doc was ahead of any curve.

He knew how to get his shitty teams playing competitive games against vastly superior teams which is more you can say for most of the shitty teams in the B12 over the last decade.


Quote:

"He's a better coach than Rick Barnes". (That was also a great talking point)
I don't know about worse than Doc Sadler, but Rick Barnes has to be one of the most underachieving coaches in the game considering the major talent he's had to work with in Texas. And this year we're seeing what a Texas team coached by him is like without the same talent level as usual.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9393385)
He knew how to get his shitty teams playing competitive games against vastly superior teams which is more you can say for most of the shitty teams in the B12 over the last decade.


I don't know about worse than Doc Sadler, but Rick Barnes has to be one of the most underachieving coaches in the game considering the major talent he's had to work with in Texas. And this year we're seeing what a Texas team coached by him is like without the same talent level as usual.

If playing competetive games is your goal, then I guess I could agree. But McNeck at ISU played competetive games at ISU when he was there. And Bdzexcvelic at CU played several "competetive game" against teams when he was there.

Is Rick Barnes underachieving? He's a reached a FF. Been to the tournament every year. Recruited like crazy - which is part of the job - at a true "Football" first university and been successful. His teams have flamed out in the 2nd round, but that can be attributed to the nature of the tourney.

And this year, Barnes got his lower talent team to nearly sneak away a victory against Kansas, no? But he doesn't get the same talking point respect as Doc?

Saul Good 02-11-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9393419)
If playing competetive games is your goal, then I guess I could agree. But McNeck at ISU played competetive games at ISU when he was there. And Bdzexcvelic at CU played several "competetive game" against teams when he was there.

Is Rick Barnes underachieving? He's a reached a FF. Been to the tournament every year. Recruited like crazy - which is part of the job - at a true "Football" first university and been successful. His teams have flamed out in the 2nd round, but that can be attributed to the nature of the tourney.

And this year, Barnes got his lower talent team to nearly sneak away a victory against Kansas, no? But he doesn't get the same talking point respect as Doc?

Barnes won't be in the tournament this year.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9393510)
Barnes won't be in the tournament this year.

That's true. But was he competetive?

Titty Meat 02-11-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9392675)
Doc was years ahead of the trend in understanding how to play and beat KU which most B12 coaches have adapted over the last two years (slow and with as few possessions as possible). He never got himself an upset because of lack of talent, but it certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. Perhaps if he was lucky enough to face this particular version of the team, he would have gotten himself his own TCU victory.

Umm Doc Sadler never beat KU because of his conservative style and lacj of being and x and os guy.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-11-2013 01:13 PM

GREAT name for this series ROFL

Mr_Tomahawk 02-11-2013 01:15 PM

"CORNHUSKER"

Cool.

Saul Good 02-11-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9393573)
That's true. But was he competetive?

Not particularly. They are going to finish well under .500 on the season.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9393925)
Not particularly. They are going to finish well under .500 on the season.

Neither was Doc. He finished .500 one time. But if you're competetive in AFH, you become an idolized figure.

Titty Meat 02-11-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9393954)
Neither was Doc. He finished .500 one time. But if you're competetive in AFH, you become an idolized figure.

Tom Asbury couldn't even do that!

Saul Good 02-11-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9393954)
Neither was Doc. He finished .500 one time. But if you're competetive in AFH, you become an idolized figure.

I'm not defending Doc. He sucked out loud.

Ceej 02-11-2013 02:34 PM

O/U on Cherry Pie Face Spradling scoring 8.

teedubya 02-11-2013 02:43 PM

Eat a bag of dicks, KSTATE. #slumpbuster #dearGodplease

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9394105)
O/U on Cherry Pie Face Spradling scoring 8.

Hmmm.. He'll take 6 shots. Miss 5. Take a charge. But get 2 blocking fouls. Turn the ball over 3 times with zero assists. Grab 3 rebounds. Play like shit and the shirt tucking fan base will say he had a great line and we can't blame it on him.

His Dad will then criticize Frank Martin for killing his confidence after calling him a MF'ing pussy.

I'd hate hime a whole lot less if he shot 37% from 3. So therefore, I hate him.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9394124)
Eat a bag of dicks, KSTATE. #slumpbuster #dearGodplease

#THAT escalated quickly

Old Dog 02-11-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9394124)
Eat a bag of dicks, KSTATE. #slumpbuster #dearGodplease

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9394162)
#THAT escalated quickly

If KSU had been playing like the Beakers lately, you would be pretty pissy as well.

Ceej 02-11-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9394160)
Hmmm.. He'll take 6 shots. Miss 5. Take a charge. But get 2 blocking fouls. Turn the ball over 3 times with zero assists. Grab 3 rebounds. Play like shit and the shirt tucking fan base will say he had a great line and we can't blame it on him.

His Dad will then criticize Frank Martin for killing his confidence after calling him a MF'ing pussy.

I'd hate hime a whole lot less if he shot 37% from 3. So therefore, I hate him.

He usually plays alright against other teams, but plays relatively poorly against KU.

ChiTown 02-11-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9394198)
He usually plays alright against other teams, but plays relatively poorly against KU.

He is, what he is. A safe player that rarely gives you more than you would expect. I think his D is way overrated, and offensively, he was at his best when playing alongside Pullen. Not a huge fan, but we really don't have anyone who can replace him yet - I'm looking RIGHT AT YOU, Marcus Foster!

Ceej 02-11-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9394358)
He is, what he is. A safe player that rarely gives you more than you would expect. I think his D is way overrated, and offensively, he was at his best when playing alongside Pullen. Not a huge fan, but we really don't have anyone who can replace him yet - I'm looking RIGHT AT YOU, Marcus Foster!

I almost hate watching Spradling play as much as Elijah Johnson has lately.

That's saying a lot too.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-11-2013 04:22 PM

I miss the old Sprads that could take (and get) a charge like a champ.

lewdog 02-11-2013 04:26 PM

I am a Wildcat fan tonight!

Ceej 02-11-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9394389)
I am a Wildcat fan tonight!

Queerbait.

lewdog 02-11-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9394394)
Queerbait.

Good one dickfore.

Spott 02-11-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9394394)
Queerbait.

Queerbait compared to a gay chicken.

Ceej 02-11-2013 04:34 PM

Random MU/MSU thread bomb.

stonedstooge 02-11-2013 04:35 PM

Whitehead officiating tonight?

Kiimosabi 02-11-2013 04:40 PM

At least vs. Oklahoma KU looked to be turning the corner. I hope so.

ChiTown 02-11-2013 04:41 PM

Later Dudes.

I am off to enemy territory!

Cheers, and Go Cats!

Saulbadguy 02-11-2013 04:44 PM

Trap game.

Bambi 02-11-2013 05:44 PM

KU has lost 3 in a row and still an 8 point favorite. Damn...

Reerun_KC 02-11-2013 05:49 PM

I am sure we will hear all the excuses from the usual suspects if ksu loses.

teedubya 02-11-2013 05:51 PM

KU scored 13 points in the first half vs TCU... so who knows WTF is going to happen tonight? LOL.

kstater 02-11-2013 06:07 PM

Rather meaningless game. Win and Cats are in 1st. Lose and Cats are in 1st.

Ceej 02-11-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 9394670)
Rather meaningless game. Win and Cats
are in 1st. Lose and Cats are in 1st.

I hope the Wildcats feel the same way.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-11-2013 06:24 PM

One more of those "good losses" to prepare for March?

kstater 02-11-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9394695)
One more of those "good losses" to prepare for March?

No such thing as a good loss. But the scrimmage should be entertaining.

DeezNutz 02-11-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9394431)
Later Dudes.

I am off to enemy territory!

Cheers, and Go Cats!

Keep focused.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3P0mYtyN53...day400_558.jpg

Ceej 02-11-2013 06:32 PM

At least we are blessed to watch this exquisite matchup between Marquette and Georgetown beforehand.

WilliamTheIrish 02-11-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9394723)
At least we are blessed to watch this exquisite matchup between Marquette and Georgetown beforehand.

Don't be so anxious. Try not to storm the court tonight.

Ceej 02-11-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9394732)
Don't be so anxious. Try not to storm the court tonight.

Can I piss and shit in my underwear instead?

DeezNutz 02-11-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9394732)
Don't be so anxious. Try not to storm the court tonight.

Self held a funeral for Tyshawn Taylor this afternoon, so you might want to check yourself.

Ceej 02-11-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9394736)
Self held a funeral for Tyshawn Taylor this afternoon, so you might want to check yourself.

He needs to have one for Elijah Johnson too.


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