Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11528942)

:spock: you have no idea how police investigations work - Stooges

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 11528939)

They exist but mostly likely only in a 4th and 5th dimentional plane of our consciousness. Ask anyone who has ever had a strong Ayahuasca or DMT experience if aliens exist. The answer you get won't be what anyone who hasn't had those experiences would say. (And I'm not talking about some drugged out misfit types but rather highly functioning normal people who have had these experience....in particularly with Shamans in South America).

We all know much less than we think we do. So convinced that life as we see it is the ultimate reality...when many interesting and highly educated people will tell you its not. Mind you I have never had these experiences (yet) and certainly have never seen an alien but in talking with many people I have encountered and respect on this subject I believe there is much more to life then what we see with our 5 senses in our busy and stressed out lives.

Oh, and lastly...alien life forms have at one time physically lived on earth and helped shape our history. There are things that can't logically be explained otherwise. An interesting thought is IF Aliens did teach us about astronomy, mathematics, build pyramids, supply us with knowledge to grow, build and develop more as a species etc....would they be proud of us now?

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11528985)

The logical one.

You like to think yourself open minded but in reality you're just as close minded as someone who is certain you didn't see anything alien.

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 11528939)

Oh, and lastly...alien life forms have at one time physically lived on earth and helped shape our history. There are things that can't logically be explained otherwise. An interesting thought is IF Aliens did teach us about astronomy, mathematics, build pyramids, supply us with knowledge to grow, build and develop more as a species etc....would they be proud of us now?

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11529013)

What things have no explanation other than alien intervention?

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11529003)

Maybe not, but I'm still very certain they're not proof of aliens sneaking around stealing bovine buttholes.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11528985)

The logical one.

You like to think yourself open minded but in reality you're just as close minded as someone who is certain you didn't see anything alien.

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11529032)

No one here has seen what I have seen - so it's a little illogical to be certain I didn't see anything....

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11529029)

I never said it was - you are imagining me saying that - All I said was if all cattle mutilations were debunked then police wouldn't bother opening an investigation.

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11528876)

But I guarandamntee you that what I have seen and captured (on video) was not of this world

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11529032)

No one here has seen what I have seen - so it's a little illogical to be certain I didn't see anything....

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11529049)

But that doesn't make any sense at all. UFO/Alien autopsy has been debunked as the source for cattle mutilations.

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11528910)

Video - on an old Mini DV cassette - I'll have to dig around for it and figure out how to covert it to digital

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11529046)

I don't think anyone's arguing that you didn't see something.

You saw something. You saw something strange. You saw something you can't explain.. That doesn't mean it was aliens.

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11529062)

You said " it has been debunked that animals and bugs make the kind of marks left on the cattle" So if we scientifically know that:

A: Bugs and animals make these marks
B: There is no evidence of human presence (footprints, tire tracks etc) around the livestock

Then there is no cause for a police investigation. It's a pretty simple concept. That doesn't automatically mean that it's aliens. What it doesn't mean is that it's not a clear cut case of crazy west nile mosquitoes devouring a cattle out the the rage in their tiny brain.