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Deberg_1990 10-15-2012 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9015913)
Even the class of the athlete/QBs, Vick, has still never won anything or turned into a great QB.
Class of the athlete QB??


Never heard of Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young or Randall Cunningham?

Pitt Gorilla 10-15-2012 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Gump (Post 9016740)
Let me start by saying that I am not saying that RGIII is not good. With that said, tell me the last time a team won a Superbowl with a QB that ran a lot? I know RGIII is good with his arm but he also depends on his legs and tries to run, it will never work in the NFL. I shouldn't say never but I highly doubt it. Guys are just too big and hit too hard for a QB to be taking hits when they decide to run on a consistent basis.
Roger Staubach, Steve Young, John Elway all won. Guys like Tarkenton, McNabb, and Cunningham came close.

Edit: Zorn ran all over the place and was an outstanding QB, although I don't think his teams sniffed a Super Bowl.

You probably meant besides these guys.

mr. tegu 10-15-2012 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Gump (Post 9016740)
Let me start by saying that I am not saying that RGIII is not good. With that said, tell me the last time a team won a Superbowl with a QB that ran a lot? I know RGIII is good with his arm but he also depends on his legs and tries to run, it will never work in the NFL. I shouldn't say never but I highly doubt it. Guys are just too big and hit too hard for a QB to be taking hits when they decide to run on a consistent basis.
Here is your problem. You just think RG3 is a running QB because that is what he does sbustantially better than other QBs. The reality is he just turns what other QBs would get six yards out of into 60 yards. The guy has a 70% completion percentage which just happens to lead the NFL.

Pitt Gorilla 10-15-2012 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9016788)
Here is your problem. You just think RG3 is a running QB because that is what he does sbustantially better than other QBs. The reality is he just turns what other QBs would get six yards out of into 60 yards. The guy has a 70% completion percentage which just happens to lead the NFL.
Yeah, but...

blaise 10-15-2012 02:26 PM
I don't care that RGIII runs; it's that he doesn't seem to have good instinct for avoiding a hit. At least not now. When I watch him it seems like he's diving forward a lot, or off balance when defenders are there. His ribs and his side are exposed.
McNabb ran but he cut down on that a lot pretty early, and he bulked up. And he knew how to avoid big hits. Steve Young is maybe the closest running comparison, to me. And he lasted quite a while, so maybe RGIII wil too.

Bearcat 10-15-2012 02:33 PM
Young and Elway averaged 200-300 yards per season on under 50 attempts... even McNabb averaged under 400 yards on 65 attempts for his first 6 seasons. Newton had 706 yards on 126 attempts last season, and both are on pace for well over 100 attempts this season.

hometeam 10-15-2012 02:38 PM
Geno is this years RG3. Lets not screw this one up~

Pitt Gorilla 10-15-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 9016829)
Young and Elway averaged 200-300 yards per season on under 50 attempts... even McNabb averaged under 400 yards on 65 attempts for his first 6 seasons. Newton had 706 yards on 126 attempts last season, and both are on pace for well over 100 attempts this season.
Steve Young had 76 attempts in 1992. Cunningham had 93, 104, 118, and 87 from 88-92. Both ran less as they got older, and I imagine RGIII will do the same.

mr. tegu 10-15-2012 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9016850)
Geno is this years RG3. Lets not screw this one up~
If you mean because they are good QBs then yes. They have very different styles of play though.

hometeam 10-15-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9016858)
If you mean because they are good QBs then yes. They have very different styles of play though.
Im saying they share everything. Incredible play, high pick, do what it takes to build your team around type of guys.

Chiefnj2 10-15-2012 02:48 PM
Smith is not as good of a down field passer. The D gameplan this week was to jam his receivers at the line and take a chance getting beat. He missed a bunch of deep throws. He's still probably the best prospect this year, but he's a bit different than Griffin.

Garcia Bronco 10-15-2012 02:48 PM
I was a clown that thought that he wouldn't do this well ever. I was wrong. I still don't think he's long for this league, but who knows. Vick is still playing and while RGIII doesn't have the arm Vick does, he surely got the smarts and the love for the game.

Pitt Gorilla 10-15-2012 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9016875)
Smith is not as good of a down field passer. The D gameplan this week was to jam his receivers at the line and take a chance getting beat. He missed a bunch of deep throws. He's still probably the best prospect this year, but he's a bit different than Griffin.
It is somewhat troubling that Geno was shut down by Texas freaking Tech.

mr. tegu 10-15-2012 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9016880)
It is somewhat troubling that Geno was shut down by Texas freaking Tech.
If it makes you feel any better Tech was only 3 point underdogs. Vegas knew something.

hometeam 10-15-2012 02:56 PM
I didnt mean to derail this thread.

I was on the rg3 wagon and I just feel the same way this year~


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