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Mr_Tomahawk 03-25-2013 08:29 PM

***Official Gruden QB Camp Thread***
 
I will updated the OP with the clips once they are posted in this thread. :thumb:


http://espnmediazone.com/us/files/20...V-schedule.pdf


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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-25-2013 08:32 PM

That guy right there can play football in the NFL!

B14ckmon 03-25-2013 08:33 PM

http://video.nbcsports.msnbc.com/nbc...25806#51325806

KC_Lee 03-25-2013 08:37 PM

"The jury is still out on Matt Cassel" - John Gruden...he said this on Monday Night Football...

And I should give a rat's ass about what John Gruden has to say about the QB position beacuse????

Mr_Tomahawk 03-25-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9529461)
"The jury is still out on Matt Cassel" - John Gruden...he said this on Monday Night Football...

And I should give a rat's ass about what John Gruden has to say about the QB position beacuse????

I think it's more about seeing the QB's rather than what Gruden has to say. He says the same thing for each QB...

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-25-2013 08:41 PM

I'll take camps worse than Treblinka for $100

B14ckmon 03-25-2013 08:46 PM

http://i.imgur.com/hC1p7Mn.jpg

TimeForWasp 03-25-2013 08:46 PM

Gruden sucks.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-04-2013 11:23 AM

So it begins...

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 11:23 AM

Is it weird that Geno videos get me rock hard?

Mr_Tomahawk 04-04-2013 11:24 AM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7112m
The SportsCenter Special: Gruden’s QB Camp – Geno Smith airs for the first time on ESPN2 tonight at 7:30pm CT

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7112m
The SportsCenter Special: Gruden’s QB Camp – Matt Barkley airs Saturday for the first time at 10pm CT on ESPN2

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7111m
The SportsCenter Special: Gruden’s QB Camp – Tyler Wilson airs for the first time next Thursday, April 11th at 4pm CT on ESPNU

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs719m
The SportsCenter Special: Gruden’s QB Camp – Luke Joeckel airs for the first time Monday, April 22nd at 4pm CT on ESPNU

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs716m
Gruden’s QB Camp 1st Airs
Ryan Nassib- Thu Apr 18 4pm CT ESPNU
EJ Manuel- Fri Apr 19 4pm CT ESPNU
Tyler Bray- Fri Apr 19 4:30pm CT ESPNU

Dayze 04-04-2013 11:24 AM

Nope
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...j2iwo1_400.gif

The Franchise 04-04-2013 11:25 AM

Gruden's QB Camp: Let's interview a LT! ****ing reeruned.

Deberg_1990 04-04-2013 11:43 AM

Grudens QB camp drinking game:

Whenever Gruden uses the words: "that guy" or "let me tell you" drink a shot

KC_Lee 04-04-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9556235)
Grudens QB camp drinking game:

Whenever Gruden uses the words: "that guy" or "let me tell you" drink a shot

LMAO :LOL:

loochy 04-04-2013 11:45 AM

Jockle isn't a qb.

Dayze 04-04-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9556235)
Grudens QB camp drinking game:

Whenever Gruden uses the words: "that guy" or "let me tell you" drink a shot

"tell me what you're thinking here man"

RedDread 04-04-2013 11:49 AM

I can't wait to see Jon break down Joeckel's technique.

"Now that's a block!"

:whackit:

RedDread 04-04-2013 11:49 AM

SPIDER 2 WIDE BANANA

Deberg_1990 04-04-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9556244)
Jockle isn't a qb.

heh,

When will somone do a O-Lineman camp show?

BossChief 04-04-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9556258)
SPIDER 2 WIDE BANANA

Let's see if Geno can draw that one up.

If he truly "does his homework" he will be able to.

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:35 PM

IT'S ON!!!!!!!!!

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 06:36 PM

Geno saying good things. Sounds like he knows his shit.

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:37 PM

Gruden is about to jizz. He's got the creepy smile going on.

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 06:38 PM

Roch hard watching this just like Gruden.

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 06:38 PM

Geno drawing out a play, kicking ass, smartest mother****er alive.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-04-2013 06:39 PM

Ginger

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 06:40 PM

http://i.imgur.com/gDuOQCl.jpg

Mother****erJones 04-04-2013 06:41 PM

My dog's perked up hearing Geno say: "I don't run around like a chicken with my head cut off."

Nightfyre 04-04-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9557728)
Geno drawing out a play, kicking ass, smartest mother****er alive.

He drew out three formations... :spock:

Carlota69 04-04-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9557726)
Roch hard watching this just like Gruden.

So you're gay for Geno too?

The fascination with Geno and his chocolate pee pee is a tad bit disturbing.

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:44 PM

96 Wanda bitches

Mother****erJones 04-04-2013 06:44 PM

Geno's eyes look fine to me :hmmm:

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 06:44 PM

I'm DRIPPING right now.

Mother****erJones 04-04-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9557748)
I'm DRIPPING right now.

Tell your boyfriend to fix that issue

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 06:45 PM

so smart

http://i.imgur.com/Mkk68Yy.jpg

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 06:46 PM

Geno talking about how he can change plays at the line based on the D.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-04-2013 06:47 PM

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 47s

These QB camps are the best thing Gruden does. By far. Fantastic stuff. But I'd love to see the unedited stuff.

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:48 PM

Busts out the Manning stretch play from practice once again. LMAO Chuckie loves that ****ing clip.

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 06:48 PM

Did someone just turn one of these on?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SL._SY300_.jpg

GETTIN THE VAPAHS!

tk13 04-04-2013 06:48 PM

LMAO Everything to Gruden is the greatest thing ever.

Dave Lane 04-04-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9557742)
So you're gay for Geno too?

The fascination with Geno and his chocolate pee pee is a tad bit disturbing.

Well I'm not but does it count if I say he would look good in red?

Bewbies 04-04-2013 06:53 PM

Stopped looking for a stream. Failure of a night :(

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:55 PM

ROFL Geno mentions "looking dejected".

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9557772)
Stopped looking for a stream. Failure of a night :(

http://samistream.com/espn2-live-tv.php

Took me like 1 minute of googling...

Sorter 04-04-2013 06:58 PM

Wait, he's not going to have Geno do any real board work or go out on the field?

WTF

tk13 04-04-2013 06:59 PM

Well if he flames out, at least he'll have a backup career in anime.

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 06:59 PM

I'd let Geno draw me like one of his french girls.

Sorter 04-04-2013 07:00 PM

Jumped the gun.

Sorter 04-04-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9557785)
Well if he flames out, at least he'll have a backup career in anime.

LMAO

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 07:00 PM

Time for a cold shower.

Nightfyre 04-04-2013 07:00 PM

That was a lame episode.

Molitoth 04-04-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9557784)
Wait, he's not going to have Geno do any real board work or go out on the field?

WTF

Still wasn't much. :(

Sorter 04-04-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9557798)
That was a lame episode.

I was disappointed.

RealSNR 04-04-2013 07:14 PM

THEY TELL ME UR AN ARTIST, GEEENAOW SMITH

WHATS AN ARTIST?

TribalElder 04-04-2013 07:15 PM

Why is Teo even there? QB camp not imaginary girlfriend is a gay lover phone sexathon sleepover camp

Hammock Parties 04-04-2013 07:17 PM

This kid has been grilled, poked and prodded by two of Andy Reid's closest friends: Jon Gruden and Steve Mariucci.

The Chiefs probably know everything about this kid anyone could ever know. If they don't take him there's probably a good reason.

DTLB58 04-04-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9556171)
So it begins...

You mean again, Right?

B14ckmon 04-04-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9557842)
This kid has been grilled, poked and prodded by two of Andy Reid's closest friends: Jon Gruden and Steve Mariucci.

The Chiefs probably know everything about this kid anyone could ever know. If they don't take him there's probably a good reason.

Yea, because they already have a franchise QB.

Mr. Laz 04-04-2013 08:02 PM

What pros/cons come with Geno Smith
April, 4, 2013
11:08
AM ET

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</cite>When the smoke clears, what will become of Geno Smith?



Jon Gruden will be doing his Quarterback Camp with Geno Smith at 8:30 p.m. ET tonight on ESPN2.

To give you something to think about as you watch, here is an in-depth breakdown of Smith’s greatest strengths and some team-specific concerns about him from a statistical perspective.

Greatest Strengths

Accuracy

Smith completed 71.2 percent of his passes last season, including 42 touchdowns. Smith threw just six interceptions in 518 pass attempts and did not throw an interception in his first 272 pass attempts of the season.

Comparing Quarterbacks
Final Year of College


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font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Russell Wilson</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">72.8</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">10.4</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Robert Griffin III</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">72.4</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">10.2</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Andrew Luck</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">71.3</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">9.0</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Geno Smith</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">71.2</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">7.7</td></tr></tbody></table>



Smith was particularly effective on short passes. He attempted half of his passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage, including an AQ-high 112 screen passes last season.

On passes of this distance, Smith completed 82.6 percent with 15 touchdowns and no interceptions.

In comparison to recent top QBs, Smith completed a similar percentage of his passes in his final year of college, but it is important to note that his average pass traveled more than a yard shorter than all of those quarterbacks listed in the chart above.

Poise in the Pocket

Smith completed 70.8 percent of his passes when opponents sent five or more pass rushers last season, the highest completion percentage against the blitz of Scouts Inc.’s top eight QB prospects.

Passing vs Blitz
Final College Season


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</th><th style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(194, 194, 194); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); text-align: left; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Griffin III</th><th style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(194, 194, 194); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); text-align: left; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Smith</th></tr></thead><tbody style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Comp pct</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">70.2</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">70.8</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Yds per att</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">11.8</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">8.7</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">TD-Int</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">11-0</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">12-1</td></tr><tr class="last" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">20+ yd comp</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">18</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">14</td></tr></tbody></table>



Smith was able to exploit blitzing defenses in much the same way that Robert Griffin III did in his final season of college. Griffin III went on to lead the NFL with a 96.8 Total QBR against the blitz.

Further, Smith was sacked 19 times in 571 dropbacks last season. He was able to scramble for 253 yards when forced out of the pocket as well as complete 49.5 percent of his passes when under duress (avg FBS quarterback completed only 40 percent).

Ball Placement

West Virginia gained 2,459 yards after the catch last season, most of any school in an AQ conference. While the Mountaineers had one of the best receiving duos in the nation in Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey, a lot of their success was due to Smith’s ball placement.

The Mountaineers averaged 6.5 yards after the catch per reception and gained at least five yards after the catch on 44 percent of their receptions last season.

To put that into perspective, Baylor averaged 6.3 yards after the catch per reception while running a similar offense with Griffin at quarterback.

Team-Specific Concerns

Under Center Snaps

Smith attempted over 96 percent of his passes out of a shotgun or pistol formation in his career.

The NFL is trending towards more spread tendencies, but the average NFL quarterback still attempted over a third of his passes after taking a snap from under center.

Zone-read Running

Teams looking for the next zone-read quarterback may be lured by Smith’s 4.59 40-yard dash at the combine. Yet, Smith attempted only 11 designed rushes in 2012 and averaged 2.5 yards per rush on those carries.

Smith is adept at taking snaps and passing from a pistol formation – the primary formation used for zone reads – but has not shown the ability to run out of the formation.

Since West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen introduced Smith to the pistol in 2011, Smith has thrown 42 touchdowns and four interceptions out of that formation. He improved his completion rate from 63 percent in 2011 to nearly 72 percent last season.

Note that just because Smith did not run does not mean that he cannot run. Smith scrambled for 253 yards and averaged 7.2 yards per scramble in 2012.

Weather

Smith’s final college game came in snowy Yankee Stadium in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl. The lasting image for many will be Smith struggling in that game with one fumble lost and two plays resulting in safeties.

Geno Smith By Temperature
Vs AQ Opponents Last 2 Seasons


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border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">2-5</td><td style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 7px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); outline: 0px; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">10-4</td></tr></tbody><tfoot style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><tr style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 11.333333015441895px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><td colspan="3" style="margin: 0px; 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Over the last two seasons, Smith has fared worse in cold weather than in mild weather.

In the seven games that he played against AQ opponents where the temperature was 50 degrees or colder at kickoff, he completed less than 65 percent of his passes and turned the ball over at a higher rate than in games when the temperature was above 50 degrees.


Mr_Tomahawk 04-05-2013 05:18 AM

Updated.

TribalElder 04-05-2013 07:25 AM

after watching this I bet the eagles trade up with us and get geno.

Coogs 04-05-2013 07:31 AM

If we don't take this guy at #1, then we don't ever really deserve to have a franchise QB. You have to roll the dice sometime, and this guy appears to have everything that has been in question the past couple of months. Leadership and command of the situation. The rest of the stuff has never been I doubt.

BossChief 04-05-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9558608)
If we don't take this guy at #1, then we don't ever really deserve to have a franchise QB. You have to roll the dice sometime, and this guy appears to have everything that has been in question the past couple of months. Leadership and command of the situation. The rest of the stuff has never been I doubt.

I wouldn't say that. To tell the truth, I think he was weak on the board...these guys want quarterbacks to draw up plays quickly and to explain the nuances of the play. Geno seemed slow to draw things up to me (Gruden even mentions it while Geno is drawing it up)...but seemed to be pretty good once he got going.

I was also interested to hear that WV only went into each game with around 7 plays and ran them out of multiple formations.

Geno is gonna take some developmental time to learn the WCO...I doubt very highly that he would be a quality game 1 starter.

Dayze 04-05-2013 07:56 AM

I watched the one on NFLN and Barkely intrigued me. I don't really know much about the kid. but seemed smart / quick thinker.

Mr. Laz 04-05-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9558608)
If we don't take this guy at #1, then we don't ever really deserve to have a franchise QB. You have to roll the dice sometime, and this guy appears to have everything that has been in question the past couple of months. Leadership and command of the situation. The rest of the stuff has never been I doubt.

Q

aturnis 04-05-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9558627)
I watched the one on NFLN and Barkely intrigued me. I don't really know much about the kid. but seemed smart / quick thinker.

Barkley was worse than Geno with Mooch. Especially considering he has already spent 4yrs in he system.

I was actually more impressed with Geno than I thought I'd be on Gruden's QB Camp. I don't think Geno was slow on the board, he just cared what they looked like(artist), and Gruden's comment was that they were about the best drawn plays he'd seen on the show.

I thought the multiple reads and options he was able to make from one play was a lot more complex than the typical guy has on the show. It seems like the typical guy on the show has two options per play based on read, whereas Geno might have 3-4.

Also he said they MIGHT go into a game with 7 plays, not that they always do...

Agreed though, he might be best served to sit awhile and marinate in the offense.

That said, I agree with Coogs. Gotta take him. Zero questions left to answer for me...

Mr. Laz 04-05-2013 09:21 AM

seems like to me they asked Geno to make tons of reads at West Virginia


I don't see how 'understanding defenses' can be listed as a weakness


looks like he ran a hybrid Spread/West Coast/Tempo type offense to me


isn't that pretty much exactly what Andy Reid wants to run?

ChiefMojo 04-05-2013 09:26 AM

I do have concerns about Geno and bad weather. The facts are there he struggles mightily if conditions aren't nice. Something to think about if your a team that deals with cold weather and wind.

The Franchise 04-05-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9558769)
looks like to me they asked Geno to make tons of reads at West Virginia


I don't see how 'understanding defenses' can be listed as a weakness


looks like he ran a hybrid Spread/West Coast/Tempo type offense to me


isn't that pretty much exactly what Andy Reid wants to run?

They should just list his weakness as this.

Weaknesses: Came out the year after Andrew Luck and RGIII. Dark complexioned QB that doesn't run the football. No one gives a shit about West Virginia. Played on a team that had a defense who could stop no one.

Mr. Laz 04-05-2013 09:37 AM

Geno does have sort of a blank look on his face like he is confused or half asleep.

You would have to spend some time with him and see if that is just a look or not.

I assume it's not ... surely he wouldn't of been as successful as he was if he was a 'blank' guy.


Reid and Gruden have worked together before so maybe Reid with give Gruden a call and get his opinion.

ModSocks 04-05-2013 09:40 AM

One thing that's always bugged me about Geno is that he's an art major. Considering everything he could've studied, why art?

Mr. Laz 04-05-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9558805)
One thing that's always bugged me about Geno is that he's an art major. Considering everything he could've studied, why art?

less homework?

if you like to draw it sounds like a pretty easy course

Coogs 04-05-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9558800)
Geno does have sort of a blank look on his face like he is confused or half asleep.

You would have to spend some time with him and see if that is just a look or not.

I assume it's not ... surely he wouldn't of been as successful as he was if he was a 'blank' guy.


Reid and Gruden have worked together before so maybe Reid with give Gruden a call and get his opinion.

Eric "sleepy" Floyd of the NBA in the 1980's.

The Franchise 04-05-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9558805)
One thing that's always bugged me about Geno is that he's an art major. Considering everything he could've studied, why art?

He's liked art since he was a little kid.

The Franchise 04-05-2013 10:00 AM

Oh....and ESPN took down your video, bro.

Coogs 04-05-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9558894)
Oh....and ESPN took down your video, bro.

ESPN is getting smarter. Hanging out at the ChiefsPlanet to get their stories.

Valiant 04-05-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9558805)
One thing that's always bugged me about Geno is that he's an art major. Considering everything he could've studied, why art?

He liked art. You can teach with it or further your own art career.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-05-2013 10:03 AM

Welp...someone provide me with a new link and I will update the OP.

NewChief 04-05-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9558805)
One thing that's always bugged me about Geno is that he's an art major. Considering everything he could've studied, why art?

I didn't know that. I actually think that's cool as hell and sets him apart from all the business/communications majors out there in the athletics world.


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