2nd rnd. Geno, Wilson, Barkley, Glennon gone...
 

Given Dorseys comments the other day about not being a clear cut QB at #1....lets assume we do not draft a QB in the 1st and say Geno, Wilson, Glennon, and Barkley are gone by the 2nd rnd.

Who do you think we go after [qb] and in what rnd?

Won't matter we will be ****ed.

Wilson in round 2

SHa if he is there, no guarantee on that. Russian Roulette anybody?

It doesn't matter. Just draft another lineman or something.

In Tomahawk's scenario he hasn't been taken. That's the direction I would go if things shake down that way.

He doesn't make it out of the 1st....neither does Geno, Barkley, or Glennon.

Oh. In that case, panic and take a DT.

Anyone but EJ

Bray in 3 rd?

This is my thought but I don't think he last till the 3rd.

I would be willing to bet all of these QBs aren't gone round 1.

I'm assuming you mean Wilson since you have Geno and Smith :)

If they are all gone, I think I hope like hell that Foles is already on the roster...

Dysert in round 3-4, providing we traded or signed a free agent "supposedly" starter.

I thought about Dysert. He'd be a possibility if they bring in someone like Alex Smith.

But if they go for Foles, he's so young it kind of makes picking a QBOTF redundant.

But what about Stanzi.....

What about 'Merica

My money is they all won't go in round one. Long shot, but plausible.

We'll know the plan well before the draft. We'll have a veteran most likely, and we'll know the direction for the first pick. It won't be an, "Oh no! We missed out on the QB, and now they're all gone!" situation, at least from their perspective. If they don't take a QB first, they're fully prepared for the top 2,3 or 4 to be gone and they're fine with that. If they want one of the QBs they'll get one of the QBs.

So everyone is gone except the guy you've been pimping for months? Do you just need to hear people say they'd take Wilson so you can get off or something?

Spot on

Barf when someone mentions Nassib

Is it unrealistic to think the 4 QBs I named will be gone in the 1st?

Don't hate because Stanzi is going to be a dishwasher somewhere in a couple of seasons...

Personally, I think only 2 of those QB's go in round 1. But given your scenario, with Glennon gone, we don't grab a QB until later. A camp arm.

Alex Smith, Nick Foles or Matt Flynn will be our QB next year.

LOL

I guess Stanzi just can't figure out the real estate game like Brodie Croyle

If that happens, then **** all the QBs.

Take something else. Start Stanzi for the year. Suck another year.

Maybe in 2014, Dorsey won't be a such a huge ****ing idiot.

The Jaguars deserve you as a fan. Go piss off with Cockmon

I agree. If the Chiefs trade Albert for Joeckel it is 100% a money issue and the only way they're getting Wilson (who I would be fine with, height and hand-size criticism be damned) is if they move back into the bottom of the first round. Depending on the number of spots it could cost us a third or fourth, but frankly I don't think we'll have our third because either San Fran or Seattle will have it.

You can always trade back into the first round.

You really need to come up with something better than saying "Blackmon" as "Cockmon". It makes you look like a 12 year old. And I will steal your Charizard card.

There would still be some good options left. Hopefully we'd have Alex Smith or Foles on the roster to give whomever a chance to develop though.

Can't you idiots see? The media doesn't want to have to talk about the Chiefs in a positive light, they want the top QB to go somewhere else so they can fawn over him there. They hate talking Chiefs....LMAO I'm laughing but it just seems weird that when we get the pick, there is no QB that's good and I feel that is bullshit.

Yes, they would rather the top QB goes to one of those huge market teams like the Carolina Panthers...

I've given this some thought, and I've reached the conclusion that I won't give flying rat's **** what they do in the second roud, or beyond.

I won't care. I'll be a 49ers fan at that point

Nassib

If that happens just draft a ****ing cornerback and hope you can trade into the top 10 next year for a QB.

I agree. Plus Bray (if his head/maturity check out in interviews) is a 2nd rounder not a 3rd, IMO. We may even be able to trade down our 2nd and get him in the middle of the 2nd round. But I doubt he will survive past that.

If we sign Alex Smith I'd almost bet our 2nd or 3rd pick is a QB. Another option is to try to get both AS and Foles (provided one comes in as a FA) and let them fight it out.

You named 3 QBs.

I haven't given up on Stanzi yet. Not with Reid as our HC. I'm not predicting this definitively, but he may prove to be a solid QB yet.

OK, I'm not saying Stanzi as a starter. Just saying he is probably better than the idiots in the last regime thought.

Finally, somebody tells the bottom line truth. Why did it take so long to get a first down here?

It didn't. It gets mentioned in threads here fairly often.

So, just so I understand, you worry about Geno's sideline frustration when things ren't going well, which only occured a couple times, and see that as a red flag which leads to questions for you about his viability as the #1 overall, but a guy whose maturity issues are Leafesque is worth a mid second rounder?

Here is what we do


@nfldraftscout: If #Chiefs want my opinion: Sign/trade for Alex Smith. Draft Matt Scott in Round 5. Cut Cassell. Sign Bowe. Draft Joeckel.

Who is Matt Scott?

Arizona qb

Here is what you do draftscout: run face first into an AIDS forest

This is what I don't understand from fans. Do t want the best qb from a bad class but the 5 best?

The media was largely against the Cam Newton pick all the way up until the final week of the draft when they just ****ing accepted it and moved on.

They'll throw the exact same childish tantrum if the Chiefs are set on taking a QB at 1.

Much as I hate to say it it'd just as soon hit the field With Cassel or Stanzi as with any of those losers. What a horrific trio.

I might prefer Tyson Jackson running the wildcat.

Makers Mark. And Im in AA...
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We should hire Scott Pioli as a college scout and let him run our draft board.

If that happens don't take one at all this year. Just **** the QB position once again like we always do.

Why get the 5th best QB in an already supposedly "weak" class? It makes no sense at all.

Take Tyler Bray so we can enjoy the epic meltdown. We might as well be entertained if we're not gonna win.

Bray will be gone by the time you draft. So don't even.

Ryan Nassib

I would take Joekel in the first so we can move Albert to Guard. Then, I would take a guard in the second so we can move Albert to Center.

We can sign waters and he can play center.

Then we can move Albert to TE.

Then we could finally get Albert to QB. A LT at QB is a true-fan's wet dream.

I didn't choose Bray over Smith. But I might consider Bray a better value in the 3rd or late 2nd than Smith at the top of the draft. But I won't know until the interviews and the combine are in. If Bray's interview convinces the Chiefs brass that his "immaturity" was only a college phase I'll defer to Andy Reid.

LMAO

IF it's a case of 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 1e instead of a clear 1 to 5, 1e in the 2nd or 3rd round is a much better risk than blowing the top choice of the draft on 1a. Is there a measurable daylight between the top 5? Folks here are arguing up and down about it. But the reality is we don't know until all facts are in.

Yes, and it's not really arguable at this point, in that most of the evals haven't even occurred yet.

lmao this. I believe it truly is what those dumb mother****ers want.
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It looks to me like 80% of the teams in the top 10 picks are in desperate need of a QB

I hope so...

There's NO VALUE in a QB that can't play...

This search for mythical "value" is about as silly as it gets...

No.

Brady Quinn was a "great value" with how far he fell.


Or was he?...:hmmm:

:thumb:

:clap:

Normally the team drafts too late to get a QB now they are drafting too early. :banghead:

said it before ...


if we don't take a QB at #1 then we MUST have a plan in place to trade back up into the 1st round and grab the guy we want.

The difficult question is knowing how far the QB's will fall.

Yea guys, we can time the market and get out just in time! [/techbubble investors]

Which is why any plan that hinges on such a trade is SUPER risky. I really hope this isn't their plan.

please god no more QB trades....enough.
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agreed ... i didn't say that i wanted us to do it.

If the Chiefs determine that there just isn't a QB worth the #1 or that they just have to have some other guy at #1 then they need a plan to trade up in place.


what would trading up from #34 to 13-18ish cost?


assuming that Geno/Wilson won't be considered top 10 or they would just draft him at #1 so they would both fall to the middle of the 1st round fairly 'safely'

Oh I know...

From LSU.:(

I didn't make up the thread scenario dude.