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Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:21 PM

The Combine's Here, Bitch!
 
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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

Quote:

Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

Quote:

40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:22 PM

The biggest surprise so far is how big Greg Robinson is, now. 6'5", 332 lbs? 35" arms.

Good lord.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:24 PM

Jace Amaro has 34" arms (very good), and 9" hands (small for a TE).

Crockett Gillmore has nearly 11" hands. Unreal. He continues to be my favorite late round TE. 33" arms, too.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:25 PM

Longest arms amongst TEs so far: Marcel Jensen. Saccopoo would be thrilled. Nearly 35" arms. 6'6", 259 lbs.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:27 PM

Just in terms of measurable, Troy Niklas looking pretty good for the TEs. 6'6", 270 lbs, 34+" arms with 10" hands.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:28 PM

Cyrus Kouandjio has 36" arms. 6'6", 322 lbs. That sound you just heard was Andy Reid's erection. (It's very loud.)

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:29 PM

USC's center Marcus Martin, who I really love on the 2nd day, has 34" arms. Really good for a center.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-20-2014 01:32 PM

Jake Matthews with short arms for a OT. Like some expected. He can play anywhere on the line, but his stock is taking a hit (as it should).

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:33 PM

We're going to take an OL player in the 1st, lol. If Zach Martin is there, it'll be him. Both Reid and Dorsey love building from the trenches.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-20-2014 01:33 PM

There are some big ass TEs in this draft

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10443462)
There are some big ass TEs in this draft

I want to see if any of them can run in the 4.6 range. Amaro and Ebron are the best bets to do it because they are easily the most explosive of the bunch. Ebron may flirt with 4.4s.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:35 PM

I actually liked Tyler Larsen as a late-round center, but 31" arms is going to get you slaughtered in the interior.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:36 PM

I really like Brandon Thomas as a OG prospect. Probably an upgrade over Allen and could compete to start in his rookie year.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:37 PM

Ju'wuan James looks like a left tackle, man.

Pretty crazy how the Tennessee tackles are shaping up. JJ played RT, but projects very well to the left side. He could be this year's Donald Stephenson -- a 2nd day guy with really good LT potential.

Antonio Richardson played at LT for the Vols, but he just seems to be a powerful RT at the next level.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:39 PM

Longest arms of the Combine, it's official: Kansas State's Cornelius "Luke" Lucas, who's over 6'8", has nearly 37" arms, lol.

My god. Too bad he's slow as molasses.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:40 PM

Didn't think Amaro's hands would be that small with the way he catches the ball. Huge radius though with 34" arms.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-20-2014 01:40 PM

Alabama kid will probably jump Matthews too

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443480)
Longest arms of the Combine, it's official: Kansas State's Cornelius "Luke" Lucas, who's over 6'8", has nearly 37" arms, lol.

My god. Too bad he's slow as molasses.

This draft's Herman Johnson.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10443483)
Alabama kid will probably jump Matthews too

Based off of pure potential, yes, but his play wouldn't really warrant that move up. Struggles against top pass rushers.

Mav 02-20-2014 01:43 PM

what did ebron come in at?

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10443490)
what did ebron come in at?

For future reference, Walter Football's a reliable one-stop shop for Combine figures. :)

http://walterfootball.com/combine.php

Ebron: 6-4 3/8", 250, 33 1/4" arms, 10" hands.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10443490)
what did ebron come in at?

6'4 3/8", 250 pounds. He has better size than VD.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:48 PM

Dan Kadar ‏@MockingTheDraft · 2m
Lewan: "I'm the best Super Smash Brothers player to ever play the game." BOLD TAKE

LMAO

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:49 PM

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 27m
Austin Seferian-Jenkins has dropped 20 pounds since the season. Said he added weight to block more.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 01:50 PM

Wonder how much speed/quickness he'll add with that drop in weight.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:50 PM

Dan Kadar ‏@MockingTheDraft · 40m
Jake Matthews said he never had any issues with what Johnny Manziel did off the field.

Mav 02-20-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443494)
For future reference, Walter Football's a reliable one-stop shop for Combine figures. :)

http://walterfootball.com/combine.php

Ebron: 6-4 3/8", 250, 33 1/4" arms, 10" hands.

I just wanted the official stuff. Cant wait to see what Teddy Bridgewater comes in at.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:52 PM

Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris · 26m
For those wondering if Jace Amaro's 9" hands equal drops, @NU_Gap charted all of his targets in '13. 7.69% drop rate

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:54 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout · 1h
Do the #Jaguars expect Justin Blackmon back? "We haven't really thought about it." - Caldwell

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:56 PM

Not Combine related stuff, but interesting nonetheless:

Greg Peshek ‏@NU_Gap · 2h
Khalil Mack does nice things, but sack total is questionable. Two came on intentional grounding, another .5 sack against OSU doesn't exist

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:56 PM

Jim (Memphis)

Whose combine workout are you most wanting to see?

Mel Kiper (2:05 PM)

I would say right now it would be these players: Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida; De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon; Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU; Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss; Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn; Kendall James, CB, Maine; Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State.

Mav 02-20-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443531)
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout · 1h
Do the #Jaguars expect Justin Blackmon back? "We haven't really thought about it." - Caldwell

There is a good chance if they take Sammy Watkins, I may kick Kittens.

Mav 02-20-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443534)
Jim (Memphis)

Whose combine workout are you most wanting to see?

Mel Kiper (2:05 PM)

I would say right now it would be these players: Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida; De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon; Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU; Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss; Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn; Kendall James, CB, Maine; Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State.

D'anthony Thomas will probably run a 4.32, and bench the bar 4 times.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10443539)
D'anthony Thomas will probably run a 4.32, and bench the bar 4 times.

LMAO

Direckshun 02-20-2014 02:02 PM

@ChrisBurke_SI: Ebron also says he'll run a faster 40 than Gio Bernard did.

Bernard ran a 4.50.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 02:10 PM

Interesting:

Quote:

Short-Area Quickness

When looking for drills whose top performers tend to have the best future success for specific position groups, two stood out.

First is the 20-yard shuttle for offensive linemen.

Though it fails to account for upper-body strength and skills, the 20-yard shuttle effectively showcases which offensive linemen have an ability to bend, plant, and burst quickly in their lower body as well as move in open space. This is important because nimble linemen can react and redirect against quick-twitch pass rushers. Since 2006, Eagles C Jason Kelce, Colts C Samson Satele, Panthers C Ryan Kalil, Patriots OT Nate Solder, Jets C Nick Mangold, Colts OT Anthony Castonzo, Redskins C Will Montgomery, Vikings G Brandon Fusco, Chiefs T Eric Fisher and long time T Eric Winston make up 10 of the top 14 clocked times in the 20-yard shuttle.

Not all of these offensive linemen are stars, but they have all played at a high level or have displayed promise early on in their careers.

In 2013, we saw the likes of Fisher, Lane Johnson, Terron Armstead, Kyle Long, and Jonathan Cooper display great movement skills for a heavy-set position. I doubt we see that along the offensive line again this year. All eyes will be on Auburn’s Greg Robinson, and I would be shocked if he is not the first offensive lineman off the board in May. Other easy movers could include North Dakota State’s Billy Turner, Clemson’s Brandon Thomas, Furman’s Dakota Dozier and UCLA’s Xavier Su’a-Filo

The other test that projects future success better than others is the 3-cone drill for edge players.

Much is made of a pass rusher's initial upfield get-off, but an ability to plant and quickly change direction can be equally effective. The 3-cone drill puts different types of pass rushers on an equal playing field. Since 2006, pass rushers like the Cardinals’ Sam Acho, Seahawks’ Bruce Irvin, Chargers’ Melvin Ingram, Browns’ Barkevious Mingo, Eagles’ Connor Barwin, Texans’ J.J. Watt, Lions’ Devin Taylor and Vikings’ Brian Robison make up eight of the top 10 times in the “DL” group, all running under a 6.90. The Seahawks’ Cliff Avril is also in the next grouping.

Von Miller would also fit in this grouping but worked out with “LBs,” and Clay Matthews is in Avril’s category after posting a 6.90.

CBS Sports’ Bruce Feldman noted South Dakota edge player Tyler Starr is hoping to shatter these numbers. Not only does Starr want to break Sam Acho’s 6.69, he wants to break the Combine record (since 2006) of 6.42 seconds run by wide receiver Jeff Maehl. If an edge prospect does not waste movement and combines that agility, bend and balance with meaningful hand use and strength, watch out. The Patriots are one team that values the 3-cone times, not only for the positions previously listed but also for cornerbacks.

Along with Starr, take note of UCLA’s Anthony Barr, Buffalo’s Khalil Mack, Georgia Tech’s Jeremiah Attaochu, Auburn’s Dee Ford, Boise State’s Demarcus Lawrence, South Carolina’s Jadeveon Clowney and one final edge player who fits in my next category…
Incidentally:

Dan Kadar ‏@MockingTheDraft · 1m
Belichick is now breaking down combine drills. He seems to value the three-cone.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443562)
Interesting:



Incidentally:

Dan Kadar ‏@MockingTheDraft · 1m
Belichick is now breaking down combine drills. He seems to value the three-cone.

I'm really intrigued by Starr. He reportedly clocked a 6.29 3 cone drill in training and his quickness and ability to accelerate does show up in the limited tape that I saw of him (draftbreakdown). He's just really raw and looks indecisive a lot of the time; he also needs to improve his strength because he gets driven back fairly easily in the run game.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 02:26 PM

2014 NFL Combine Rumors: Thursday, Feb. 20, 3:05 p.m.
By Tony Pauline, http://draftinsider.net/

The 2014 NFL Combine kicks-off with the first workouts starting this Saturday. Its also the unofficial start of free agency. Who's expected to surprise scouts this weekend? And where may some of the top free agent tackles land? Here's the Thursday edition of Combine News & Notes.

Chicago Bears:
I gushed over Aaron Donald's performance at the Senior Bowl and have been told to expect much of the same during his combine workout on Monday. Donald, a 500+ pound bench presser, is expected to total in the mid 30's on the bench then run his forty somewhere in the 4.7's after tipping the scales in the low 290-pound area. I'm told Donald will also put up some pretty spectacular times in the agility drills. Where could Donald end up in May? After the combine we said teams late in the first round would have to start giving the Pittsburgh lineman consideration but recent rumblings have the Chicago Bears very interested in his services with the 14th pick of round one.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
Most mock drafts have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers selecting a tackle with the 7th pick of the draft. But free agency may negate that opinion. I'm told you can expect the Buccaneers to be big players in the Branden Albert sweepstakes if the Kansas City Chiefs don't resign sign him as expected. It should come as no surprise but the other NFL team from Florida, the Miami Dolphins, are also expected to be suitors for Albert if he hits the free agent market.

New York Jets:
As I posted on Twitter yesterday, the New York Jets will meet with representatives of Austin Howard at the combine in the coming days with the hopes of locking up their starting right tackle. I'm told the Jets are making Howard a priority, and as first reported in New York papers a week ago, the team has already sent off an initial offer. How much will Howard receive? Yesterday a league insider told me it could be similar to the deal Phil Loadholt signed with the Minnesota Vikings almost a year ago.

St. Louis Rams:
It's a similar situation with Rodger Saffold and the St Louis Rams, so I'm told. The team met with Saffold's agents last month and are expected to sit down with them again in Indianapolis.

Tennessee Titans:
The top cornerback in free agency is expected to be Alterraun Verner. Recent reports state the Tennessee Titans won't place a franchise tag on their coveted defensive back. Insiders tell me Verner is expected to sign a free agent contract that will start at $9 million annually.

Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson:
Forty times of the receivers are always something to watch and I'm told the wide out who could surprise everyone is Martavis Bryant of Clemson. Bryant, who goes an unofficial 6-feet, 5-inches, is expected to run in the low 4.3's and could even breach the high 4.2's.

Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado:
I'm told Paul Richardson of Colorado is expected to run faster than expected and could break into the 4.3's. Scouts I've spoken with compare Richardson's style to Philadelphia Eagles wide out DeSean Jackson, though not quite as fast.

Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois:
Jimmie Ward of Northern Illinois is one of our favorite defensive backs but his size and athleticism are questioned. I'm told Ward, who lined up at both cornerback and safety at NIU, will pleasantly surprise NFL decision makers on Tuesday.

Richard Rodgers, TE, California:
I'm told Cal tight end Richard Rodgers will tip the scales around 265-pounds and is expected to run in the 4.7-area. Low 4.7's could seal him as a 4th rounder.

jonzie04 02-20-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443480)
Longest arms of the Combine, it's official: Kansas State's Cornelius "Luke" Lucas, who's over 6'8", has nearly 37" arms, lol.

My god. Too bad he's slow as molasses.



Mother of god.

Dante84 02-20-2014 03:06 PM

Lets go ahead and sticky this.

Surely we can get rid of one of the 2013 threads up there.

jonzie04 02-20-2014 03:18 PM

Read on that walterfootball site you posted the chiefs were interested in christian jones . Hed br a hell of a pick up in the 3rd!

Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10443636)
Lets go ahead and sticky this.

Surely we can get rid of one of the 2013 threads up there.

We'd need one of the mods to give enough of a shit about the Draft to read this forum.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10443659)
Read on that walterfootball site you posted the chiefs were interested in christian jones . Hed br a hell of a pick up in the 3rd!

Ugh. Does not seem to fit our defense at all.

htismaqe 02-20-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443578)
Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois:
Jimmie Ward of Northern Illinois is one of our favorite defensive backs but his size and athleticism are questioned. I'm told Ward, who lined up at both cornerback and safety at NIU, will pleasantly surprise NFL decision makers on Tuesday.

Me likey.

Dante84 02-20-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443671)
We'd need one of the mods to give enough of a shit about the Draft to read this forum.

we can always try flagging/reporting the thread so they see the request

Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:38 PM

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 49m
Colt Lyerla said all of his legal issues have been resolved at this point. "It's all on the table."

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 50m
Lyerla said he's made an effort to not hang around the same people he was hanging around when he was getting in trouble.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 51m
Colt Lyerla said the low point for him was getting in trouble and having the whole thing become public.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 52m
Colt Lyerla: Everything from the times those things have happened has been a complete change.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 53m
Colt Lyerla talking now in front of quite the crowd. http://yfrog.com/nti7cveaj

OldSchool 02-20-2014 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443693)
Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 49m
Colt Lyerla said all of his legal issues have been resolved at this point. "It's all on the table."

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 50m
Lyerla said he's made an effort to not hang around the same people he was hanging around when he was getting in trouble.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 51m
Colt Lyerla said the low point for him was getting in trouble and having the whole thing become public.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 52m
Colt Lyerla: Everything from the times those things have happened has been a complete change.

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 53m
Colt Lyerla talking now in front of quite the crowd. http://yfrog.com/nti7cveaj

Good stuff, may end up going around the 4-5th round if teams feel he is being truthful about everything. He has top talent, just red flags off the field will move him off of a lot of boards.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:41 PM

Interesting........................

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 2h
Billy Turner said he has talked to the Packers and Chiefs in Indianapolis among a handful of teams.

My thoughts on Turner:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10424204)
OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State -- I can't recall ever watching tape on NDSU ever before, but Turner is almost too outstanding an athlete to play ****ing Fargo. You're talking about a 6'5", 315 lber who can run. Turner may come close to breaking 5.0 at the Combine, but that doesn't matter -- this guy runs very well on the field. He's as effortless an athlete as there is in this draft at the tackle position. He's a punishing run-blocker, especially when he has his sights locked in -- playing all the way to the whistle. Really impressive. Really good mirroring in pass blocking, but his feet are too narrow in his kickslide -- correctable. I think he's got some left tackle potential, but teams will be drooling thinking about him on the right side. 2nd day pick. I like him more than some of the projected 1st rounders.


Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:43 PM

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 2h
Jake Matthews mentioned Mizzou DE Kony Ealy as one of the best players he played against this year. Mixed up his moves well.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 03:45 PM

Steelers GM:

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 6h
Colbert says this might be the most talented group and most immature group of draft prospects he's seen.

htismaqe 02-20-2014 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443701)
Interesting........................

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 2h
Billy Turner said he has talked to the Packers and Chiefs in Indianapolis among a handful of teams.

My thoughts on Turner:

You think Turner could play guard in the ZBS?

htismaqe 02-20-2014 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443708)
Steelers GM:

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 6h
Colbert says this might be the most talented group and most immature group of draft prospects he's seen.

I would imagine that's going to be the case every year from here on out. It's a societal thing.

Dante84 02-20-2014 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443701)
Interesting........................

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 2h
Billy Turner said he has talked to the Packers and Chiefs in Indianapolis among a handful of teams.

My thoughts on Turner:

This be that shit to throw in the Visited/Met with thread.

In case I miss these, please be sure to add these types of posts to it.

I got this one, thanks for catching it!

EDIT - Already had him - this makes twice that we've talked with this guy.

Sandy Vagina 02-20-2014 04:45 PM

good source for measurements

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=8

mikey23545 02-20-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443468)
I actually liked Tyler Larsen as a late-round center, but 31" arms is going to get you slaughtered in the interior.

How does he manage to put the ball on the ground before the snap?

TambaBerry 02-20-2014 04:57 PM

how do they measure their hands?

OldSchool 02-20-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10443797)
how do they measure their hands?

I imagine it's tip of the thumb to tip of the pinky.

TambaBerry 02-20-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10443807)
I imagine it's tip of the thumb to tip of the pinky.

cool mine are 9 inches lol so Amaro does have small hands

Direckshun 02-20-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10443717)
You think Turner could play guard in the ZBS?

I'm not an expert, but I don't think he'll have any trouble translating to guard at all.

bowener 02-20-2014 06:22 PM

NFL.com mocks show Ealy going after the Chiefs pick. Anybody else here see him as a potential rushbacker for the Chiefs? He is a big ****er with great physical potential and still learning his skill set.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 06:26 PM

I'm getting less interested in Ealy for the Chiefs. Don't think he has a place in our defense.

But hey, I said the same thing about Hali.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 06:34 PM

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn · 1h
UT OT Ja'Wuan James said Michael Sam was the best DE he played against this yr.

jonzie04 02-20-2014 07:30 PM

sounds like colt lyerla said all of the right things. I really hope he meant it and can have a successful career. he could be a pro bowler by year 2 in the chiefs offense. I've never seen a tight end run like him in the open field.

OldSchool 02-20-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 10443914)
NFL.com mocks show Ealy going after the Chiefs pick. Anybody else here see him as a potential rushbacker for the Chiefs? He is a big ****er with great physical potential and still learning his skill set.

Too stiff, IMO. He is a perfect fit as a 4-3 DE but he isn't quite athletic enough to play 3-4 OLB. He might be able to follow Justin Smith's footsteps and pack on weight and become a dominant 3-4 DE, but he doesn't have the natural speed to power conversion that Smith has so I don't know how good he'll be in that role. As for now though, he's a 4-3 DE.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-20-2014 11:42 PM

I like this thread.

**** Sac.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10443700)
Good stuff, may end up going around the 4-5th round if teams feel he is being truthful about everything. He has top talent, just red flags off the field will move him off of a lot of boards.

He's just gotta go undrafted. I can't see any team drafting Colt Lyerla.

Cocaine's just a world of hurt, and the guy needs help, not millions of dollars and world-class pressure.

Saccopoo 02-21-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10444425)
I like this thread.

**** Sac.

You ever go into a bar and everyone just looks like they are missing a chromosome?

I'm glad the short bus let you out at the correct stop.

(No offense to your thread Direckshun. You know I think you're aces for your draft proclivities. And I think it's nice you've become the Draft Planet's Farmer Ted.)

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-21-2014 08:20 AM

Johnny Manziel
5' 11 and 3/4" (expected)
205 (good)
9 and 7/8" hands (great)

Teddy Bridgewater
6' 2 and 1/4" (good)
214 (decent)
9 and 1/4" hands

Blake Bortles
6'5" (dumb)
232 (fat)
9 and 3/8" hands (inaccurate)

htismaqe 02-21-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10444613)
Blake Bortles
6'5" (dumb)
232 (fat)
9 and 3/8" hands (inaccurate)

ROFL

htismaqe 02-21-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443895)
I'm not an expert, but I don't think he'll have any trouble translating to guard at all.

Neither of us are "experts" but I'd like to think we know a little something when we watch a lot of these guys play often enough. :D

He looks like a guard to me, that's why I asked.

htismaqe 02-21-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10443921)
I'm getting less interested in Ealy for the Chiefs. Don't think he has a place in our defense.

But hey, I said the same thing about Hali.

See, I thought Hali could make the transition. Why? Because he played all over the line at Penn State. The guy proved he could move wherever the team needed him.

I had no idea he'd be as good a 3-4 OLB as he's become but I wasn't one of the ones that thought he was a lost cause.

There's so many things to like about Kony Ealy. I really think they would have to find a place for him if he were the target at #23.

O.city 02-21-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10444639)
See, I thought Hali could make the transition. Why? Because he played all over the line at Penn State. The guy proved he could move wherever the team needed him.

I had no idea he'd be as good a 3-4 OLB as he's become but I wasn't one of the ones that thought he was a lost cause.

There's so many things to like about Kony Ealy. I really think they would have to find a place for him if he were the target at #23.

Players like that seem to be ones who are so talented, you take them and fit your scheme to them not vice versa

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10444463)
You ever go into a bar and everyone just looks like they are missing a chromosome?

I'm glad the short bus let you out at the correct stop.

(No offense to your thread Direckshun. You know I think you're aces for your draft proclivities. And I think it's nice you've become the Draft Planet's Farmer Ted.)

Power to you, brother. YOLO.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10444613)
Johnny Manziel
5' 11 and 3/4" (expected)
205 (good)
9 and 7/8" hands (great)

Teddy Bridgewater
6' 2 and 1/4" (good)
214 (decent)
9 and 1/4" hands

Blake Bortles
6'5" (dumb)
232 (fat)
9 and 3/8" hands (inaccurate)

God, Bortles looks amazing.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:56 AM

http://walterfootball.com/combine2014weighinOL.php

2014 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Offensive Linemen
By Charlie Campbell

The consensus top-rated offensive lineman, Texas A&M left tackle Jake Matthews, checked in at 6-foot-5, 308-pounds with 33 3/8-inch arms. The height and weight are good numbers, and Matthews should have the ability to gain 10 pounds once he enters an NFL strength and conditioning program. His arms are a little short of ideal, but that shouldn't hold him back as a pro. It was good for Matthews that he didn't measure in smaller than his listed measurements from Texas A&M (6-5, 305).

Auburn left tackle Greg Robinson (6-5, 332) checked in 12 pounds heavier than his listed weight and at the exact height. As long as the extra weight isn't bad weight, Robinson should excel in the Combine drills because he has shown a rare combination of size and speed. With 35-inch arms, Robinson has the length block the edge as well. There are already projections of him passing Matthews as the first tackle selected, and that could become more common after the Combine.

There are some who believe that Alabama tackle Cyrus Kouandjio could rise up draft boards from the Combine. Kouandjio is a good athlete with nearly ideal measurements. At the weigh-in, he checked in at 6-foot-6, 322-pounds with long 35 5/8-inch arms. Kouandjio has the strength and athleticism to be a star in the Combine field work. Don't be surprised if he is a hot prospect in a week's time.

Both of the Tennessee offensive tackles showed excellent size at the weigh-in. Left tackle Antonio Richardson (6-6, 336) and right tackle Ju'wuan James (6-6, 311) both have 35-inch arms. Richardson enters the Combine as a potential first-round pick, while James could go early on Day 2.

Michigan left tackle Taylor Lewan measured out as 6-foot-7 and 309 pounds. Those are good numbers that are nearly identical to Eric Fisher (6-7, 306) last year. The only bad number for Lewan was short arms at 33 7/8 inches. Lewan looks steady as the third-rated offensive tackle in this draft class.

Stanford guard David Yankey (6-5, 315), who has 34-inch arms, has just about quality numbers for a guard. He should fit as a man or zone blocker in the NFL. If Yankey has a strong Combine, he could put himself in contention to be a late first-round pick.

Xavier Su'a-Filo (6-4, 307) definitely fits the body type of a guard. He played both tackle and guard at UCLA, but for the NFL, he would be best on the inside. The Bruins listed u'a-Filo at 6-foot-5, 315 pounds, so he's a little smaller than advertised. That only serves to reinforce the move to the inside.

USC center Marcus Martin (6-3, 320) is very heavy for a center. If he can show quickness and athletic ability in the field drills, that could help give his stock a boost. If Martin proves to be a slow plodder, he may have to move inside to guard.

Two tackles are in the running to be this year's Justin Pugh. He was a first-round pick of the Giants in the 2013 NFL Draft after being an undersized left tackle for Syracuse. Notre Dame's Zack Martin (6-4, 308) and Nevada's Joel Bitonio (6-4, 302) are nearly identical in size. Martin has very short arms, 32 7/8 inches, but that didn't hold him back in an excellent 2013 season or Senior Bowl performance. If Martin and Bitonio perform well at the Combine, they could solidify a first-round and second-day grade, respectively.

North Carolina left tackle James Hurst was significantly smaller than what the Tar Heels listed him at. Hurst was (6-5, 296) was two inches shorter and almost 15 pounds lighter than what North Carolina billed him as (6-7, 310). His arm length, 33 3/4 inches, is on the short side for tackles. Hurst broke his left leg in the Tar Heels' bowl game against Cincinnati, so he won't be a full participant in the Combine. Sources have told WalterFootball.com that they were projecting Hurst to the third round, but slipping to Day 3 is possible as Hurst has the body type more like a guard than a tackle.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:56 AM

Definitely one thing I forgot to note was Zack Martin's shortish arms. He'll have to translate to guard in the NFL, which probably means he'll fall to the top of the 2nd.

Hell of a guard for a team that needs one, though.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:57 AM

http://walterfootball.com/combine2014weighinTE.php

2014 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Tight Ends

By Charlie Campbell

North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron (6-4, 250) has added five pounds of muscle from his listed weight. Sources have told WalterFootball.com that Ebron is going to put on a show at the Combine. He is a gifted athlete, so that isn't hard to believe, and it wouldn't be surprising if Ebron is getting plenty of top-10 buzz after his workout in Indianapolis.

Texas Tech tight end Jace Amaro (6-5, 265) has good size, but was tied for the smallest hands of any tight end with Wisconsin's Jacob Pedersen. That shouldn't hurt Amaro significantly has he showed consistent hands with 106 receptions in 2013.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins has looked like a size, speed freak since his freshman season at Washington. He checked in at 6-foot-5, 262-pounds, which was just a tad smaller than his listed numbers (6-6, 266). It wouldn't be surprising if Seferian-Jenkins plays his NFL career around 270 since he dropped some weight for the Combine in an effort to help his 40 time.

Last summer, there were projections that Colt Lyerla would be the top tight end for the 2014 NFL Draft. Lyerla (6-4, 242) quit Oregon's football team in September and followed that up with a drug arrest. His size was in line with his listed measurements, and Lyerla is a good athlete who should stand out at the Combine. The big challenge for him will be in the interview rooms. Lylerla needs to impress there to get drafted.

Notre Dame tight end Troy Niklas (6-6, 270) hit his exact measurements, so no Catholic needs to confess to lying in confessional when it comes to measuring their football players. Niklas is a bit of sleeper behind the high-profile tight ends, but he could easily impress at the Combine.

USC tight end Xavier Grimble (6-4, 257) is another player who has the skill set to be a Combine star. Grimble has the speed and strength to impress in the field work. In a great class of tight ends, Grimble could be a steal.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 08:59 AM

Matthew Fairburn ‏@MatthewFairburn 12m

Got a chance to watch Greg Robinson prep for his 40-yard dash last night. He was as impressive as you would expect. Carries weight well.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 09:00 AM

Now that's advertising.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14m

adidas announces they're giving $100,000 to the player that runs the fastest 40 yard dash wearing their new adizero 5-star 40 cleat.

Direckshun 02-21-2014 09:01 AM

I haven't seen any weigh in figures at WR, yet. But some information is trickling out.

Brandon Cooks isn't quite 5'10". Both LSU receivers are under 6'0".


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