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Rain Man 09-01-2019 05:35 PM

Time to do our cutdowns to the 53-man roster.

Here is my final roster. I had some very painful cuts, which makes me happy. I've got some weaknesses, but I've got enough strengths that I had to cut some strong players.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick (Chargers)
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)

My depth is young and unproven, but my starter is very strong.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams
Lesean McCoy
Justin Jackson (Chargers)

I managed to turn this from a weakness into a powerhouse. I'm very happy with this group.

WR
Sammy Watkins
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)
James Washington (Steelers)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)

I need Watkins to have a good year. I've got young ascending guys who could turn this into a strong unit, but right now it's mediocre at best.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Isaac Nauta (Lions)
Caleb Wilson (Cardinals)

Kelce and two practice-squad rookies. I did this to myself. I'll be using lots of running backs and receivers.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs)
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

Schwartz is still out of position at LT, but he can do it and Moses is decent. Crosby is a backup LT. I'm fine here.

G
Cody Whitehair (Bears)
Michael Jordan (Bengals)
Andrew Wylie
Wyatt Teller (Browns)

Whitehair got moved to G, which surprised me. Jordan won a starting job as a rookie, and Wylie is a starter. Teller just got traded but is battling for a starting job. I'm in good shape here.

C
Austin Reiter

I thought Whitehair was my center, but he got moved. Reiter claims the starting spot. I'll be fine.

K
Harrison Butker
P
Dustin Colquitt
LS
James Winchester

Best specialist team ever.

FS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)

The guy's been a rock for me for a decade. He's good.

SS
Tyrann Matthieu
Jordan Poyer (Bills)

Got a nice free agent, which lets me use Poyer as swing depth. Poyer has started at both SS and FS.

CB
Desmond King (Chargers)
Marcus Peters (Rams)
Kendall Fuller
Bashaud Breeland

I'm strong here, though King and Fuller are both slot guys. I can make this group successful.

OLB
AJ Klein (Saints)
Damien Wilson
Anthony Hitchens
Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith (Steelers)

Well, I've got numbers on my side here. I keep trying to find playmakers here, but I'll settle for solid.

MLB
Zach Brown (Eagles)
Reggie Ragland
Ben Niemann

Zach Brown has been my guy forever. He'll do great.

DE
Alex Okafor
Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers)
Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys)
Taco Charlton (Cowboys)
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)

Still trying to put some ends on the field. Okafor is my starter on one side, and I think Nelson will be the other starter, though it could be Armstrong. Charlton has been a disappointing first-round pick, but he's holding a backup spot.

DT
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst (Raiders)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Joey Ivie

We're strong in the middle. Got a good combo of established veterans and young players.

My cuts are as follows. My tough final 10 percent of cuts are in green.

Spoiler!

kccrow 09-01-2019 10:34 PM

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Some tough decisions this year and this is a work in progress. I'm not happy with my D-line depth but overall I think the team is improving.

Post-Draft Moves:
Accept trade of UDFA CB Mark Fields to Minnesota Vikings for 2020 7th Round Pick
Accept trade of FA RB Carlos Hyde to Houston Texans for OL Martinas Rankin
Accept trade of 2020 6th Round Pick to New York Jets for LB Darron Lee

Draft Tab:
2020 1, 2, 2 f/SF (D. Ford), 3, 4, 5, 7
2021 Additional 7 f/MIN (M. Fields)


2019 Roster

OFFENSE (25)

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC)

I've been running 2 QBs for a few years now, so no change here with Mahomes being an ace.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC)

Still have a good solid stable of backs with Jones and Carson, both starters, and McCoy coming in.

FB - Anthony Sherman

The tank keeps on truckin.

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS)

Kept a practice squad guy I drafted in Mack over Blake Bell. Not much here outside of Kelce, but hoping the youngsters develop.

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS)

Went shy on the receivers this year. Boyd and Watkins are a solid 1-2. Higgins will do his normal solid contribution I'd think. Johnson looks like he might snag the #3 role in Minnesota, so I'm hopeful there. Went with Thompson on the PS in KC as #5 since I really had no other options outside of DAT. I think he'll develop and end up on the 53 at some point.

OT - Eric Fisher
OT - Mitchell Schwartz
OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)

Kept 3 tackles but Gray is on the PS in PIT. I kind of expected it because they like to take low-round lineman and develop them for a couple years, but they turn into studs quite often.

OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)

Connor McGovern being moved from G to C by the Broncos threw a huge wrench in my position group here, but Wylie will likely see action and Madison is developing. I'd start McGovern at G on my team. Rankin is a shot in the dark I'm going to keep for now, but I'm not too concerned given my depth on the interior overall.

OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN)
OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)
OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)

I took McCoy because I lacked confidence in Reiter long-term, but now I have 3 guys penciled in as starters to open the season at the position and Bozeman saw snaps last year in BAL. Either way, I have a ton of interior O-line depth and it made it hard to get rid of these guys, thus keeping 11 lineman, when 9 is usually my max.

DEFENSE (25)

DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS)

I failed to address D-line in the draft and now I could pay for it. I don't have a single starter on my squad unless Phillips unseats Lotulelei in Buffalo. All my other guys sans Sieler should see significant snaps. Sieler was a surprise cut and stash on the PS by BAL for me after there were talks he could compete to start during the offseason. That moves leaves me gasping for straws on the front.

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)

I'm fairly stacked at edge rusher with good veteran talent and good developmental talent behind them. Hopefully, it all works out but Ximines looked really good in the pre-season and so did Kpass. Since Houston was cut and not an expiring contract, I was able to keep him around and he'll start in Indy.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19)

I had to cut Blair Brown after his domestic battery crap and the Jags cutting him, which leaves me with KC's trash and Holcomb. Holcomb looked really solid in pre-season and I think he steals a starting position sooner than later in WAS.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC)

SF moving Moore to FS, his natural and college position, after an experimental year at CB changed the dynamic of my CB group but I did take Murphy in the 1st and he looks like he'll start by next year. Hill is on suspension to start the year but looked good in his opportunities last season. We know what the rest is. I hung onto Claiborne as depth.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

Bates is a stud and the Chiefs' addition of Mathieu helped. Moore moving to his natural FS spot and likely being the starter there gives me a deep group. Hooker looked like a baller in pre-season and Tennessee is gushing about him so far. Could go from crap at Safety to an absolute stud group in 2 years. Unlike with Houston, I let Berry walk. My spirit wasn't feeling him on this roster anymore.

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Dustin Colquitt
LS James Winchester

No sense in messing with greatness.

I don't have too many notable cuts, but I'll list the ones that either made the Chiefs roster or I drafted and cut this year.

DB Jordan Lucas - I made the trade w/MIA but just not roo
LB Ben Niemann - I love him on special teams but I had to keep talent elsewhere
DB Dan Sorensen - My safeties look good so he wasn't a must keep
RB Darrell Williams - McCoy buried him further down the depth-chart and I already have 2 starters.
LB Blair Brown - Drafted him in the 5th two years ago but he got cut after a domestic battery charge. I also showed him the door no matter what the result.
CB Tremon Smith - Drafted him just like KC but he's very expendable in his current role, which I doubt lasts much longer in KC either
WR Stacy Coley - Drafted him in the 6th two years ago but he couldn't stick with the Jets after his short stint in Minnesota, so project over.

Rain Man 09-01-2019 11:31 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention that I traded my 6th round pick next year for Darron Lee, and I too will take the Mark Fields trade since it was free for us.

kccrow 09-02-2019 09:30 PM

Just wanted to put together how I'm doing so far in this thing... Sure, some recent things will have to shake out. As it stands, looks like I'm pulling about 3 starting caliber players per draft and 1-2 backup/role players. That's not too bad. I still think Madison ends up a starting OG in GB at some point (this is essentially his rookie year) and I have pretty high expectations for my top 5 draft picks in 2019, especially the top 4, after their showing in preseason this year and I believe all become starters by year 2 or 3.

Draft Results Tracker to Date

Spoiler!

Rain Man 09-04-2019 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14421136)
Just wanted to put together how I'm doing so far in this thing... Sure, some recent things will have to shake out. As it stands, looks like I'm pulling about 3 starting caliber players per draft and 1-2 backup/role players. That's not too bad. I still think Madison ends up a starting OG in GB at some point (this is essentially his rookie year) and I have pretty high expectations for my top 5 draft picks in 2019, especially the top 4, after their showing in preseason this year and I believe all become starters by year 2 or 3.

You had me at Mahomes.

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kccrow 09-07-2019 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14423980)

:LOL:

Man, I was fully prepared to dump every draft resource that year to go up and get him if at all possible. Thankfully, the Chiefs did the smart thing and it allowed me to fill up my RB stable on top of it.

Rain Man 02-09-2020 08:00 PM

Okay, how did my team do this year? Not as good as Andy's, but that's fine.

On offense, I have pro bowl guys at QB, RB, and TE, and likely at LT. That makes for a solid offense. My WRs and one guard position were weak, but all in all it's a strong offense.

My defense isn't the same story. I've got a great backfield with two all pros at CB and SS, and solid starters and depth. But my front seven doesn't make a lot of splash plays. They're decent against the run, but can't generate pressure.

My special teams is great, of course.

All in all, I think this is a playoff team, but not a Super Bowl team. What do others think?


QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick (Chargers)
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)

Russell had a great year and was a pro bowler, and my backups sat on the bench, which is ideal. Maybe Stick will start next year since the Chargers need a QB. Peterman is out of the league, so I'll need a backup next year.


RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Damien Williams
Lesean McCoy
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)

Kamara had about 1,300 total yards and a pro bowl, so he was RB1. Damien has about 700 as my RB2 and he was great in big games. McCoy, Penny, and Jackson were good niche players, so this unit was very strong.

WR
James Washington (Steelers)
Sammy Watkins
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)

Washington and Watkins were a talented duo, though they underachieved my expectations (However, Watkins was a GREAT big-game WR). Harmon emerged from the pack as a rookie to become a serviceable #3. Isabella was a huge disappointment, as was Moncrief. This unit was shallow and moderately serviceable. I need a WR1 here.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Isaac Nauta (Lions)
Caleb Wilson (Cardinals)

Kelce is the best TE in the league and was a pro bowler. He's in essence my WR1. Nauta and Wilson were both rookies who were there to learn. Good starter, no depth.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz (Browns/Chiefs)
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

I continue to use Schwartz out of position at LT, but he can do it and is the best RT in the league (even though he wasn't a pro bowler). Moses is a dependable right tackle. Crosby is a backup LT. This is actually a pretty good unit.

G
Cody Whitehair (Bears)
Michael Jordan (Bengals)
Andrew Wylie
Wyatt Teller (Browns)

This unit is deep, but I need more quality. Whitehair is adequate, and the other three all got action, but none took the position. I need an upgrade here.

C
Austin Reiter

Reiter was great. A team could win a Super Bowl with Reiter at center.

K
Harrison Butker

Great clutch kicker. Should have been named to the pro bowl even if he didn't play in it.

P
Dustin Colquitt

Former MVP.

LS
James Winchester

Highly reliable. Messed up one snap all year.

FS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)

SS
Tyrann Matthieu

Poyer is a solid free safety, and Mathieu is an all pro at strong safety. No depth, but this is a good pair of starters. After nine years as a starter, Reshad Jones had an injury-plagued year and was in the tub for most of the season.

CB
Marcus Peters (Rams)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Kendall Fuller

Really good CB group. Peters was an all pro, and Breeland was a solid outside starter. King and Fuller are both great nickel backs. I like this group.

OLB
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Saints)
Jaylon Ferguson (Ravens)
Zach Brown (Eagles)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith (Steelers)

Not necessarily a strength, though they're generally functional. Wilson and Klein were consistent starters, and Ferguson is an ascending backup.

MLB
Anthony Hitchens
Reggie Ragland
Ben Niemann

We all know these guys. Hitchens on 1st and 2nd down, Niemann on 3rd down, and Ragland in short yardage. No stars, but functional.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton (Cowboys)
Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys)
Anthony Nelson (Buccaneers)

Boom! Odenigbo came out of nowhere to become a good pass rushing lineman. Okafor came in as a free agent and played well before his injury. Charlton is the best of an underachieving group of youngsters in the backup spots. I keep hoping for development here. This is a weak spot overall considering that Odenigbo is small for the position.

DT
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst (Raiders)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Joey Ivie

I have a solid but unspectacular rotation here. Billings and Williams are good starters, with Lotulelei rotating in and Hurst playing on passing downs. Overall, I think they're average for the league.

kccrow 02-14-2020 03:58 PM

Your defense is in far better shape overall than mine. I think you need more explosiveness at WR and a better pass rush, but looks like a solid roster that would be a playoff team.

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Matt Moore (FA/19 - KC)

Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and Moore saved the season. Can't do much better.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - LeSean McCoy (FA/19 - KC)

I had as dynamic of a 1-2-3 punch at running back as you could ask for. Jones led the way as my all-purpose back with 1,086 yards on the ground, 474 receiving and 19 total TDs. Carson was no slouch either, rushing for 1,230 yards and receiving for 266 more and 9 total TDs. McCoy was an early season producer but just icing on this rushing attack with 465 yards rushing, 181 receiving, and 5 TDs.

FB - Anthony Sherman

The tank keeps on truckin.

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - NO/PS)

Good thing Kelce was a 2nd team All-Pro because Yelder did little and Mack actually ended up on KC's practice squad.

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - KC/PS)

Boyd had another top-notch year for me with 1,046 yards and 5 TDs. Watkins came up big in big moments. My reliable #3 in Higgins turned into a bench warmer that may be on his way out in Cleveland. Thankfully, Johnson started producing this year as a rookie and finished with 31 receptions for 294 yards and 3 TDs. Thompson didn't make it in KC and ended up over in Seattle and is on a reserves/futures contract. I might need to add a couple guys this offseason.

OT - Eric Fisher
OT - Mitchell Schwartz
OT - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)

Fisher and Schwartz are a great duo. Gray spent the year on the practice squad and re-signed to a reserves/futures contract with Pittsburgh so all is not lost yet.

OG - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OG - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OG - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)

Bozeman moved from reserve center to starting LG in Baltimore this year and looks to be developing nicely. My late-round flier looks pretty solid at the moment. LDT had his moments but wasn't great. Wyle and Rankin are solid reserve guys. I'm not sure what will happen with Cole Madison, but his future is up in the air at the moment.

OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - DEN)
OC - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)

I have 3 starting centers on one roster, which really helps my depth and the ability to slide a guy to OG if need be. My 2nd round guy, McCoy, looked like he has the makings of a future All-Pro. McGovern is solid and Reiter is adequate.

DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Xavier Williams (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Joey Ivie (FA/18 - KC)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - BAL PS)

Losing Phillips the 3rd week of the season really hurt an already bad defensive line. Losing Xavier Williams made it almost unbearable. Watkins was a reserve that had 23 tackles and 1 sack. Ivie saw action in 3 games and didn't do a thing for Tennessee. Sieler ended up bouncing to Miami mid-year and ended up seeing action in 3 games, including 1 start, with 8 tackles and 1 sack. I have some major work to do here in the offseason.

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)

Houston continues to be a good player with 44 tackles and 11 sacks. Judon is much the same, just a terror on the edge with 54 tackles and 9.5 sacks. Okafor chipped in 22 tackles and 5 sacks, Ximines looked like he'll have a future with 25 tackles and 4.5 sacks, Kpass had 29 tackles and 4 sacks, and Okoronkwo got some field time in 10 games with 7 tackles and 1.5 sacks. I'm still doing more than fine on the edge, but Houston and Judon aren't getting any younger.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Reggie Ragland (t-BUF/17 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Darron Lee (t-NYJ/19)

We know this group, primarily. Highlighting my lone addition, Holcomb took over a starting ILB spot early this year and finished with 105 tackles and 1 sack. He's going to be solid for a while I think. Time to add around him.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Kendall Fuller (t-WAS/18)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - Morris Claiborne (FA/19 - KC)

Byron Murphy ended up starting and having 78 tackles, 10 pd, and 1 int in year one. He had his growing pains and was targeted alot, but taking that abuse and surviving as a rookie means he should only become better and better, especially working with Peterson. We had good returns from Breeland and Fuller resurrected the end of the season playing some safety. Hill didn't get to build much on his strong rookie year as he spent half the season suspended and finished with 13 tackles, 1 pd and 0 int. Depending on what happens with Breeland, I may need to add again early on this year.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

Bates was an absolute stud once again at FS with 100 tackles, 9 pd, and 3 int. Mathieu was the heart and soul at SS with 75 tackles, 2 sacks, 12 pd, and 4 int. Moore was a solid reserve with 3 starts and had 25 tackles and 3 pd. Hooker was also a reserve that finished with 19 tackles.

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Dustin Colquitt
LS James Winchester

We know this group, very good but Colquitt should probably be replaced.

Overall, my offense is nearly untouchable. Solid line. Great QB. Great running game. Pro-Bowl level WR1. All-Pro TE. It's pretty special.

Defensively, much to be desired. I had a strong pass rush and outstanding safeties, but everything in between was fairly devoid of talent. I can't complain too much about my LBs but an upgrade from Hitchens is needed. The defensive tackle position has to be addressed and CB could be better.

Honestly, I think this would be a Super Bowl team if I had better defensive tackles. I think teams would have gashed me inside.

Rain Man 02-16-2020 08:54 PM

Other than your defensive line, your team's a powerhouse, kccrow. You've been drafting really well.

chiefscafan 02-23-2020 11:24 AM

Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year


Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight



LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft


2015 Draft:

1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky

2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart

Don't do trade up in third

3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford

3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor

4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech

Accept Ben Grubs Trade

5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State

5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami

6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss

6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona

7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU

Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks



1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA

3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame

4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota

4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida

5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford

5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford

6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss

7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon


Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017

We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team


1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech

2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova

3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo

5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida

5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State

6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State

6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC

2018 Draft

2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn

3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama

4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan

5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah

6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas

6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama

7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia ����

7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU

7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State


2019 draft

2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR

2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB

2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT

2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB

2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB

2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG


QB

15 Pat Mahomes
8 Matt Moore
9 Kyle Shirmur

HB

28 Mark Ingram
27 Kareem Hunt
34 Darwin Thompson
31 Darrel Williams



FB
42 Sherman, Anthony



WR

14 Sammy Watkins
17 Mecloe Hardman
11 Demarcus Robinson
13 Byron Pringle
12 Gherig Dieter


87 Travis Kelce
81 Blake Bell


T


71 Mitchell Schwartz
78 La’el Collins
74 Martinas Rankin
69 Chad Wheeler



G

66 Jackson, Gabe
75 Bradley Bozeman
74 Ali Marpert
76 Lauren Duvernay-Tardif
61 Steven Wisnewski
65 Will Clapp

C

62 Austin Reiter
77 Nick AllGretti
65 Will Clapp



K
7 Harrison Butker

P
2 Dustin Colquit

LS

41 Winchester, james

FS

32 Tyrann Mathieu
22 Juan Thornhill
49 Daniel Sorrenson
23 Armani Watts

SS

36 Ronnie Harrison
32 Tyrann Mathieu


CB

33 Carlton Davis
35 Chavarius Ward
21 Bashaud Breeland
27 Rashad Fenton

OLB

48 Bud Dupree
43 AJ Klein
53 Anthony Hitchens
54 Damien Wilson


MLB

44 Myles Jack
59 Reggie Ragland
56 Ben Niemann

DE

57 Frank Clark
90 Emmanuel Ogbah
94 Terrell Suggs
52 Demone Harris

DT

73 Maurice Hurst
99 Khalen Saunders
64 Mike Pennel




IR

LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa
OT Jordan Mailata
DE. Breeland Speaks
DE. Tim Ward
WR. Joe Fortson
TE. John Lovett
WR. Marcus Kemp
DT. Caleb Brantley


Here you go final 53 man roster took a while but I did it. Collins at LT and Mitchell Schwartz at RT wish I would’ve drafted Eric fisher now but hindsight is 2020. Love my rbs plus my D is probably better than the chiefs. Too many guards If this were real sure my team would trade one of our four starting guards for a quality LT by now.

Draft needs RB, WR, LT, CB best draft was 2018 Davis, Harrison, hurst, Bozeman are all starters

kccrow 04-25-2020 11:12 PM

Don't know if I'll be around much for a while so I'm going to post this right away...

I come into this offseason with a serious need to add upper-echelon talents to the defensive line and depth at LB, CB, and WR.

Draft capital includes an extra 2nd round pick from the Dee Ford trade but no 6th or 7th round picks due to trading for Darron Lee and Jordan Lucas, leaving me with 1-32, 2-63, 2-64, 3-96, 4-138, and 5-177.

I made the decision not to do a pre-draft trade, which may be a blessing in disguise at this point. In any event, I will make an in-draft trade down sending my 3rd round pick #96 to the Chicago Bears for their 4th round pick #125, 5th round pick #163, and 7th round pick #226. The 96th pick is valued at 116 points and has a discounted value of 75.4 points. The Bears picks are worth 47, 26.2, and 1 point respectively, adding up to 74.2 points.

I don't accept the Chiefs trade of a 2021 6th for 7th round #237.

With that, here's the Superior Yetis Draft:

1-32 - DT Ross Blacklock, TCU (6'3" 290, HOU #40)
I had my eyes fixated on taking Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman Jr., or Brandon Aiyuk early on but doing so would put me in a difficult spot to get impact defensive tackles that I desperately need. Blacklock is a penetrating defensive lineman that can consistently push the pocket and make plays and was widely regarded as the 3rd rated defensive tackle in this draft. In the actual NFL, Blacklock should be an immediate starter at 3-4 DE opposite JJ Watt which should bode well for my team going forward.

2-63 (f/SF) - LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming (6'2" 241, CIN #65)
Unlike the Chiefs, I'm not hinging my hopes and prayers at LB to a guy that isn't smart and hasn't produced on the field. Instead, I'm going with a guy that has had outstanding production and a player most analysts have called the most complete linebacker in this draft. This isn't necessarily an immediate need with Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, and Cole Holcomb all starters, but improving over Hitchens and Wilson in the final year of his contract are certainly the biggest consideration here.

2-64 - DT Justin Madubuike, Texas A&M (6'3" 293, BAL #71)
After spending a 3rd round pick on Harrison Phillips at DT in 2018, he had a stellar rookie season only to tear his ACL early in 2019 and miss the year. I expected to have him back at least as a strong rotational player but the signings of Quinton Jefferson and Vernon Butler this offseason by the Bills has me concerned about Phillips so I basically have to find two starters in this draft. I'm going to bring in one of Mel Kiper's favorites here in Madubuike who may not start in 2020 and may marinate behind Derek Wolfe (1-year deal), but he should be in the mix immediately and become a starter in 2021 to, hopefully, give me outstanding bookends for my defensive front. Between Madubuike and Blacklock I should have myself a penetrating defensive front that can make plays.

4-125 (f/CHI) - WR Gabriel Davis, Central Florida (6'2" 216, BUF #128)
I have an obvious need at WR after Tyler Boyd and Sammy Watkins with a practice squad bandit in Cody Thompson, a current free agent in Rashad Higgins, and a roster bubble guy in Olabisi Johnson rounding out my corps, plus Watkins is a free agent after 2020. Davis is a guy that has an opportunity to immediately become a #3 receiver and eventually much more as he develops. This is a guy that can come in and push the field vertically as well as be a matchup problem as a big-bodied possession type but he will have to develop his route tree and route-running ability.

4-138 - CB L'Jarius Sneed, Louisiana Tech (6'0" 192, KC #138)
I had to go into this thing thinking about CB because my depth behind Breeland (on a 1-year deal) and Byron Murphy consists of Holton Hill and he may only be a 4th corner. Like the Chiefs, I was high on Sneed coming into this. I think Sneed projects as a CB on the next level and I think that's where KC will look to play him, but he also can be an interchangeable piece in the secondary and provide you with different looks. Sneed comes with alot of speed and is physical in the route, which I really think is something needed in a division now loaded with speed receivers.

5-163 (f/CHI) - ER Curtis Weaver, Boise State (6'2" 265, MIA #164)
When I originally made the trade down, my eyes were initially on another Boise State player, WR John Hightower. The problem is that Hightower is going to an extremely crowded receiver room and his career trajectory comes into question. Weaver is a guy, where you have to listen to Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah and agree that college sack production usually translates to the pro game and Weaver has it in spades. This isn't a guy that looks like he's a 34 sack guy, but he's got some good athleticism, multiple moves, and he bends at the top of his arc well. I think you put this guy into an NFL strength and conditioning program and they'll mold this kid's body and strength and he could be a sneaky good player in Miami's 3-4 as a stand-up edge rusher. I'm not hurting for pass rushers, but this is a guy I feel like is a day 2 pick that fell and is too good of a value.

5-177 - WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan (6'2" 212, CLE #187)
I needed to come into this draft probably looking for two receivers and preferably one early, but I'm coming out with both of them late. I just can't come out of this with only one receiver and have to hedge my bets. I'm hinging hopes to Peoples-Jones who I really like as an athlete and traits-based guy. He's an explosive player that can do a lot of things but he's not consistent. He should have a great opportunity in Cleveland to put himself into the #3 role behind Landry and Beckham, Jr, and eventually become more should Cleveland unlock his incredible potential.

7-226 (f/CHI) - CB Thakarius "Bopete" Keyes, Tulane (6'1" 202, KC #237)
My CB room is depleted as noted in the Sneed pick, so going after multiple guys there is important. I really liked Keyes as a sleeper prospect and was thrilled when the Chiefs moved a 2021 6th for the rights to snag him in the 7th. I don't have to make the same move here, having a perfectly slotted pick from my trade down to take him a bit earlier. Keyes is another in-your-face CB with size and athleticism that may help the secondary moving forward.


Preliminary Roster (add UDFAs later)

Spoiler!

Rain Man 04-26-2020 08:46 PM

Okay, here are our picks in general. Figure out what you've got to work with.

#1-32
#2-63 - If Dee Ford was on your roster and you accepted the trade last year, you get this pick. If both of those things aren't true, you don't get the pick.
#2-64 - If you rejected the Frank Clark trade, you get this pick. If you accepted the Frank Clark trade, you don't get it.
#3-96
#4-138
#5-177
#6-211 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Darron Lee trade, OR if Darron Lee was not on your roster when you started playing.
#7-237 - You get this pick if you accept the draft day trade to give up the Chiefs' 2021 6th round pick.
#7-246 - You get this pick if you did not accept the Jordan Lucas trade, OR if Jordan Lucas was not on your roster when you started playing.

Rain Man 04-26-2020 08:48 PM

As for me, here are my picks.

#1-32
#2-64
#3-96
#4-138
#5-177

I'm rejecting the draft day trade, and I had accepted the Lee and Lucas trades. I rejected the Frank Clark trade.

I have more needs than this, so I'm going to ponder a trade down. Stay tuned.

Rain Man 04-26-2020 11:43 PM

Without further ado, here is my 2020 draft.

#1-32. Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)

The first round fell in a way that didn't work great for my needs. I've got volume at DE already, but don't have high-level production. So Gross-Matos is my guy.

Other considerations: Delpit at SS, Trade down with the Bills to get Epenesa (DE), Wanogho (OT), and Derrek Tuszka (LB), or Trade down with the Jets to get Ashtyn Davis (FS), Troy Dye (ILB), and Bryce Hall (CB).

#2-64 - Zach Baun, LB (Saints)

I really have trouble finding linebackers. I figured Baun would go earlier, so he seemed like a great value here.

Other considerations: I didn't seriously consider anyone other than Baun. I briefly considered Cushenberry (C), and Gallimore (DT).

#3-96 - Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

I looked at other players, but our own Niang rose to the top considering my need for a guard.

Other considerations: I strongly considering trading down with the Jets to take Troy Dye and Bryce Hall, which then would have freed up my 4th rounder to take Bredeson (G), who I liked. But I'm pretty sure Niang will be starting and I wasn't sure about the other guys. I also considered Malik Harrison, Akeem Davis-Gaither, and Tyre Phillips.

#4-117 - Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders).

I was really interested in a couple of guys here, Robertson and Ben Bredeson. I was really torn on those two. I also considered Bryce Hall (CB) and Curtis Weaver (DE).

#5-138 - Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns).

He was really the only guy I seriously considered here. I need some WR talent and he seemed to be a good value here.

My only other consideration here was Prince Tega Wanogho, but it wasn't a serious consideration.

Rain Man 04-27-2020 09:33 AM

Looks like we both thought Peoples-Jones went too low, kccrow. I made my picks without looking at yours.

kccrow 04-27-2020 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14938840)
Looks like we both thought Peoples-Jones went too low, kccrow. I made my picks without looking at yours.

Agreed. He was the guy I wanted Veach to snag in the 5th. He has a great opportunity in Cleveland though.

Like your pick of Gross-Matos. If I wasn't locked into having to fix my defensive line, he's a guy I would have strongly considered at 32.

chiefscafan 04-27-2020 10:29 PM

Ok according to non trades I never got Lucas or lee so I have both picks



LA Cobras:



2020 NFL Draft



1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU

2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming

3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU

4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb

5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan

6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State

7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane

7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU

Drioss 05-26-2020 03:09 PM

Thank you for sharing!

wazu 09-05-2020 03:12 PM

Ugh I never did my draft. I'll just take what the Chiefs did as default if that's okay. Like many I was going through a tough time a few months ago. Meant to get it figured out before camp as per rules.

kccrow 09-06-2020 07:45 AM

https://i.ibb.co/bFRj6Rh/superior-ye...ps07cnpbb5.png

2020 ROSTER

I feel good heading into the season with this crew.

I'm thin at RB after Jones and Carson with Washington getting cut, so we'll see what happens between now and Thursday but at the moment I need to hope Washington catches on somewhere. I'm secretly hoping Veach snags Kerrith Whyte from Pittsburgh on waivers...

I think my additions on the defensive line should pay some dividends. Reports are that Phillips is looking solid in his return from a torn ACL and Blacklock has been a menace in Texans camp. If Madubuike can get some solid time in Baltimore as well as Sieler in Miami, I'll be looking much better there.

I'm a bit disappointed that Curtis Weaver got injured/waived then picked up by Cleveland. If he pays any dividends, it wouldn't be likely until 2022 so I cut ties with a 5th rounder early. I also felt ok with making big-boy cuts on the O-line with guys like Remmers and Reiter, as well as on the edge with Okafor because of my overall depth. Let go of some draft picks too, but I'm okay with it.

OFFENSE

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC)

FB - Anthony Sherman

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC)
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC)

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE)

OL - Eric Fisher
OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)
OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC)
OL - Mitchell Schwartz
OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ)
OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)
OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC)
OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif

DEFENSE

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU)
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)

ER - Justin Houston (IND)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC)

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN)

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN)
CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC)

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester



CUTS

P Dustin Colquitt
TE - Deon Yelder (FA/19 - KC)
TE - Alize Mack (#6-214/19 - KC/PS)
WR - Cody Thompson (CF/19 - SEA)
OL - Cole Madison (#4-122/18 - GB)
OL - Derwin Gray (#6-201/19 - PIT/PS)
ER - Alex Okafor (FA/19 - KC)
ER - Curtis Weaver (#5-163/20 - CLE)
OL - Austin Reiter (FA/18 - KC)
DB - Tedric Thompson (FA/20 - KC)
CB - Antonio Hamilton (FA/20 - KC)
OL - Mike Remmers (FA/20 - KC)

Rain Man 09-06-2020 07:01 PM

Okay, here's my 2020 roster. I've got a lot of depth issues due to covid opt outs and other oddities, but here goes.

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Jordan Ta'amu

Great starter, and completely unproven depth.

RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams

We're good here, though Damien is out for the year and Penny is on the PUP until Week 7. We'll be running very light until he comes back.

WR
Sammy Watkins
James Washington (Steelers)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)

We've got good speed at the starting positions and Harmon in the slot. Andy Isabella was a second-round pick who got buried in the depth chart and appears to be headed toward bust status. But we'll give him another season.
Peoples is a rookie, so hopefully one of them takes a step forward this year. It's not a dominating group here.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Ricky Seals-Jones

We're very light at TE since I had no one on the roster other than these two. They're good, though.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

Same tackle group I've been running with for years. They're good.

OG
Keliechi Osemele
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Andrew Wylie
Michael Jordan
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

I've got four NFL starting guards, so my depth is good. I think this group is adequate but not strong. Niang is obviously taking a gap year.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Reiter, OL

Whitehair moves back to his original position, so I've got good talent and depth with two NFL starters.

K
Harrison Butker

Best kicker in the league.

P
Tommy Townsend

It's not Colquitt so I don't know what to say.

LS
James Winchester

Best long snapper in the league.

FS
Tyrann Matthieu

Having to move Matthieu back to FS since I had no one on the roster. He can handle it.

SS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Tedric Thompson

Poyer is a good strong safety. Thompson is our only depth on the roster, so let's hope we stay healthy here.

CB
Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Desmond King (Chargers)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Antoniio Hamilton
Bashaud Breeland

Yeah, he's a jerk, but he's my #1 CB. King is a good player, and until Breeland comes back we're going to be relying on a rookie and Hamilton. Not terrible, but depth is worrisome.

OLB
Jaylon Ferguson
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Ben Niemann

We're reworking OLB with Ferguson taking the starting spot. Baun is a rookie on the learning curve, and the other three are all serviceable. At long last I've got a reasonable OLB crew, though they're not dominant.

ILB
Anthony Hitchens

No depth here, but Niemann could move over in a pinch. Adequate starter, though not dominating.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton
Anthony Nelson
Dorance Armstrong

Lots of depth, but they're all NFL backups. Every one of them. I'm hoping Gross-Matos moves up since he's a rookie. We're notably subpar here despite continual investment in the position.


Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Maurice Hurst
Tershawn Wharton
Mike Pennel
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)

Billings and Lotulelei both opted out of the season, and Pennel is suspended. We've actually still got a decent core with Brandon Williams and Maurice Hurst starting until Pennel gets back. We've got the super Miner rookie on the squad as well.

Free agent losses:
Lesean McCoy
Reggie Ragland (Chiefs)
Kendall Fuller

Cuts:
Nathan Peterman (Raiders)
Matt Moore
Elijah McGuire
Deandre Washington
Donte Moncrief (Jaguars)
Isaac Nauta
Caleb Wilson
Mike Remmers
Martinas Rankin
Yasir Durant
Daniel Kilgore
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Darron Lee
Sutton Smith
Zach Brown (Titans)
Demone Harris
Joey Ivie, NT

My cuts weren't really hard this year. Remmers and Durant prompted some thought, but that's about it.

I tip my hat to Reshad Jones and Zach Brown and wish them the best in retirement. Those guys were mid-round picks who were on my team forever. Donte Moncrief was good value for mid-round pick as well.

Rain Man 09-06-2020 07:03 PM

Overall, I'd say my offense is really good, albeit thin on depth this year. My defensive backfield is good, but again thin on depth. My front seven on defense remains underwhelming other than adequate defensive tackles.

kccrow 01-16-2021 08:04 PM

Yeti's 2020 Performance

OFFENSE

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) 66.3% 4,740 yds 38 td 6 int - Not too worried about this position am I.
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) 73.7% 248 yds 2 td 0 int - He's nothing but a middling backup behind an amazing QB so it's whatever.

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) 201 car 1,104 yds 9 td 47 rec 355 yds 2 td - Feature back for an NFC title contender, nuff said.
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) 141 car 681 yds 5 td 37 rec 287 yds 4 td - Lead back for the Seachickens, hell of a #2.
RB - De'Andre Washington (FA/20 - KC) 31 car 91 yds 0 td 5 rec 30 yds 0 td - Finished out the year with Miami but might need to invest in a #3

FB - Anthony Sherman 3 car 8 yds 0 td 1 rec 5 yds 1 td - He's just the same old guy, just block baby.

TE - Travis Kelce 105 rec 1,416 yds 11 td - Best TE in football
TE - Ricky Seals-Jones (FA/20 - KC) - Dud
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) 6 rec 63 yds 0 td - Blocking backup, I probably need to invest in a solid #2

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) 79 rec 841 yds 4 td - Slump of a year for my #1 guy
WR - Sammy Watkins (FA/18 - KC) 37 rec 421 yds 2 td - time to upgrade
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) 14 rec 189 yds 0 td - he's a 5th string guy not sure I expect more
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) 35 rec 599 yds 7 td - Stepped up as a rookie and became a starter, could be a steal
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) 37 rec 599 yds 4 td - Had a solid year as a #3 type
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) 14 rec 304 yds 2 td - Expected him to be a returner but he really wasn't, could end up being worth something as a WR though in a year or 2.

OL - Eric Fisher - 15 game starter at LT for KC
OL - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) - 16 game starter at LG for BAL
OL - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) - 16 game starter at OC for NO
OL - Kelechi Osemele (FA/20 - KC) - 5 game starter before injury, probably need to replace
OL - Mitchell Schwartz - 6 game starter at RT before injury, worried I have to replace my stud RT.
OL - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) - 16 game starter at OC and G for the Jets
OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) - 14 game starter at RG for the Chiefs
OL - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) - 1 start in wk 17, backup
OL - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 start in wk 17 with some action in a couple other games, backup with some potential to stick
OL - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - Year off for COVID, probably need to start looking at RG a bit even with McGovern

DEFENSE

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 1 tfl 2 qbh - I expected alot more of my top investment so hopeful 2021 is a big year
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) - 3 gs 19 tkl, 2 tfl, 2 qbh, 1 sk - Baltimore started working him more as the season went on, could be a big contributor in 2021.
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) - 3 gs 18 tkl, 4 qbh - Looking more like his old self as the season wore on in his return year from injury. Hoping he steps up in 2021.
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - HOU) - 11 gs 27 tkl, 4 tfl, 2 qbh, 2 sks - Took on a more prominent role in 2020 in his 4th yr. We'll see what comes of his future.
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) - 8 gs 48 tkl, 11 tfl, 11 qbh, 3.5 sks - Took on a big role since arriving in Miami last year. He should continue to grow and good production from a 7th rounder.
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) - 1 gs 14 tkl, 4 tfl, 4 qbh, 2 sk - More production than my 1st round pick as a rookie. I have tempered expectations but he's a role player to keep around

ER - Justin Houston (IND) - 16 gs 25 tkl, 8 tfl, 12 qbh, 8 sks - Continues to be a productive edge rusher at 32.
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - BAL) - 13 gs 32 tkl 9 tfl 21 qbh 6 sks - Always the solid disruptor and producer on the edge.
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) - 3 gs 5 tkl 3 1 tfl 3 qbh - Disappointing year from Ximines, shoulder injury in October
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - KC) - 15 gs 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 sk - Disappointing production from a 15 game starter, With Houston's age, might be time to spend a resource here again
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) - 12 tkl 1 tfl 3 qbh 1 sk - Some production but no starts. A 5th round swing not looking like much 2 years in.
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) - 7 tkl 1 tfl 4 qbh 2 sks - Looked okay in 7 games before being injured. Not sure if he has a future here though.

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) - 14 gs 78 tkl 2 tfl 4 qbh 1 pd - Remains a subpar ILB I can hopefully replace.
LB - Damien Wilson (FA/19 - KC) - 13 gs 73 tkl 3 tfl 1 pd - A middling SLB that is ok in his role but certainly upgradable.
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) - 10 gs 72 tkl 6 tfl 4 qbh 2.5 sk 1 pd - A good player at ILB that looked like a stud in bloom but an injury early set him back some. Going to be good for years though
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) - 2 gs 33 tkl 4 tfl 2 qbh 1 sk 3 pd 2 int - Productive in a limited role as a rookie and has shown promise especially in pass defense.

CB - Bashaud Breeland (FA/19 - KC) - 11 gs 38 tkl 1 tfl 9 pd 2 int - Came back from suspension as good as ever. Might need to replace him if he's let go in FA.
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) - 7 gs 51 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 2 sk 8 pd - Solid in a more limited role in year 2. Disappointed some in a 1st round investment to date though
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - MIN) - 2 gs 24 tkl 1 sk 3 pd - 8 game suspension then was waived in December so not sure about his future.
CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) - 6 gs 41 tkl 2 tfl 3 qbh 2 sk 7 pd 3 int - looks like a stud in the making as a rookie, too bad injury set him back in the middle 8 games of the yr
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) - 1 gs 8 tkl - A special teamer until week 17. We'll have to see if he grows. I probably need an investment at CB this year.

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) - 16 gs 109 tkl 2 tfl 1 qbh 15 pd 3 ints - Bates is a verified stud, that's all there is to it.
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) - 15 gs 62 tkl 3 tfl 2 qbh 9 pd 6 int - Huge year in the turnover department for Mathieu and he's a great leader for this D.
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) - 8 gs 52 tkl 1 tfl 1 pd - Still not sure what I have with Moore but he showed more growth as a FS than CB.
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) - 3 gs 51 tkl 1 tfl 8 pd 4 ints - Hooker continued to grow in year 2 and looks like a starter for 2021 at SS.

K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) - 48/54 xp was disappointing but righted the ship later in the year. 25/27 fg with 4 over 50 yards. A top kicker.
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) - 52 pnt for 2,339 yds good for a 45.0 average. Solid NFL punter that doesn't break the bank.
LS James Winchester - Hes a long snapper that long snaps like a long snapper should so umm yeah.


Needs: DT1, RT, RG, SLB, TE2, WR2/3, CB1, ER, QB2, RB3

Rain Man 03-03-2021 01:42 AM

Okay, let's see how my roster did in 2020. I had pro bowlers or all-pros at QB, HB, TE, OG, and FS, and my WR and DE positions were disasters. I think I would have fielded a reasonable playoff team, but I would have been victimized by a mediocre front seven and a lack of WRs.


QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Jordan Ta'amu

Grade: A
Pro bowl starter who kept the backups on the bench all season.


RB
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)
Damien Williams

Grade: A
Pro bowl starter with about 1,700 yards from scrimmage. Jackson was a good change of pace back. The other two guys were mostly hurt or out for Covid.

WR
Sammy Watkins
James Washington (Steelers)
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)

Grade: F
My leading receiver had slightly more than 400 yards. That's unacceptable.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Ricky Seals-Jones

Grade: A
Pro bowl TE with not much depth behind him. But it's Travis Kelce, so it's a win.

OT
Mitchell Schwartz
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)

C+
Schwartz got hurt, but Moses is a rock at RT and Crosby got 11 starts. This was acceptable.

OG
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Andrew Wylie
Keliechi Osemele
Michael Jordan
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

Grade: B
Teller emerged as a second-team all-pro, so he solidified one spot. Wylie and Jordan were starters and Osemele played well until he got hurt. I actually was okay here.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Reiter, OL

Grade: B+
Whitehair moved back to center and Reiter also started a lot. Good pair of centers here.

K
Harrison Butker

Grade: A
Butker!

P
Tommy Townsend

Grade: D
I don't think he replaced Colquitt the way I hoped.

LS
James Winchester

Grade: A
Best long snapper in the league.

FS
Tyrann Matthieu

Grade: A
No depth, but a pro bowl starter. I'll take it.

SS
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Tedric Thompson

Grade: B
Poyer is a pretty good safety. This is not an area of weakness.

CB
Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Antoniio Hamilton

Grade: B
Peters missed the pro bowl, but he and Breeland are strong starters with King in the slot.


OLB
Damien Wilson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Jaylon Ferguson
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Ben Niemann

Grade: C-
Wilson and Klein are reliable but not impact players. Ferguson and Baun have not stepped up to claim starter jobs.

ILB
Anthony Hitchens

Grade: C
Same as the OLBs. Serviceable but not a game changer.

DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Alex Okafor
Taco Charlton
Anthony Nelson
Dorance Armstrong

Grade: D-
Pretty much a bunch of backups. Odenigbo got a starting job but didn't dominate. I need someone to step up here.

DT
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Tershawn Wharton
Mike Pennel
Maurice Hurst
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Star Lotulelei (Bills)

Grade: C-
Williams played well, but he's my only true starter. Wharton and Pennel played well, so I'm serviceable. It's kind of a win since Billings and Lotulelei both sat out due to covid.

chiefscafan 03-23-2021 11:29 PM

Ok catching up my roster I’ll take all free agents and our draft last year


Also Frank Clark trade I’ll update rest tonight







2020 NFL Draft



1:32. Ross Blacklock DT TCU

2:63. Logan Wilson. ILB. Wyoming

3:98. Lucas. Niang OT TCU

4:138. LJarus Sneed S/cb

5:177. Mike Danna. DE. Michigan

6:211. KJ Hill. WR. Ohio State

7: 237. Bo Pete Keyes CB. Tulane

7:246. Thaddeus Moss. TE LSU

LA Cobras Roster ready for 2017 Draft


2015 Draft:

1-18: OLB Bud Dupree Kentucky

2-49: OG. Ali Marpet Hobart

Don't do trade up in third

3-80: WR. Ty Montgomery Stanford

3-98: QB Bryce Petty Baylor

4-117: WR Dandre Smelter Georgia Tech

Accept Ben Grubs Trade

5-172: DE/DT Michael Bennett Ohio State

5-173: DE Anthony Chickillo Miami

6-200: DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches Southern Miss

6-217: WR Austin Hill Arizona

7-233: OT La'el Collins LSU

Ok I had kelcie McCray but I accepted the trade to seattle. I'm also gonna accept the bucs trade down so here are my picks



1-28 (28th): Myles Jack ILB/OLB UCLA

3-11 (74th): Kivaree Russel CB Notre Dame

4-8 (106th): Eric Muarry CB/S Minnesota

4-28 (126th): Demarcus Robinson WR Florida

5-25 (162nd): Kevin Hogan QB Stanford

5-28 (165th): Kyle Murphy OT Stanford

6-28 (203rd): Mike Thomas WR Southern Miss

7-28 (249th: Vernon Adams QB Oregon


Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017

We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team


1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech

2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova

3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo

5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida

5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State

6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State

6th: OT:Chad Wheeler USC

2018 Draft

2:52: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn

3:86: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama

4:122: Maurice Hurst , NT, Michigan

5:159: Kyle Fitts, DE, Utah

6:196: Tremon Smith, CB, Central Arkansas

6:209: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama

7:233: Jordan Mailata, OT, Australia ����

7:240: Will Clapp, OC, LSU

7:243: Hercules Mata’afa, DT/DE\OLB, Washington State


2019 draft

2019 2 Mecole Hardman WR

2019 2 Juan Thornhill. S CB

2019 3 Khalen Saunders DT

2019 6 Rashad Fenton. CB

2019 6 Darwin Thompson. RB

2019 7 Nick Allegretti. OG


QB

15 Pat Mahomes
8 Matt Moore
9 Kyle Shirmur

HB

28 Mark Ingram
27 Kareem Hunt
31 Darrel Williams



FB
42 Sherman, Anthony



WR

14 Sammy Watkins
17 Mecloe Hardman
11 Demarcus Robinson
13 Byron Pringle
84 KJ. Hill


87 Travis Kelce
81 Blake Bell


T

71 Mitchell Schwartz
78 La’el Collins
74 Martinas Rankin
68 Jordan Maliata



G

66 Jackson, Gabe
75 Bradley Bozeman
74 Ali Marpert
61 Steven Wisnewski


C

62 Austin Reiter
77 Nick AllGretti
67 Daniel Kilgore

K
7 Harrison Butker

P
2 Dustin Colquit

LS

41 Winchester, james

FS

32 Tyrann Mathieu
22 Juan Thornhill
49 Daniel Sorrenson
23 Armani Watts

SS

36 Ronnie Harrison
32 Tyrann Mathieu


CB

33 Carlton Davis
35 Chavarius Ward
27 Rashad Fenton
38 Ladarius Snead
48 Bo Pete Keyes
30 Dandre Baker

OLB

44 Myles Jack
48 Bud Dupree
54 Damien Wilson


MLB


53 Anthony Hitchens
56 Logan Wilson

DE

57 Frank Clark
94 Taco Charlton
91 Tim Ward
52 Demone Harris

DT

90 Ross Blacklock
98 Tervarious Wharton
73 Maurice Hurst
99 Khalen Saunders
64 Mike Pennel




IR

LB / DE Hercules Mata’afa
OT Jordan Mailata
DE. Breeland Speaks
DE. Tim Ward
WR. Joe Fortson
TE. John Lovett
WR. Marcus Kemp
DT. Caleb Brantley

Kellerfox 04-17-2021 02:08 PM

Hello - prospective expansion franchise owner here. Thinking about setting this up tonight or tomorrow. Beyond the rules in the OP, any advice from you seasoned veterans?

kccrow 04-18-2021 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 15632438)
Hello - prospective expansion franchise owner here. Thinking about setting this up tonight or tomorrow. Beyond the rules in the OP, any advice from you seasoned veterans?

It would be great if you did. Not many of us anymore. It's a fun exercise in that it provides some perspective on recoginizing talent year-over-year.

You end up needing to fill holes in your roster every season, sometimes surprising, and it tests you. I planned on going into this season looking to probably add more juice to my pass rush again, add a big-play WR, and so on, and now the Chiefs throw me a stud LG when I'm already pretty stout on the interior and leave me with no plan at OT. So, there are things like that where you think you're putting together a great roster and then you lose guys that you inherited to start.

Just keep drafting the best you can, trying to plan ahead for what the Chiefs will likely lose to FA that you will also lose while filling the holes. It definitely helps if you can hit on some of those mid-round guys in the 3rd-5th. It's strengthened my roster quite a bit at positions like WR, RB, and S. A year like this, where we'll have extra mid-rounders again, I'll probably do the same as I have in some other situations and throw two darts at the same position, hoping I hit on one of the two. Last year I did it with WR and hit on Davis while Peoples-Jones doesn't look so hot. I threw 2 picks at RB in 2017 in the 5th and 7th and hit on both... so you never know.

You get a bit of a benefit of hindsight in terms of where players end up going in the draft, but it's still on you to pick the right guys, and that's the fun in it for me.

Kellerfox 04-18-2021 10:51 AM

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Inaugural Press Conference

GM Kellerfox: “greetings fellow football aficionados of Chiefs Planet. Today, I am pleased to introduce to you the Tacoma Trash Pandas.”

(Curtain drops on the stage behind Kellerfox revealing a massive Racoon logo)

“The new expansion franchise is backed by a core investment group led by MacKenzie Scott (wanting to one-up her ex-husband Jeff Bezos by owning an NFL franchise first), Bill Gates, Tony Parker, and the estate of late rapper DMX.”

Building on Scott’s and Gates’s philanthropic backgrounds, the team has decided to locate in Tacoma, WA in an effort to spurn economic development and opportunity in Washington’s “forgotten” big city. Tacoma is largely comprised of hard working blue collar individuals, and our bargain-bin market analysis suggests that some of them may be football fans. Give the amount of “f**k you” money our two leads have, they elect to build the new stadium 100% through private funding. Although neither one does it for the press or publicity, their marketing teams quietly ensure the club gets full credit and recognition for their “generous donation” into the community.

Kellerfox 04-18-2021 11:08 AM

Inaugural Roster
(work in progress - I know I’m over the 53 limit, will cut down before the season)

QB:
Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Chad Henne (Chiefs)
Jordan Ta’Amu (Chiefs)

RB:
Clyde Edwards-Helaire(Chiefs)
Darrel Williams (Chiefs)
Darwin Thompson (Chiefs)

FB:
Michael Burton (Chiefs)

WR:
Tyreek Hill (Chiefs)
Mecole Hardman (Chiefs)
Demarcus Robinson (Chiefs)
Byron Pringle (Chiefs)
Marcus Kemp (Chiefs)
Antonio Callaway (Chiefs)
Jody Fortson (Chiefs)
Tajae Sharpe (Chiefs)
Chad Williams (Chiefs)

TE:
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Nick Keizer (Chiefs)
Blake Bell (Chiefs)

OT:
Lucas Niang (Chiefs)
Mike Remmers (Chiefs)
Martinas Rankin (Chiefs)
Prince Tega Wango (Chiefs)
Yasir Durant (Chiefs)

OG:
Joe Thuney (Chiefs)
Kyle Long (Chiefs)
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (Chiefs)
Andrew Wylie (Chiefs)

OC:
Austin Blythe (Chiefs)
Nick Allegretti (Chiefs)
Darryl Williams (Chiefs)

———————-

DT:
Chris Jones (Chiefs)
Jarran Reed (Chiefs)
Khalen Saunders (Chiefs)
Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs)
Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs)

DE:
Frank Clark (Chiefs)
Taco Charlton (Chiefs)
Mike Danna (Chiefs)
Tim Ward (Chiefs)
Demone Harris (Chiefs)

OLB:
Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs)
Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs)
Darius Harris (Chiefs)
Omari Cobb (Chiefs)

ILB:
Anthony Hitchens (Chiefs)
Ben Niemann (Chiefs)

CB:
L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs)
Charvarius Ward (Chiefs)
Rashad Fenton (Chiefs)
De’Andre Baker (Chiefs)
Bopete Keyes (Chiefs)
Chris Lammons (Chiefs)

FS:
Juan Thornhill (Chiefs)
Armani Watts (Chiefs)

SS:
Tyrann Mathieu (Chiefs)
Daniel Sorensen (Chiefs)

———————-

P:
Tommy Townsend (Chiefs)

K:
Harrison Butker (Chiefs)

LS:
James Winchester (Chiefs)

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Draft Outlook

GM Kellerfox: “As an expansion franchise we are excited to be given the honor and opportunity to jumpstart our franchise with the #1 overall pick...”

(Assistant taps me on the shoulder and tells me, in whispered tones, that we are not being provided the same draft luxuries as past expansion franchises like the Texans and Jaguars. Instead, we have been given the Chiefs draft picks because the NFL has decided that having Patrick Mahomes is just unfair from a competitive standpoint, and as a results, the Chiefs are not allowed any more draft picks for the duration of Mahomes career. Instead, the Tacoma Trash Pandas will be gifted their picks annually. This kills two birds with one stone as Roger Goodell and his team don’t have to adjust the overall structure of the draft and can leave it at 32 picks per round).


Current Draft Picks:
#1-31
#2-63
#3-94
#4-136
#4-144
#5-175
#5-181
#6-207

Team Needs: Reviewing our roster, it appears that we don’t have a starting LT and desperately need an OLB, and WR #2. Looking forward a year, ILB and DE are also causing us heartburn.

***may be a mistake starting off, but thinking I will execute my one trade down and one trade up to maximize my number of 2nd and 3rd round picks. I’ll work out my proposal and share in a few days to confirm I am correctly interpreting the rules.**

Rain Man 04-18-2021 08:38 PM

Welcome to the game, kellerfox! This has been a fun long-term hobby.

Just to prepare, any current Chief who leaves the team as a free agent will also leave our teams. If a guy is cut, you can opt to keep him.

Kellerfox 04-20-2021 11:14 PM

After mulling it over for a few days - I’m going to stay put with my picks pre-draft.

I was really tempted to bundle #175, #181, and #207 for Washington’s #124 (mid-4th) to increase my odds of getting an extra “hit.” If I wait until after the draft, I should still be able to use those KC picks to get to #131 or #132. Not that much of a difference - I’ll see how the board plays out.

Im also super paranoid about adjusting my draft capitol now and then being precluded from a Draft day trade or a player acquisition (like Orlando Brown). I have to figure that out, and if Veach is moving and shaking, that’s going to be the best answer.

kccrow 04-20-2021 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 15637625)
After mulling it over for a few days - Iím going to stay put with my picks pre-draft.

I was really tempted to bundle #175, #181, and #207 for Washingtonís #124 (mid-4th) to increase my odds of getting an extra ďhit.Ē If I wait until after the draft, I should still be able to use those KC picks to get to #131 or #132. Not that much of a difference - Iíll see how the board plays out.

Im also super paranoid about adjusting my draft capitol now and then being precluded from a Draft day trade or a player acquisition (like Orlando Brown). I have to figure that out, and if Veach is moving and shaking, thatís going to be the best answer.

Sometimes you get surprisingly good value because the team makes an in-draft trade up or down. I don't know if I've done a pre-draft trade-up. I wanted to the year Mahomes was drafted because I thought the Chiefs wouldn't go up and get him but decided to stay pat and they did it. Never a happier a camper.

Rain Man 04-28-2021 11:09 PM

Tell me if I'm missing anyone, but in free agency it looks like you can add the following guys to your roster:

Joe Thuney
Kyle Long
Blake Bell
Jarran Reed
Austin Blythe
Michael Burton

And remove the following guys if they were on your roster.

Tanoh Kpassagnon
Damien Wilson

You have the option of retaining any players who were released (e.g, Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, etc.)

kccrow 04-29-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15649504)
Tell me if I'm missing anyone, but in free agency it looks like you can add the following guys to your roster:

Joe Thuney
Kyle Long
Blake Bell
Jarran Reed
Austin Blythe
Michael Burton

And remove the following guys if they were on your roster.

Tanoh Kpassagnon
Damien Wilson

You have the option of retaining any players who were released (e.g, Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, etc.)

I think add to removes?

Sammy Watkins
Ricky Seals Jones

kccrow 04-29-2021 06:46 AM

Rainman, can you verify this for draft picks?

Option to accept the in-season trade of DeAndre Washington (if on your roster) and 2021 7th for 2021 6th
Option to trade 2021 1st #31, 3rd #94, 4th #136 2022 5th for OT Orlando Brown Jr. 2021 2nd #58 and 2022 6th

Picks

1-31 (if not trading for Brown)
2-58 (if trading for Brown)
2-63
3-94 (if not trading for Brown)
4-136 (if not trading for Brown)
4-144 (comp)
5-175
5-181 (comp)
6-207 (if trading Washington)
6-215 (if didn't accept trade for 2020 7th to pick Keyes)
7-258 (if not trading Washington)

kccrow 04-29-2021 07:10 AM

The decision of whether or not to trade for Brown and then whether or not to make a pre-draft move this year if I do is the hardest I've faced so far. Ugh.

Rain Man 04-30-2021 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15649672)
I think add to removes?

Sammy Watkins
Ricky Seals Jones

Thanks. Let's remove them if they're around.

Watkins was my #1 receiver, believe it or not. I apparently stink at drafting receivers.

Rain Man 04-30-2021 08:29 PM

We all know this, but if you want Orlando Brown, Jr., you will ...

lose pick #31
lose pick #94
lose pick #136

gain pick #58

and then some stuff next year that we'll address then.

If you have Deandre Washington on your roster, you can trade him and pick #258 for pick #207. (I think those slots are right.)

Rain Man 04-30-2021 08:41 PM

One thing I've learned over the years is that it's hard to draft left tackles, so even though I enjoy drafting I'm definitely going to accept the Orlando Brown trade.

chiefscafan 04-30-2021 08:58 PM

Ok so Iím accepting brown trade as Rainman said itís hard to find a LT


So far I love the chiefs picks


I gues I have 258 and not 207

Rain Man 04-30-2021 09:01 PM

You can also add midseason acquisitions to your roster. They are:

Deandre Baker
Antonio Callaway
Prince Tega Wanogho
Bryan Witzmann

All of the camp fodder guys too, but you can wait until we get closer to cuts to add them.

Rain Man 04-30-2021 09:45 PM

In accepting the Orlando Brown trade, and since I didn't have DeAndre Washington to trade away, my picks are:

Round Pick
2 58
2 63
4 144
5 175
5 181
7 258

kccrow 04-30-2021 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15655669)
One thing I've learned over the years is that it's hard to draft left tackles, so even though I enjoy drafting I'm definitely going to accept the Orlando Brown trade.

I think the problem lies more in where the tackles went this year. You have to give up so much to get to a guy in either the 1st or 2nd to get to the spots they went that it doesn't even seem worth fighting against the Chiefs' trade. Kind of disappointing. Then, if I make the trade I feel pigeon-holed to a few players after that.

Kellerfox 05-01-2021 07:30 PM

I desperately worked through the mental gymnastics of trying to decline the OBJ trade just because I want my new roster to be unique (ie, use the Chiefs original 1st to draft a LT), but there just aren’t any scenarios that make sense with the post-draft pick trade devaluation. Given that, The Tacoma Trash Pandas are accepting the OBJ trade - the value is just too good.

Clarification/confirmation: Am I able to accept the Chiefs move up in the 5th round without the devaluation penalty? (Assuming I have pick #207 to enable that trade because the Chiefs had it when I started the game)

kccrow 05-01-2021 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 15658154)
I desperately worked through the mental gymnastics of trying to decline the OBJ trade just because I want my new roster to be unique (ie, use the Chiefs original 1st to draft a LT), but there just arenít any scenarios that make sense with the post-draft pick trade devaluation. Given that, The Tacoma Trash Pandas are accepting the OBJ trade - the value is just too good.

Clarification/confirmation: Am I able to accept the Chiefs move up in the 5th round without the devaluation penalty? (Assuming I have pick #207 to enable that trade because the Chiefs had it when I started the game)

Yes you can. You get the picks the Chiefs had when you started the game. No devaluation for accepting a team trade.

kccrow 05-03-2021 02:41 AM

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Yeti's 2021 Offseason

I had De'Andre Washington on my roster and accept the 2020 in-season trade with our 7th round pick for Round 6 pick #207.

I am going to be ballsy and not accept the Chiefs' trade with Baltimore for OT Orlando Brown Jr.

This gives me a starting draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-175, 5-181, and 6-207.

I am going to accept the Chiefs' in-draft trade-up, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I am going to execute a trade down from 5-181 with the Chicago Bears for picks 6-208 (acquired in their trade of Adam Shaheen in 2020), 6-221 (comp), and 6-228 (comp). 5-181 is 19.0 pts, discounted at 65% to 12.35 pts. 6-208 is 8.2 pts, 6-221 is 3 pts, and 6-228 is 1 pt good for 12.2 pts.

This leaves me a draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-162, 6-208, 6-221, 6-226, and 6-228.

I make the following selections.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Selected with 2-39 by Chicago

Jenkins is a ferocious blocker on the outside and shows potential to play either LT or RT in the NFL. I'm not banking on LT, as I've tried to hedge that bet later, but in listening to the Bears and his former collegiate coach talk, it seems he'll get his shot at the blind side.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Selected with 3-76 by New Orleans

Adebo is one of my favorite CBs coming out of this draft with good mirror skills and outstanding ball production. I think he has a shot to be an immediate starter in New Orleans and would have made a good pick for the Chiefs. He compliments Sneed on the outside and Byron Murphy in the slot on my team.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Selected with 3-96 by New England

It seems I always gravitate towards taking a mid-round shot on an edge rusher and Perkins is no different here. I think Perkins was a first round caliber player that fell in the draft and Belichick seemed pretty excited to get him. Perkins may start out as a situational rusher but I don't think it'll take long to climb the ranks if he perfects his technique early on.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Selected with 4-138 by Dallas

I'll say this, if not for the sexual assault issues for Ball at Florida State, he may have ended up a 1st or 2nd round player but transferring and missing time because of it on top of that made him fall further than his talent suggests. Ball will definitely get a shot at LT in Dallas, especially if Smith goes down again and certainly into the future.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Selected with 5-158 by Carolina

I really didn't need to add more to my defensive tackle group but this was too outstanding of a value. I saw Nixon as a Kawaan Short clone and certainly as a high 2nd round player. Nixon going in the 5th was blasphemy and I really think the Panthers got a steal here. Nixon should fight for a immediate reps on obvious passing downs and develop into a future starter, and potentially a star, in the NFL. I'm taking this shot.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Selected with 5-162 by Kansas City

Much like the actual Chiefs, I sorely lack a TE #2 on my roster so I'm cloning their move here and taking Gray. Gray has flashed some major potential as a receiving threat in an H-back type role. I think Reid will have some fun designing plays that put Gray and Kelce on the field at the same time to attack the middle of the field.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
Selected with 6-220 by Green Bay

I trade out of the 181st pick to get more darts late. I see McDuffie as much of the same type of player as former Packer Blake Martinez in that they are a little undersized but have good change of direction and solid speed to the sidelines. The one plus is that McDuffie flies around with reckless abandon and could endear himself to coaches early on. McDuffie never may be more than a special teams guy but I'll take that shot late in the 6th.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Selected with 6-226 by Kansas City

I had to grab Trey Smith late as KC did and take a shot on his lungs not being an issue. Smith is an absolute monster of a guard that had late 1st to early 2nd ability on the field. Obviously teams didn't like the clot issue and worry about his longevity but I'm banking on him having it under control and getting a stud that can slip in at RG for the forseeable future.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Selected with 7-242 by New England

I'm going out on a limb here and taking Nixon to add some juice to my receiving corps that's pretty strong as it sits. I have faith that Belicheck is going to marry this kid to a jugs machine all offseason in an effort to eliminate his one real weakness: drops. Other than that, Nixon has great speed and outstanding separation ability at all 3 levels of the field in the mold of many Belichick slot receivers.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
Selected with 7-244 by Miami

I was enamored with Gerrid Doaks in the pre-draft process and had to find a way to get him. Trading down provided an opportunity to get a couple other guys while still adding Doaks. Doaks is a bigger back with outstanding athleticism, can run inside or outside, and is outstanding in the passing game as a receiver and blocker. If Doaks can stay healthy, an issue in college at times, the sky is really the limit with his talent on the field.


Temporary Roster

Spoiler!

Kellerfox 05-03-2021 07:16 PM

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Tacoma Trash Pandas’ Draft

Begrudgingly, I am accepting the OBJ trade because I see no other way to protect our starting quarterbacks blindside this season.

I am accepting the Chiefs draft day trade, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I’m also stealing Kccrow’s trade down, swapping #5-181 for the Bear’s #6-208, #6-221, and #6-228 in an effort to have more unique players on my new expansion team (trying to diversify as quickly as possible).

I really wanted to make 100% unique selections different from the Chiefs, but a few of our selections were just too much value to pass up.

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#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

Basham is a big and athletic pass rusher who is capable of playing both outside and inside in a four man front. Although Buffalos edge position is very crowded with two servicable starters and Gregory Rousseau, I think Basham’s flexibility will allow him to see the field early and flourish. Looking ahead to the Trash Panda’s 2022 roster, this move was ,add proactively to give me flexibility in next years draft.

I also heavily considered Nick Bolton and Paulson Adebo at this spot. I passed on Bolton in an effort to diversify my roster from the Chiefs and Adebo because of injury concerns, even though he likely starts for the Saints this season.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Brett Veach may be no Kellerfox, but he did have the right idea here. I can’t pass up the opportunity to draft the best center in the 2021 class who should be an instant starter.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

While I love the idea of finding a long term answer at TE2 and considered taking a Brevin Jordan, I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to lock in the drafts 4th best RB this late. Gainwell should slip into the RB2 role for the Eagles and is a fairly similar player to fellow Tiger Antonio Gibson in terms of play style. Given that Miles Saunders is made of glass, o expect Gainwell to see significant action this season and trust that he will never look back once he has seized his opportunity.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

In our quest for WR depth after the departure of Sammy Watkins, the Trash Pandas turn to Frank Darby. Darby is a bit of a tweener who is tough enough to make the tough catches in the middle but also has enough speed to get open deep. I like the opportunity he has in Atlanta to see early playing time which will spring board him into a hall of fame career.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

Undersized but great mobility. The Trash Pandas are going to give McDuffie a year or two to show us some upside, but we anticipate that LB will be a big need for us next year.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

Tay was a bit of a draft enigma. He was a late declaration, did not participate in camps, and has minimal film. Word on the street is, some teams had him slotted as high as the 4th so he is great value at this point and is primed to see snaps for the Cardinals this year.

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

How could I say no? 2nd round talent at #226? Like the Chiefs, I’m rolling the dice than Smith is healthy enough to be a long term solution at RG.

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Big DT to reinforce the center of our DL, we see Tonga having great value as a late round flier. The knock against him is athleticism, he relies too heavily on strength. Will that allow him to succeed in the NFL? We shall see...

Rain Man 05-03-2021 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15649680)
Rainman, can you verify this for draft picks?

Option to accept the in-season trade of DeAndre Washington (if on your roster) and 2021 7th for 2021 6th
Option to trade 2021 1st #31, 3rd #94, 4th #136 2022 5th for OT Orlando Brown Jr. 2021 2nd #58 and 2022 6th

Picks

1-31 (if not trading for Brown)
2-58 (if trading for Brown)
2-63
3-94 (if not trading for Brown)
4-136 (if not trading for Brown)
4-144 (comp)
5-175
5-181 (comp)
6-207 (if trading Washington)
6-215 (if didn't accept trade for 2020 7th to pick Keyes)
7-258 (if not trading Washington)


Oh, good catch on the Bopete thing. These all sound right.

Rain Man 05-04-2021 01:05 AM

Okay, first things first. We're making a trade down. We're giving up the #181 pick to Arizona, which is worth 13 points (20 points x .65 adjustment). In return, we'll get the Cardinals' #209, #223, and #247 picks (8.8, 3.3, and 0.85 points) per the trade table: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...l?page_id=6682

We will also accept the Orlando Brown trade with its various dealings.

We didn't have DeAndre Washington so the late-round trade with the Jets isn't possible.

So we now have the following picks:

#2-58
#2-63
#4-144
#5-175
#6-209
#6-215
#7-223
#7-247
#7-258

They will be announced after I sleep on a few decisions.

Rain Man 05-09-2021 10:14 PM

Okay, here's my draft.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers)

My choice here came down to Marshall or ILB Nick Bolton. However, I'm desperate for WRs so Marshall filled a slot better for me.

#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars)

We're okay on starters at safety, but will likely lose one or both in the next couple of years. Cisco seems like an instant starter and could even start for us as a rookie.

I debated between Cisco, WR Anthony Schwartz, and CB Paulson Adebo. If I needed a center, I would have definitely gone with Creed Humphrey. I really wanted Schwartz, but it seemed like a better pick to take Cisco.

#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens)

I'm generally pretty good at drafting CBs, so I've got a good stable. But I need another one with upside, and Wade is it.

The choice came down to Wade or TE Brevin Jordan. I need depth at TE, but it's hard to spend picks on the position when I've got Kelce there.

#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots)

This was my toughest pick, because there were four players I really liked: McGrone, WR Simi Fehoko, ILB KJ Britt, and CB Deommodore Lenoir. I went back and forth on these guys and finally picked McGrone over Lenoir because I can't draft OLBs so I have to keep trying.

#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts)

I need a developmental QB and didn't see any other prospects who wowed me, so Ehlinger was the only guy I considered.

#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears)

My WR group is weak, so I'll give Newsome a shot. I didn't really consider anyone else.

#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs)

This was another tough one, because there were several guys I liked. Other than Smith, I was intrigued by G Jack Anderson, CB Israel Mukuami, and S JaCoby Stevens. Even though I'm very strong at G, I couldn't pass up Smith's potential.

#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars)

I traded down specifically to draft a couple of undrafted free agents. The first of those is Moses, who is trying to come back from a major knee injury. He got back onto the field, but with questions about how well his recovery went. I'll roll the dice. I didn't consider anyone else.

#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns)

This one's a big risk, but with potential reward. He looked good in the past, but had a terrible final year in college and also is apparently a vocal locker room guy in a way that's not welcomed. For a late pick I'll give him a shot, even though I already have a bunch of bodies at the DT spot. I didn't consider anyone else.

Kellerfox 07-24-2021 02:57 PM

Think I missed the pre-training camp edit deadline - but I’m going to stick with my draft picks. I’ve been second guessing a few, but Im going to trust my initial decisions.

Kellerfox 08-18-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15659405)
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Yeti's 2021 Offseason

I had De'Andre Washington on my roster and accept the 2020 in-season trade with our 7th round pick for Round 6 pick #207.

I am going to be ballsy and not accept the Chiefs' trade with Baltimore for OT Orlando Brown Jr.

This gives me a starting draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-175, 5-181, and 6-207.

I am going to accept the Chiefs' in-draft trade-up, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I am going to execute a trade down from 5-181 with the Chicago Bears for picks 6-208 (acquired in their trade of Adam Shaheen in 2020), 6-221 (comp), and 6-228 (comp). 5-181 is 19.0 pts, discounted at 65% to 12.35 pts. 6-208 is 8.2 pts, 6-221 is 3 pts, and 6-228 is 1 pt good for 12.2 pts.

This leaves me a draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-162, 6-208, 6-221, 6-226, and 6-228.

I make the following selections.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Selected with 2-39 by Chicago

Jenkins is a ferocious blocker on the outside and shows potential to play either LT or RT in the NFL. I'm not banking on LT, as I've tried to hedge that bet later, but in listening to the Bears and his former collegiate coach talk, it seems he'll get his shot at the blind side.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Selected with 3-76 by New Orleans

Adebo is one of my favorite CBs coming out of this draft with good mirror skills and outstanding ball production. I think he has a shot to be an immediate starter in New Orleans and would have made a good pick for the Chiefs. He compliments Sneed on the outside and Byron Murphy in the slot on my team.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Selected with 3-96 by New England

It seems I always gravitate towards taking a mid-round shot on an edge rusher and Perkins is no different here. I think Perkins was a first round caliber player that fell in the draft and Belichick seemed pretty excited to get him. Perkins may start out as a situational rusher but I don't think it'll take long to climb the ranks if he perfects his technique early on.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Selected with 4-138 by Dallas

I'll say this, if not for the sexual assault issues for Ball at Florida State, he may have ended up a 1st or 2nd round player but transferring and missing time because of it on top of that made him fall further than his talent suggests. Ball will definitely get a shot at LT in Dallas, especially if Smith goes down again and certainly into the future.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Selected with 5-158 by Carolina

I really didn't need to add more to my defensive tackle group but this was too outstanding of a value. I saw Nixon as a Kawaan Short clone and certainly as a high 2nd round player. Nixon going in the 5th was blasphemy and I really think the Panthers got a steal here. Nixon should fight for a immediate reps on obvious passing downs and develop into a future starter, and potentially a star, in the NFL. I'm taking this shot.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Selected with 5-162 by Kansas City

Much like the actual Chiefs, I sorely lack a TE #2 on my roster so I'm cloning their move here and taking Gray. Gray has flashed some major potential as a receiving threat in an H-back type role. I think Reid will have some fun designing plays that put Gray and Kelce on the field at the same time to attack the middle of the field.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
Selected with 6-220 by Green Bay

I trade out of the 181st pick to get more darts late. I see McDuffie as much of the same type of player as former Packer Blake Martinez in that they are a little undersized but have good change of direction and solid speed to the sidelines. The one plus is that McDuffie flies around with reckless abandon and could endear himself to coaches early on. McDuffie never may be more than a special teams guy but I'll take that shot late in the 6th.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Selected with 6-226 by Kansas City

I had to grab Trey Smith late as KC did and take a shot on his lungs not being an issue. Smith is an absolute monster of a guard that had late 1st to early 2nd ability on the field. Obviously teams didn't like the clot issue and worry about his longevity but I'm banking on him having it under control and getting a stud that can slip in at RG for the forseeable future.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Selected with 7-242 by New England

I'm going out on a limb here and taking Nixon to add some juice to my receiving corps that's pretty strong as it sits. I have faith that Belicheck is going to marry this kid to a jugs machine all offseason in an effort to eliminate his one real weakness: drops. Other than that, Nixon has great speed and outstanding separation ability at all 3 levels of the field in the mold of many Belichick slot receivers.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
Selected with 7-244 by Miami

I was enamored with Gerrid Doaks in the pre-draft process and had to find a way to get him. Trading down provided an opportunity to get a couple other guys while still adding Doaks. Doaks is a bigger back with outstanding athleticism, can run inside or outside, and is outstanding in the passing game as a receiver and blocker. If Doaks can stay healthy, an issue in college at times, the sky is really the limit with his talent on the field.


Temporary Roster

Spoiler!

Rough news of Tevin Jenkins today (back surgery, out for a few months). Think he still has a bright future though.

I almost skipped the OBJr trade to go with Jenkins. Despite the setback, I think he's in a good situation to bounce back.

kccrow 08-20-2021 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 15789476)
Rough news of Tevin Jenkins today (back surgery, out for a few months). Think he still has a bright future though.

I almost skipped the OBJr trade to go with Jenkins. Despite the setback, I think he's in a good situation to bounce back.

I think it has become obvious that the originally stated condition by Oklahoma State medical staff, that he had a "back strain," was not updated through any of the draft process. That "strain" magically followed him to the pros, which means it caused misalignment and, potentially, nerve damage.

I think there's a great chance he does bounce back, but I likely wouldn't have made the pick if I knew that it was something beyond a strain that was properly handled.

My 4th round guy, Ball, is out multiple weeks with a high ankle too. :D

Rain Man 08-31-2021 06:49 PM

As a reminder, you can add guys to your roster if they arrived as free agents and you've never previously cut them. Guys new to the Chiefs after opening day of 2020 are:

Deandre Baker
Blake Bell
Austin Blythe
Michael Burton
Daurice Fountain
Jerick McKinnon
Jarran Reed
Joe Thuney

You can also trade your 2022 6th-round pick for Mike Hughes and the Vikings 2022 7th-round pick.

Rain Man 08-31-2021 08:16 PM

Okay, it's time to announce my 2021 53-man roster.

QB

Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Sam Ehlinger (Colts)

I'm sure glad that I drafted Wilson. Behind him I've got two developmental backups that I like.

RB

Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Damien Williams
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)

It's a pretty deep bench with talent at the top. Rashaad Penny is probably on his last chance for me, but I retain optimism that he'll break out.

FB

Michael Burton

Since I'm only carrying two TEs I figured I should have a fullback.

WR

Terrace Marshall (Panthers)
James Washington (Steelers)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Daurice Fountain
Dazz Newsome (Bears)

My area of weakness for a while, but I'm hearing good things about Marshall. I've invested a lot in this position and need some guys to step up.

TE

Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Blake Bell

I'm glad I drafted Kelce. We're bringing Bell back to back him up.

OT

Orlando Brown, Jr.
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

An area of weakness for years is suddenly a strength.

G

Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Joe Thuney
Trey Smith (Chiefs)

Okay, my offensive line is suddenly a powerhouse.

C

Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Blythe

Whitehair has moved back to G for the Bears, but I'll keep him at C to complete a strong line.

K
Harrison Butker

Best in the business.

P
Tommy Townsend

We'll give Tommy another year.

LS
James Winchester

Best in the business.

S

FS
Tyrann Matthieu
Andre Cisco (Jaguars)
Jordan Poyer (Bills)

I'm hearing good things about Cisco, so this unit looks strong.

CB

Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Shaun Wade (Ravens)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Deandre Baker

I have a lot of slot corners, but overall I think this is a strong group.

OLB

Jaylon Ferguson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Anthony Nelson
Cameron McGrone (patriots)

I'm relying on some young guys to step up here. I've heard good reports about Ferguson this summer.

MLB

Anthony Hitchens
Dylan Moses (Jaguars)

Moses likely won't play this year, so Hitchens is my guy.

DE

Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Alex Okafor
Dorance Armstrong

As with the OLBs, I'm relying on some young guys to step up this year.

DT

Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Jarran Reed
Tershawn Wharton
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Maurice Hurst
Marvin Wilson (Browns)

An interesting mix of veterans and young guys.



All in all, I would say that my offense is very strong other than weakness at the WR spot. My defense is strong in the backfield and at DT, but edges and the rest of the front seven are a big question mark going into the season.

Rain Man 08-31-2021 08:25 PM

My rookie report is a mixed bag, but if I can get three Week 1 starters I think it's a good draft.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Looking really good, likely starter in Carolina.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Looking really good. The Jags cut a veteran safety, so he may be starting.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Not sure what's happening here. He got traded before the season. I think he'll get playing time, but probably not as a starter.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - Injured. Not sure I'll see him play this year.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - Injured. May show up on the Colts' roster midseason.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Got cut. Maybe he'll land on the practice squad. I'll keep him around to give him at least a year to develop.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer. Week 1 starter.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). I knew he was hurt when I drafted him. I may not see him on the field this year.
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - High-risk pick, which I knew going in. He got cut. I'll keep him around for a year to see if he lands on a practice squad.

Rain Man 08-31-2021 08:30 PM

My cuts:

First, I lost two guys in free agency.

Sammy Watkins
Damien Wilson

Then I cut these guys.

Derrick Gore
Prince Tega Wanogho
Michael Jordan
Andrew Wylie
Ben Niemann
Maurice Hurst
Mike Pennel
Jordan Ta'amu
Jerick McKinnon
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Antonio Callaway
Ricky Seals-Jones
Mitchell Schwartz
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)
Keliechi Osemele
Bryan Witzmann
Kyle Long
Austin Reiter, OL
Tedric Thompson
Antonio Hamilton
Dicaprio Bootle

I'm strong enough on the OL that I cut a starting guard in Michael Jordan.

I hated to cut Niemann, Hurst, and Pennel, but I had no choice.

And by the way, I declined the trade for Mike Hughes. I'm deep at cornerback.

Kellerfox 08-31-2021 09:52 PM

I’ll try to tackle my roster & cuts this weekend.

Quick analysis on my draft picks… every single pick made their teams initial 53-man roster.

#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

I had hoped he would be an immediate hit and wow in camp / preseason, but unfortunately he has somewhat been lost behind a few other pass rushers on the Bills roster. I don’t expect a lot of production this year. Still, camp reports still point to potential.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Angry my physician team for not disclosing that Humphrey is a South Paw, but happy to have landed a perennial pro bowler.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

The Eagles are very excited about Gainwell and so am I. Gainwell should be their primary pass catching back right off the bat, and will inevitably take over when Miles Sanders has his inevitable season ending injury. I expect Gainwell to have an Antonio Gibson - sequel rookie season if all goes to plan.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

Made the 53 man roster, but didn’t wow anyone. I have a tough decision ahead on whether to keep Darby, or roll the dice on a Fountain.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

I haven’t seen much of McDuffie, I think he may have been injured for much of camp. He did make the Packers roster, and they are thin at LB, so hoping it all comes together mid season.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

Tay was awful in the preseason, but made the Cards 53 man roster as one of only 4 CBs because they have jack shit at the position. Barring a trade, Gowan will see significant time. Best hope hard lessons turn into serious growth.

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

Rainman covered it - locking down a future HOFer in the 6th round = VALUE

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Made the Bears roster, impressed in camp, probably won’t see much playing time.

kccrow 09-02-2021 07:48 PM

Rookie Report

I still feel like this could be a solid class for me with Jenkins, Adebo, Perkins, Nixon, and Smith looking good early on. That said, counting on Jenkins to be my LT in what could be a redshirt year for him after surgery is going to leave me with a huge hole for 2021.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery. We'll see if he returns in 2021, but this puts me in a rough spot at LT.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
From everything I've seen and read, Adebo looks good and should see significant snaps this year. Hey may not get the starting gig over Crawley out of the gate, but it sounds like he will soon.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Perkins had a pretty good camp and was taking time from Winovich as a rotational pass rusher. He could develop into an asset quickly but he probably doesn't start with Judon and Van Noy there unless Bill changes to a 3-4 more frequently.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early so I really have no idea what I'll have here, if anything.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Nixon had a good camp and is listed as 2nd string. He should get quite a few snaps based on what I've seen and heard.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
I'm a bit more worried about this pick after a lackluster pre-season than I was in minicamp but there's time.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay, but he's 3rd string and it's hard to put a finger on what I have here.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Smith looks like a stud, which we kind of expected out of a 1st Round-caliber player that fell.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Nixon missed the cut but the Pats kept him on the practice squad. I may have missed on a traits-based shot in the dark.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
I was really excited about Doaks but he missed the cut in Miami and ended up on their PS. I may not give up on him just yet though, given he had a pretty solid preseaon finale.

kccrow 09-02-2021 08:54 PM

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2021 ROSTER

OFFENSE (25)

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - Jerick McKinnon (FA/21 - KC)

FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC)

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Noah Gray (#5-162 - KC)
TE - Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC)

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Daurice Fountain (FA/21 - KC)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)

OT - Eric Fisher (IND)
OT - Teven Jenkins (#1-31/21 - CHI)
OT - Josh Ball (#4-136/21 - DAL)
OT - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)

LG - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC)
RG - Trey Smith (#6-221/21 - KC)
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif

OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ)
OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)

DEFENSE (25)

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU)
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - DAL)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)
DL - Jarran Reed (FA/21 - KC)
DL - Daviyon Nixon (#4-144/21 - CAR)

ER - Justin Houston (BAL)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - NE)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)
ER - Ronnie Perkins (#3-94/21 - NE)

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN)
LB - Isaiah McDuffie (#6-208 - GB)

CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Paulson Adebo (#2-63/21 - NO)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Mike Hughes (t-MIN/21)
CB - DeAndre Baker (FA/20 - KC)

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester

Offseason Trades
Trade OL Yasir Durant to NE for 2022 7th
Trade 2022 6th to MIN for CB Mike Hughes and 2022 7th

Cuts
WR - Antonio Calloway (FA/20 - KC)
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - FA)
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC)
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC)
OT - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
OG - Kyle Long (FA/21 - KC)
OC - Austin Blythe (FA/21 - KC)
OL - Mitchell Schwartz (FA)
WR - Tre Nixon (#6-226/21 - NE)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - NO)
RB - Gerrid Doaks (#6-226/21 - MIA)

Notes: Parting with 6th and 7th rounders early into their careers doesn't bother me but having to release 2nd and 3rd rounders do. I simply have too many defensive linemen to hang onto Phillips who has done nothing but regress post-injury. K-Pass is also a casualty as I'd rather hang onto the potential of oft-injured Okorowonko than limited productivity, hoping this is the year he gets out of the tub.

That said I'm not too disappointed in the roster sans my ability to rework the tackle position. I'm hanging onto Fisher as a last-ditch effort of hope that I'll have a left tackle at some point this season. Meanwhile, I'm hanging onto Wylie over Blythe just to have a RT at all. To be honest, I thought about hanging onto Schwartz as well in hopes he signs somewhere... Things are thin around here.

Speaking of bad luck with losing players to injury, I've also lost 'Bisi Johnson for the season with a torn ACL, but I literally have nobody but a practice squad player in Nixon to push him off the team. I'd rather hang on for next year with the kid than hope Nixon pushes his way into the league.

Kellerfox 09-04-2021 10:11 AM

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Tacoma Trash Pandas 2021 Roster

QB:
Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Chad Henne (Chiefs)

RB:
Clyde Edwards-Helaire(Chiefs)
Kenneth Gainwell (Eagles)
Jerrick McKinnon (Chiefs)
Darrel Williams (Chiefs)

FB:
Michael Burton (Chiefs)

WR:
Tyreek Hill (Chiefs)
Mecole Hardman (Chiefs)
Demarcus Robinson (Chiefs)
Frank Darby (Falcons)
Byron Pringle (Chiefs)
Daurice Fountain (Chiefs)

TE:
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Blake Bell (Chiefs)
Jody Fortson (Chiefs)

OT:
Orlando Brown Jr. (Chiefs)
Lucas Niang (Chiefs)
Mike Remmers (Chiefs)

OG:
Joe Thuney (Chiefs)
Trey Smith (Chiefs - Drafted)
Andrew Wylie (Chiefs)

OC:
Creed Humphrey (Chiefs - Drafted)
Austin Blythe (Chiefs)
Nick Allegretti (Chiefs)

———————-

DT:
Jarran Reed (Chiefs)
Khalen Saunders (Chiefs)
Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs)
Khyris Tonga (Bears)
Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs)

DE:
Chris Jones (Chiefs)
Frank Clark (Chiefs)
Carlos Basham Jr. (Bills)
Mike Danna (Chiefs)
Alex Okafor (Chiefs)

OLB:
Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs)
Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs)

ILB:
Anthony Hitchens (Chiefs)
Isaiah McDuffie (Packers)
Ben Niemann (Chiefs)

CB:
L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs)
Charvarius Ward (Chiefs)
Rashad Fenton (Chiefs)
Tay Gowan (Cardinals)
De’Andre Baker (Chiefs)
Mike Hughes (Chiefs)

FS:
Juan Thornhill (Chiefs)
Armani Watts (Chiefs)

SS:
Tyrann Mathieu (Chiefs)
Daniel Sorensen (Chiefs)

———————-

P:
Tommy Townsend (Chiefs)

K:
Harrison Butker (Chiefs)

LS:
James Winchester (Chiefs)

Kellerfox 10-15-2021 01:04 PM

Looks like my CB/draft pick Tay Gowan is getting traded to the Eagles as a part of the Zach Ertz deal. A bit early to say he needed a change of scenery... But hopefully he can gain traction and opportunity in Philadelphia that wasn't happening in AZ.

Rain Man 10-15-2021 09:15 PM

My rookie class is underachieving right now. Hopefully they start getting traction.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - 3 starts, active in all 5 games, 13 receptions.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all 5 games this season, 2 total tackles.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Active roster, but no game appearances yet.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - On the Bears' practice squad.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer, 5 starts in 5 games.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - Cut, but now on the Eagles' practice squad.

kccrow 10-16-2021 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15895797)
My rookie class is underachieving right now. Hopefully they start getting traction.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - 3 starts, active in all 5 games, 13 receptions.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all 5 games this season, 2 total tackles.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Active roster, but no game appearances yet.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - On the Bears' practice squad.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer, 5 starts in 5 games.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - Cut, but now on the Eagles' practice squad.

It's early yet. I think you have a few guys in spots where they weren't drafted to be immediate contributors (McGrone, Cisco, Wade, esp) on their respective rosters. Might see more as the season goes along.

Mine doesn't look much different, a bunch on IR and the rest doing nothing much yet sans Abedo and Smith who both look like studs.

Kellerfox 10-29-2021 03:03 PM

My man Kenneth Gainwell about to get his shot as RB1 in Philly. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns and never lets go.

kccrow 02-08-2022 10:18 PM

Rookie Report

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery so that really put a damper on things for me at LT. Jenkins eventually returned in week 14 and had two starts in week's 15 and 16 for an injured Peters where he looked like he could end up being a solid player at LT, he just needs to work on his hand placement so he doesn't lunge.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Adebo looked really good as a rookie starting all 17 games and putting up 66 tackles, 3 ints and 8 pds. He could be a stud when he fully develops. I'm pretty giddy about this pick.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Perkins had a pretty good camp but ended up injured and ended the season on IR with no games played. We'll see how this one goes going forward. I've been on a pretty bad trend of drafting edge rushers that end up injured and underperforming.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early and didn't play. Another guy I have to hope picks it up going forward.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Nixon had a good camp and got some playing time the first 7 games of the year with 9 tackles and 0.5 sacks. He had a knee injury and landed on IR after that. Talk about a mash unit...

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Gray spent most of the season playing special teams and ehancing his role there but he also got moe work offensively finishing with 7 catches for 36 yards and a TD. Not all-world but he showed signs he could be a worthwhile player as he develops.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay and saw action, mostly on special teams, in 13 games. Ended up with 2 whopping tackles on the season. The future looks... bright.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Smith is a stud and proved he's the 1st-round caliber player he should have been if not for that whole heart thing.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
I cut him after he missed New England's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
I cut him after he missed Miami's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022.

Overall Report
Pat Mahomes, Aaron Jones, and Travis Kelce remain studs.

I may need to look to replace Chris Carson as my thunder to Jones' lightning at RB after he had neck fusion surgery. He might come back, but it may not be the same.

Boyd's diminished role leaves me likely looking for a true #1 at WR.

Fisher starting 15 games in IND saved my season at LT so glad I didn't make that cut. Same goes for Andrew Wylie at RT.
Thuney and McCoy are studs. McGovern and Bozeman remain quality starters.

Defensively, I'm disappointed in Ross Blacklock. He was to be my stud DE in my 3-4 and he had 2 starts with 22 tackles and 2 sacks in year 2. So far, not so good. That said, the rest of my rotation was solid. My other pick from the same draft, Justin Madubuike, started 11 games in Baltimore and had 36 tackles and 2 sacks so he's ascending. Carlos Watkins, who I was ready to give up on, actually ended up with 14 starts, 32 tackles, and 1 sack. Zach Sieler started 9 games and played in all 17 with 62 tackles and 2 sacks. Wharton had action in 17 games with 28 tackles and 2 sacks and Jarran Reed had 17 starts, 43 tackles, and 2.5 sacks. I could lose Reed so I'll need a NT.

I had good starting rush OLBs again with Houston and Judon but the failure of Ximines and Okoronkwo developing has my cupboard bare. I may have to spend a high pick at the position with Houston getting old.

My linebackers are pretty good with Holcomb (142 tkl, 1 sk, 2 ff, 2 int, 7 pd) and Wilson (100 tkl, 1 sk, 1 ff, 4 int, 4 pd) being studs on the inside and Hitchens in reserve (80 tkl, 2 pd, 1 int).

My triple threat of Adebo, Sneed (76 tkl, 1 sk, 2 int, 8pd), and Murphy (64 tkl, 0.5 sk, 4 int, 12 pd) are as good as it gets and young. I'm happy as a pig eating shit at CB but may need to improve the depth (Baker and Hughes).

Jessie Bates, despite a down year, remains one of the best safeties in the NFL (88 tkl, 1 int). Mathieu was Mathieu but he's probably out. Tarvarius Moore finally had a solid season as a reserve for me with 8 starts and 52 tackles. Amani Hooker started the season on IR with a foot injury but came back looking like a solid get for me in the 4th and could replace Mathieu for me. He had 12 starts in 12 games with 62 tackles, 1 int, and 4 pd.

I'd gauge my needs as:

1. ER
2. WR
3. RT
4. NT
5. RB
6. SS
7. Depth anywhere

Rain Man 02-09-2022 01:13 PM

I'm hoping my draft picks gain traction. It was not a good rookie year for most of them, but a number of them started getting action late in the season. So I have optimism that I'll see more production next year.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Played in 13 games, with 17 receptions. 3 starts.

#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all games, and got 3 starts. Actually started getting some game action late in the season.

#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Mostly inactive, played in 3 games.

#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list all year. Not unexpected. I thought there was a chance that he'd be back, but this is an investment pick.

#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve early. Ended up appearing in 3 games though he never attempted a pass.

#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Started on the Bears' practice squad, but eventually got to the active roster and appeared in, you guessed it, 3 games. Returned some punts and got a couple of receptions.

#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - We know him, we love him. 17 starts of greatness.

#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list for the entire year, as expected. This is an investment pick.

#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - On the Eagles practice squad almost all year, but got elevated and played in the final game of the year. Progress!

Kellerfox 03-01-2022 11:50 AM

Tacoma Trash Pandas Rookie Report



#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

Carlos was a key backup in the Bills heavy DL rotation. While his overall production didn’t match with my expectations due to limited playing time, he certainly flashed when he was given opportunities to the tune of 2.5 sacks and multiple pressures. He’s projected to get more playing time next year, so we will keep sitting on him as a developmental prospect.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Nailed it.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

Gainwell emerged as a dynamic threat logging 534 APY and 6 TDs. However, the Eagles were hesitant to give him RB1 carries despite injuries ahead of him on the depth chart. Gainwell may be destined to be a complimentary back in a RBC.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

Despite a weak position group, Darby could not get on the field. Looking like a dud.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

Not much to see here so far, a ST only player in year 1.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

*toilet flushing sound*

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

Nailed it.

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Off to a solid start as the Bears primary backup at DT appearing in 15 games, starting 2, and logging 24 tackles. I don’t think he is a future all-pro, but a solid rotational piece.

Rain Man 03-27-2022 09:11 PM

As a reminder, trades only occur if all of the parties given by the Chiefs (players and picks) are available to your team. If so, you can choose to accept or reject the trade.

Rain Man 03-27-2022 09:30 PM

My draft needs:

High priority
OLB - I've been trying to draft at this position for a decade. I never invest high picks and maybe I finally need to. I'm adding Elijah Lee as a free agent, but he's probably depth.
ILB - I may not even have a body at this position. Very high priority. However, I'm picking up Carter as a possible fill-in.

Moderate priority
CB - This area is moving from a huge strength to a weakness as my players decline.
DE - I need at least one starting DE
WR - I keep investing high draft picks and whiffing. I need a #1 and #2 WR at least. However, it looks like I'm picking up a couple of hot new free agents with the Chiefs, so this might even be a low priority.

Low priority
TE - I need a TE3 but am otherwise good.
OT - I could use some depth and an OTOTF, but am otherwise fine. I'll also pick up Christian as a free agent.
C - I'm fine here, but my starter is a C turned G that I'm moving back.
P - Maybe upgrade here, but not a big issue.
S - Hard to tell. I've got one established veteran and hopefully a rising second-year player, having lost Matthieu in free agency. I'll add a couple of free agents in Reid and Bell.
DT - I have a lot of bodies here who are sufficient.

Not a need
QB - solid starter and two young backups.
RB - solid starter and good depth, also adding Ronald Jones as a free agent.
FB - I have an Andy Reid fullback. I'm fine.
G - I have a wrecking crew here.
K - I have the best in the business.
LS - I'm set here.

Kellerfox 04-02-2022 11:17 AM

Getting some work in today in my Tacoma Trash Pandas spreadsheet (clearing out lost FAs, adding new signings, and figuring out what draft picks I’ll have later this month). I REALLY don’t want to accept the Tyreek trade but feel I have to given how many holes my roster currently has. I need the picks to fill a 53 man roster. I think I projected my picks correctly, but let me know if my logic is wrong Rain/Crow.

https://i.ibb.co/0MknfD8/841-E3275-F...C43-F97275.jpg

Tacoma Trash Panda 2022 Draft Picks

Draft pick related transactions
  • Rejected the Melvin Ingram trade during the season by way of not responding to it (Keep #6 - 208)
  • Accept the Tyreek Hill Trade (Acquire #1 - 29, #2 - 50, #4 - 121, plus a 4th and 6th next year)
  • Previously accepted Mike Hughes trade (Swap #6 - 191 via Baltimore from accepted OBJ trade for Vikings #7 - 233)
  • Did not have Yasir Durant on my roster - can’t accept trade to Patriots (lose #7 - 243)

Owned Draft Picks

#1 - 29 (via Hill trade)
#1 - 30 (Chiefs)
#2 - 50 (via Hill trade)
#2 - 62 (Chiefs)
#3 - 94 (Chiefs)
#3 - 103 (Chiefs - comp)
#4 - 121 (via Hill trade)
#4 - 135 (Chiefs)
#6 - 208 (Chiefs - kept by not trading for Melvin Ingram)
#7 - 233 (via Hughes trade)
#7 - 251 (Chiefs)
#7 - 259 (Chiefs - comp)

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:11 PM

Here's what I see on the draft possibilities. Do we match?

1st round (29th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

1st round (30th overall)

2nd round (50th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

2nd round (62nd overall)

3rd round (94th overall)

3rd round (103rd overall)

4th round (121st overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

4th round (135th overall)

5th round (173rd overall) - You get this only if you rejected the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade last year and don't have him on your roster.

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.

7th round (244th overall) - You get this only if you had Yasir Durant on your final roster and accept the trade to the patriots.

7th round (252nd overall)

7th round (260th overall)

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:16 PM

Ingram wasn't released, right? So if he leaves as a free agent we can't keep him on our teams. If he was actually released we can opt to keep him on the bet that he'll sign somewhere else or come back at some point.

Kellerfox 04-02-2022 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16229934)
Here's what I see on the draft possibilities. Do we match?

1st round (29th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

1st round (30th overall)

2nd round (50th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

2nd round (62nd overall)

3rd round (94th overall)

3rd round (103rd overall)

4th round (121st overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

4th round (135th overall)

5th round (173rd overall) - You get this only if you rejected the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade last year and don't have him on your roster.

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.

7th round (244th overall) - You get this only if you had Yasir Durant on your final roster and accept the trade to the patriots.

7th round (252nd overall)

7th round (260th overall)

We seem to be out of sync by 1 spot for each pick in the 6th round or later. Iíve see your numbers listed a few places and mine listed a few places. No idea whatís going on or which is right.

I was pulling from here: https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-dr...l-seven-rounds

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 16229948)
We seem to be out of sync by 1 spot for each pick in the 6th round or later. Iíve see your numbers listed a few places and mine listed a few places. No idea whatís going on or which is right.

I was pulling from here: https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-dr...l-seven-rounds

Yeah, I was curious about that. I had pulled mine from here: https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/03/...022-nfl-draft/

I know that sometimes draft picks alternate with tiebreakers, so we'll just sort that out when the draft comes.

I won't have the bevy of picks that the real Chiefs get. I should see how I drafted instead of Tyreek in 2016.

kccrow 04-03-2022 02:47 PM

The only issue I see is how we handle this:

Quote:

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.
When the trade for Hughes was made, we didn't then know which 6th round pick it would be. For me, I made the trade for Hughes but not the trade for OBJ and that was with the assumption that it would be the Chiefs' 6th and not the one acquired from Baltimore. I didn't accept the Melvin Ingram trade though. For me, it's kind of easy to rectify, just lose 209, gain 234 and I never get 191 and it all evens out. Not sure if anyone else tried to do both Hughes and Ingram and not OBJ though?

Edit:

And the 7th's should be 233 (Hughes trade), 243 (Durant trade), 251, and 259 (comp).

kccrow 04-03-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16229938)
Ingram wasn't released, right? So if he leaves as a free agent we can't keep him on our teams. If he was actually released we can opt to keep him on the bet that he'll sign somewhere else or come back at some point.

Ingram's contract expired, he's gone unless re-signed.

kccrow 04-03-2022 03:10 PM

I "think" this is a comprehensive free agent listing... let me know if it needs editing.

Free Agents Released (You can keep if you want)
LB - Anthony Hitchens

Free Agents Re-Signed (You can keep if you had them)
FB - Michael Burton
TE - Blake Bell
WR - Daurice Fountain
OT - Andrew Wylie
CB - DeAndre Baker
LS - James Winchester
DT - Derrick Nnadi
WR - Josh Gordon

Free Agents Lost (You lose unless re-signed - Expired Contracts)
RB - Jerick McKinnon
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
DB - Tyrann Mathieu
LB - Melvin Ingram
RB - Darrel Williams
OT - Mike Remmers
LB - Ben Niemann
OL - Kyle Long
DE - Alex Okafor
WR - Marcus Kemp
LB - Dorian O'Daniel
CB - Chris Lammons
DB - Armani Watts

Free Agents Lost (You lose, signed elsewhere)
DL - Jarran Reed (signed w/ GB)
CB - Mike Hughes (signed w/ DET)
CB - Charvarious Ward (signed w/ SF)
WR - Byron Pringle (signed w/ CHI)
OL - Austin Blythe (signed w/ SEA)
DB - Daniel Sorensen (signed w/ NO)
WR - Demarcus Robinson (signed w/ LV)

Free Agents Added (You can add)
DB - Justin Reid
WR - Marquez Valdes-Scantling
WR - JuJu Smith-Schuster
DB - Deon Bush
OT - Geron Christian
OC - Austin Reiter
OL - Roderick Johnson
DT - Taylor Stallworth
LB - Jermaine Carter
LB - Elijah Lee
CB - Luq Barcoo
RB - Ronald Jones II
WR - Justin Watson
WR - Corey Coleman

Likely Camp Fodder FA Adds (You can add)
WR - Omar Bayless
WR - Gary Jennings
TE - Jordan Franks
TE - Matt Bushman
TE - Josh Pederson
RB - Brenden Knox
DE - Jonathan Woodard
DT - Lorenzo Neal
DT - Darius Stills
CB - Brandin Dandridge

Rain Man 04-03-2022 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16230497)
Ingram's contract expired, he's gone unless re-signed.

Dang, I was hoping to keep him. I have so much trouble finding defensive ends.

Rain Man 04-03-2022 04:16 PM

Thanks for the research, guys.

Here's what I think my picks are.

1-30
2-62
3-94
3-103
4-135
6-191
6-209
7-251
7-259

I can make hay with this.


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