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The Franchise 12-10-2012 11:53 AM

No to Cameron or Whisenhunt

Deberg_1990 12-10-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9196518)
But is he a Geno Smith away from being good again?

Hmmm..probably not. Hes never developed a young QB, and hes never really won alot of games. Their Super Bowl year they just got hot at the right time.

Chris Meck 12-10-2012 11:54 AM

Of those guys, I'd like Turner. He's got experience coaching up QB's (Aikman, Rivers) and I like his vertical take on offense.

Mr. Laz 12-10-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9196526)
Hmmm..probably not. Hes never developed a young QB, and hes never really won alot of games. Their Super Bowl year they just got hot at the right time.

I question whether Geno Smith would fit his offense either.


seems to me that Whisenhunt likes the quick,timing passing game.


I would think that Geno would fit best in an offense that takes advantage of his superior deep passing.

Deberg_1990 12-10-2012 12:00 PM

heh, i know alot of fans hate to hear this, but Andy Reid is the most proven guy who will be available whith a history of success with young QBs.

Frankie 12-10-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9196351)
Because you don't have anybody to replace them and because you don't want the new GM/HC to start their career here with the stench of losing.

There's ABSOLUTELY zero functional reason to fire anybody now.

I disagree here. If I'm Hunt, firing Pioli now (actually weeks ago) would give me a chance to observe the operation of the FO and the interim GM. I know it's very unlikely that we do have a diamond in the rough future GM in our own office, but it would make me look stupid if I (Clark) missed out on him, in case there is. How that potential candidate handle the adversity the rest of the season will be a great exploratory tool for Clark.

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9196490)
There is going to be an impressive list of offensive coordinators that will 9Most likely) be available for next season

Cam Cameron
Andy Reid
Ken Whisenhunt
Norf Turner

Nowhere to go but up.

Marty Mornhinweg?

Mr. Laz 12-10-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9196538)
heh, i know alot of fans hate to hear this, but Andy Reid is the most proven guy who will be available whith a history of success with young QBs.

I would take him as an OC in a heartbeat but i still think he will get another shot as a Head Coach. He will probably want to do both (HC/OC) again. He is another guy that ignores the run a lot.

I don't like the dual roles much


Don't want my HC to have player personnel or be a coordinator.

FRCDFED 12-10-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9196529)
Of those guys, I'd like Turner. He's got experience coaching up QB's (Aikman, Rivers) and I like his vertical take on offense.

This! Turner as an OC would finally be a breath of fresh air! If not Turner then I would prefer that we go young with the HC and allow him to bring in his own college coordinator. Our team needs life!

htismaqe 12-10-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9196541)
I disagree here. If I'm Hunt, firing Pioli now (actually weeks ago) would give me a chance to observe the operation of the FO and the interim GM. I know it's very unlikely that we do have a diamond in the rough future GM in our own office, but it would make me look stupid if I (Clark) missed out on him, in case there is. How that potential candidate handle the adversity the rest of the season will be a great exploratory tool for Clark.

Marty Mornhinweg?

Every single position in our front office is manned by people HAND-PICKED by Pioli based on personal relationships rather then MERIT.

There is ZERO reason to evaluate any of them. They all need to be fired with Pioli.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9196588)
Every single position in our front office is manned by people HAND-PICKED by Pioli based on personal relationships rather then MERIT.

There is ZERO reason to evaluate any of them. They all need to be fired with Pioli.

This isn't entirely true, there are holdovers like Ray Farmer.

But yeah, anyone Pioli brought in needs axe.

Mr. Laz 12-10-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9196588)
Every single position in our front office is manned by people HAND-PICKED by Pioli based on personal relationships rather then MERIT.

There is ZERO reason to evaluate any of them. They all need to be fired with Pioli.

too far ... again

htismaqe 12-10-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9196599)
too far ... again

In your opinion...again.

ChiefMojo 12-10-2012 12:57 PM

Ray Farmer is highly respected as well but it sounds like no one wants to hire him away because they fear he is sorta toxic right now working under this Chiefs front office led by Pioli.

htismaqe 12-10-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9196677)
Ray Farmer is highly respected as well but it sounds like no one wants to hire him away because they fear he is sorta toxic right now working under this Chiefs front office led by Pioli.

Ray Farmer had been with the Chiefs since 2006, most notably as the Director of Pro Personnel.

During that time, the Chiefs have compiled an impressive 38-71 record.

I'm surprised nobody wants to hire him away.

Mother****erJones 12-10-2012 01:17 PM

Bears hired Phil Emery and he's working out ok so far


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