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chiefzilla1501 05-05-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9660903)
Spending a first round pick on a 27 year old guard isn't rediculous?

WTF?

What could be worse than that?

Let's be real about what the motivation of this thread is.

It's to claim that Reid is a shitty drafter. And that he overvalues offensive linemen. You're right on the 27 year old part, but let's not pretend that was the motivation for this thread.

Reid wasn't the guy calling the shots. And a Guard is fine to take at this spot, if the argument was to claim they reached for that position. So this thread is completely pointless.

jAZ 05-06-2013 02:56 AM

And the CFL headline is lame. The author just thows that into the article without any support for the claim, other than the player is Canadian.

In fact, the author all but dismisses the CFL suggestion saying "A more logical landing spot, if he's sent packing, is the Kansas City Chiefs under Andy Reid, who drafted Watkins in Philly."

ChiefRocka 05-06-2013 06:24 AM

Howie Roseman has had final say on Eagles draft selections since 2009 or so says Philly radio.

Rasputin 05-06-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9660917)
Let's be real about what the motivation of this thread is.

It's to claim that Reid is a shitty drafter. And that he overvalues offensive linemen. You're right on the 27 year old part, but let's not pretend that was the motivation for this thread.

Reid wasn't the guy calling the shots. And a Guard is fine to take at this spot, if the argument was to claim they reached for that position. So this thread is completely pointless.

Eh I call BS if you are saying Andy Reid didn't have any say in that draft pick and if he didn't want the guy in the end he wouldn't have been the pick. Andy Reid had too much respect to not have any say in the draft picks.

mikey23545 05-06-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9660917)
Let's be real about what the motivation of this thread is.

It's to claim that Reid is a shitty drafter. And that he overvalues offensive linemen. You're right on the 27 year old part, but let's not pretend that was the motivation for this thread.

Reid wasn't the guy calling the shots. And a Guard is fine to take at this spot, if the argument was to claim they reached for that position. So this thread is completely pointless.


Yep.

Titty Meat 05-06-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9660981)
And the CFL headline is lame. The author just thows that into the article without any support for the claim, other than the player is Canadian.

In fact, the author all but dismisses the CFL suggestion saying "A more logical landing spot, if he's sent packing, is the Kansas City Chiefs under Andy Reid, who drafted Watkins in Philly."

Strange Chiefzilla was telling us Reid didn't draft him.

chiefzilla1501 05-06-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9661065)
Strange Chiefzilla was telling us Reid didn't draft him.

Nobody said Reid wanted him except guessing he'd be interested in an ex player. And picking up a guard for cheap ddepth is different than drafting a guy with your #23 pick.

You do know that Reid benched Watkins and has been publicly critical of his play, right?

chiefzilla1501 05-06-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9661042)
Eh I call BS if you are saying Andy Reid didn't have any say in that draft pick and if he didn't want the guy in the end he wouldn't have been the pick. Andy Reid had too much respect to not have any say in the draft picks.

Joe banner became very unpopular. There is a reason he was fired. Reid was pissed he had no say in personnel decisions, especially with both banner and Rosemanbeing strong personnel guys who wanted their hands on eeverything.

Google Reid and banner and you'll find more than enough links to show that banner was fired because Reid wasn't happy about personnel decisions and how little say he had.

Rasputin 05-06-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9661353)
Joe banner became very unpopular. There is a reason he was fired. Reid was pissed he had no say in personnel decisions, especially with both banner and Rosemanbeing strong personnel guys who wanted their hands on eeverything.

Google Reid and banner and you'll find more than enough links to show that banner was fired because Reid wasn't happy about personnel decisions and how little say he had.

So that doesn't excuse any future shitty picks Reid and Dorsey may have for us in the coming years.

Dave Lane 05-06-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9660499)
Our OL is set now if Albert is re-signed. So we wont have to worry about spending our 2014 1st round pick on a OL.

:LOL:LMAOLMAOROFL

and no, count on OL in the 1st.

Dave Lane 05-06-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9661331)
You do know that Reid benched Watkins and has been publicly critical of his play, right?

Link?

chiefzilla1501 05-06-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9661360)
So that doesn't excuse any future shitty picks Reid and Dorsey may have for us in the coming years.

I never said that. In kc, it sounds like he has a very strong voice on personnel and should be held accountable for personnel decisions, including and especially the QB.

But this thread is directly implying that Watkins getting cut is a black eye on Reid. That is completely inaccurate.

chiefzilla1501 05-06-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9661371)
Link?

Do I really have to do this?

A few games into his rookie season the Eagles signed a waiver wire pickup and benched Watkins.

Months after Joe Banner was fired, the Eagles signed Jake scott . Scott started over Watkins.

Does it sound to you like Andy Reid thought highly of him?

Eyemsougly 05-06-2013 12:34 PM

<i> Reid did not pick Watkins, his personnel guys did</i>

Oh yes he did. You should have heard Reid gushing over him in the post draft press conference.

Sometimes picks don't work out. I can assure you that of all the stupid things Reid did in his 14 years in Philly, drafting Watkins doesn't even make the top 5.

As for Watkins, he isn't a bum or anything. There are loads of starting guards that he is better than. He physically dominates but struggles with the mental part of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes on this season. If he gets cut, I'd love for him to come to KC cause we need depth on the OL with the loss of Winston and Lilja.

I also think he is out of position at guard. If he were to be moved back to tackle I think he'd flourish. Particularly in a more conventional blocking scheme then the one he was playing in under Mudd.


Re. BPA: It is a stupid strategy because it assumes that all positions are of equal value, which is false. Reid always <i>says</i> he wants the BPA, but in practice he has a preference for linemen and QBs. I was really surprised/disappointed that he didn't take a Dlineman and only took one pass rusher.

Eyemsougly 05-06-2013 12:38 PM

<i>A few games into his rookie season the Eagles signed a waiver wire pickup and benched Watkins.</i>

You are thinking of the unlamented Kyle Devan. He was signed before the season because Mudd had worked with him in Indy. He started a few games while Watkins (who had held out of Training Camp) absorbed the offense. As soon as Watkins was able to start, Devan was sent to the bench. Watkins started the rest of season and continued to start until late in the following season.


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