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redbrian 10-05-2008 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5083019)
There is a lot of truth to this thread. MU fans are enjoying it while it lasts because they havent won a national championship in anything relevant for a long long long time.....if ever, I dunno, I havent been alive since 1900.

Basketball once was their respectable sport while Norm was around.....even though he didnt do anything great. He was the Marty Schottenheimer of NCAA Bball. And their football program has been terrible to average for many many years.

This year they finally have the pieces to make a run for a national title. Their offense is the best in the country (I think at least) they have 2 heisman hopefuls along with 2-3 all american players.

This is their year to do it all if theyre gonna do it because if they don't do it this season, they won't do it for a long time. They may come close, but this offense is taylor made for Chase Daniel......he knows the offense like the back of his hand.

Whats better is that MU can run the ball and they can run it well, which makes this offense nearly unstoppable.

But once Daniel, Maclin, and Coffman are gone, This offense isn't going to be anywhere close to what is was this and last season.

I made this same argument to my dad this past basketball season, I told him if KU is going to win a national title they better do it this season because they have the talent to do so and everyone would be leaving after the season regardless.

The same goes for MU fball this season.

MU gets a 5 star recruit here and there. Texas and OU are flooded with the best talent in the NCAA year after year. OU and TX are always ranked in the preseason, usually top 10.

Unfortunately I don't see MU being ranked at all next season.....at least to start out with.
MU is loaded in the underclass......they have played every game and are gaining experince......next year no let down......

Saul Good 10-05-2008 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085485)
That's not much compared to the programs you so desperately want to defeat.
You mean the program we just humiliated in their own stadium on homecoming?

Sam Hall 10-05-2008 04:26 PM
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.

gblowfish 10-05-2008 04:27 PM
Read it and weep.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pag...u_sid=10450989

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2008 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.
Like Army?

Sam Hall 10-05-2008 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5085522)
Like Army?
Nobody goes to Army to play football.

Frazod 10-05-2008 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.
You and kc_connected would make a lovely couple. You really should start dating.

redbrian 10-05-2008 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.
NU has not been a powerhouse for a long time...they are in the past...they are starting from scratch and have a very long haul before kids will be flocking to play for NU again....

cdcox 10-05-2008 04:37 PM
Why tradition will not matter in the Nebraska rebuild
 
You rebuild by good recruiting and then making the most of your talent. Tradition can help with recruiting, but only while you are good (or at least percieved to be). Tradition will help Ohio State get better atheletes than Missouri gets, even if Missouri ends up ranked higher. Tradition can help a sucky Penn State team, because there are lots of blue chip players in Pennsylvania, and the idea of helping the Nittny Lions return to greatness is appealing to large numbers of potential recruits. Tradition can help Miami Florida because 1) they are recruiting in talent rich Florida 2) they are recruiting nationally, and 3) lots of kids might like the idea of going to school in Florida.

Nebraska is demographically screwed. Among their fans that want to see them return to greatness are a very few blue chip prospects. To succeed, Nebraska has to recruit nationally. The tradition of Nebraska football isn't going to mean much to these kids; they didn't grow up with it. As years go by, they might not even be aware of it. And you have geography working against you. Who wants to go to college in Nebraska? Your tradition was a resource at one time. I don't think it means squat right now.

I'm not saying Nebraska will never be good again. I'm saying that your tradition isn't going to help in that process. You are in the same situation that any other team is that has aspirations of greatness. You're going to have to do it the hard way, one recruit at a time. One game at a time. Gains will be followed by set backs. There is no guarantees of success. Nebraska has squandered its birth right.

Sure-Oz 10-05-2008 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.
Enjoy your past tradition bullshit, while MU is doing well....we all know the chiefs had a tradition of getting to the playoffs every year in the 90's, wtf has that done for the Chiefs lately? About as much as Nebraska has done since the option was relevant. Enjoy being the new ND, with your tradition.

the Talking Can 10-05-2008 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.

your whining and crying is embarrassing in the same way this is embarrassing:

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Ebolapox 10-05-2008 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085528)
Nobody goes to Army to play football.
yeah, but... at one point, they had as much if not MORE tradition than anybody in history--does that mean they are still in the spotlight?

cdcox 10-05-2008 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5085514)
I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.
The traditions of Notre Dame and Nebraska are no where near equivalent. Who ever made a hollywood movie about Nebraska football?

What world-wide religion considers playing for Nebrasaka a holy calling?

gblowfish 10-05-2008 04:44 PM
Did I mention Sam Hall can kiss my lemony fresh ass?

Sam Hall 10-05-2008 04:45 PM
You guys will continue to crave wins against Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas. It's because they have things you don't have. Gary Pinkel and Ron Prince talked about being like Nebraska when they were hired.

As for me whining? You didn't see what I was saying all week. I thought Mizzou would win big. Nebraska will only win three more games this season.


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