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Oh Snap 11-05-2012 02:47 PM

I have lost all confidence in Pioli. He doesn't know what the hell he is doing. Time for a change...

BigMeatballDave 11-05-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 9087139)
Someone pull up Carrs PFF rating. There's talk of him sucking it up for Dallas, but as one who watches all the cowboys games I don't see it. Dallas gives up crap over the middle vs zone but Carr isn't thrown at often. In fact he looks to be iimproved over what he showed here, and he was pretty good here.

He was good with the Chiefs, that's all I care about.

CarrOnCruzControl 11-19-2012 09:46 AM

I just wanted to pop in and say hey. I'm a Cowboys fan and I really do come in peace.
I check out other teams forums regarding our free agent signings to get a feel of what the fans' preception of that player was.

I really wanted Carr this off season, over Finnegan, because of the age / upside / better overall attitude. I was thrilled we got him and I know how you all feel losing a player dear to your hearts.

He's done very well for us and speaks very highly of his time with the Chiefs. He always talks about how your organization gave him a chance.

I'm glad to see him used all over the field here. He's played LCB, RCB, SCB and Safety and done well.

Through these first 10 games of the season he's given up 26 receptions on 44 targets (59% comp) for 379 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT and 6 PDs... which I'm very impressed with given the QBs in our Division, and the fact that he's on an entirely new defense... and going up against #1 WRs. Just 37 yards given up a game? I can definitely live with that.

Now my question, because I didn't watch many of your games, is who was the primary safety backing him up?

Our safeties have been banged up, so I'm curious if he played with the help of Berry? If not, that would make sense as to why he's doing well here despite our damaged D.

Thanks for your time.

Lex Luthor 11-19-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarrOnCruzControl (Post 9132855)
I just wanted to pop in and say hey. I'm a Cowboys fan and I really do come in peace.
I check out other teams forums regarding our free agent signings to get a feel of what the fans' preception of that player was.

I really wanted Carr this off season, over Finnegan, because of the age / upside / better overall attitude. I was thrilled we got him and I know how you all feel losing a player dear to your hearts.

He's done very well for us and speaks very highly of his time with the Chiefs. He always talks about how your organization gave him a chance.

I'm glad to see him used all over the field here. He's played LCB, RCB, SCB and Safety and done well.

Through these first 10 games of the season he's given up 26 receptions on 44 targets (59% comp) for 379 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT and 6 PDs... which I'm very impressed with given the QBs in our Division, and the fact that he's on an entirely new defense... and going up against #1 WRs. Just 37 yards given up a game? I can definitely live with that.

Now my question, because I didn't watch many of your games, is who was the primary safety backing him up?

Our safeties have been banged up, so I'm curious if he played with the help of Berry? If not, that would make sense as to why he's doing well here despite our damaged D.

Thanks for your time.

Last year he got no help from Eric Berry. Berry blew out his ACL early in the season.

Damn it, Egoli!

mcaj22 11-19-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarrOnCruzControl (Post 9132855)
I just wanted to pop in and say hey. I'm a Cowboys fan and I really do come in peace.
I check out other teams forums regarding our free agent signings to get a feel of what the fans' preception of that player was.

I really wanted Carr this off season, over Finnegan, because of the age / upside / better overall attitude. I was thrilled we got him and I know how you all feel losing a player dear to your hearts.

He's done very well for us and speaks very highly of his time with the Chiefs. He always talks about how your organization gave him a chance.

I'm glad to see him used all over the field here. He's played LCB, RCB, SCB and Safety and done well.

Through these first 10 games of the season he's given up 26 receptions on 44 targets (59% comp) for 379 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT and 6 PDs... which I'm very impressed with given the QBs in our Division, and the fact that he's on an entirely new defense... and going up against #1 WRs. Just 37 yards given up a game? I can definitely live with that.

Now my question, because I didn't watch many of your games, is who was the primary safety backing him up?

Our safeties have been banged up, so I'm curious if he played with the help of Berry? If not, that would make sense as to why he's doing well here despite our damaged D.

Thanks for your time.

he played with absolute dogshit at safety his entire career as a Chief. He had one year with Berry at SS but even than that wasnt on his side. He played with guys like Kendrick Lewis (a horrible 5th round pick), Jarrad Page (scrub), Bernie Pollard, Sabby Piscitelli, Jon McGraw, MIKE ****ING BROWN. Yes that Mike Brown from the Bears. just a rotating cast of a pile of shit players at safety. He never had any talent behind him and pretty much progressed as a good corner entirely on his own without the help of any talent on this team on the back end, that's for sure.

Chief_For_Life58 11-19-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9132895)
he played with absolute dogshit at safety his entire career as a Chief. He had one year with Berry at SS but even than that wasnt on his side. He played with guys like Kendrick Lewis (a horrible 5th round pick), Jarrad Page (scrub), Bernie Pollard, Sabby Piscitelli, Jon McGraw, MIKE ****ING BROWN. Yes that Mike Brown from the Bears. just a rotating cast of a pile of shit players at safety. He never had any talent behind him and pretty much progressed as a good corner entirely on his own without the help of any talent on this team on the back end, that's for sure.

lol

mcaj22 11-19-2012 10:04 AM

laugh but it's true. sad but true

Quesadilla Joe 11-19-2012 10:08 AM

From PFW this week...

Quote:

• “What’s really interesting to me is what the Hunt family will do (this offseason). I think Clark (Hunt) will start leaning on some of the old regime and go back to what the people of Kansas City know and love. They never should have gotten rid of (former GM) Carl Peterson. It wasn’t like things were broken — they just decided they were going to change directions and it cost them.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...ntally-tougher

notorious 11-19-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9132936)

:facepalm:

Not you, but what you quoted.

mcaj22 11-19-2012 10:11 AM

Clark is really clueless outside of his circle of the same 10 guys that were relevant in 1996. and when he took a chance on the Patriots Tree he got exposed for what giant ****ing frauds they were. But I dont know how he didnt see that with how much failure there was already out there in Mangini, Romeo in Cleveland, Charlie Weiss everywhere, etc

htismaqe 11-19-2012 10:23 AM

Surely we don't deserve THAT.

Suffer through 4 years of hell only to GET CARL BACK?!?!?!

CarrOnCruzControl 11-19-2012 10:37 AM

Ah thanks for the insight. I completely forgot about Berry's injury.
Sensabaugh is not a bad safety by any means, but the other side has been a turnstile with injuries this season.

Funny. Carr went from one (Eric) Berry to another Barry (Church) at safety.

Hope everything works out for you guys. I enjoy watching Houston and Hali when I get the chance.

Beef Supreme 11-19-2012 10:49 AM

Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel — making fans long for the days of Carl Peterson and Marty Shottenheimer

FloridaMan88 11-19-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

• “What’s really interesting to me is what the Hunt family will do (this offseason). I think Clark (Hunt) will start leaning on some of the old regime and go back to what the people of Kansas City know and love. They never should have gotten rid of (former GM) Carl Peterson. It wasn’t like things were broken — they just decided they were going to change directions and it cost them.”
A 2-14 record in today's NFL is the definition of things being broken... even if it was a so called "rebuilding year" (the record of Dictator Carl's final team in KC).

This article also overlooks the fact the Chiefs had only two playoff appearances in the final 10 years of Dictator Carl's tenure in KC and had not won a playoff game in the final 15 years of Dictator Carl's tenure.

Chris Meck 11-19-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9132953)
Clark is really clueless outside of his circle of the same 10 guys that were relevant in 1996. and when he took a chance on the Patriots Tree he got exposed for what giant ****ing frauds they were. But I dont know how he didnt see that with how much failure there was already out there in Mangini, Romeo in Cleveland, Charlie Weiss everywhere, etc

Listen, it's clear that Pioli was not the great hire it was purported to be, but at the time it was a near consensus home run. You can't act like everyone saw this coming.

Clearly, as another cp poster said, the 'Patriot Way' is stumbling onto Tom Brady in the 6th round and little else matters. In 2008, the jury was very much out on that.

The actual facts of the situation are bad enough.


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