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mcaj22 11-05-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9086090)
I wish it had been possible to keep Carr and Gonzalez, and I really hope Bowe and Albert stay, but to be honest until they get a QB that can drop and accurately pass downfield this discussion is meaningless. I'm more upset that they didn't resign Orton than Carr.

Sitting here in Atlanta watching Matt Ryan everyweek it is easy to see that Cassel and Quinn are a waste of time. Who cares what CB leaves when your QB cannot execute plays over 10 yards. And it is good to see Gonzo getting to play with a real QB.


because if you dont have a good QB or arent in a position to get one, you can still spend the NEXT FOUR SEASONS STACKING YOUR ROSTER AT POSITIONAL TALENT until you bring in a good young QB or a veteran guy.

see: 49ers, Vikings, Texans, Broncos, Miami, etc

BlackHelicopters 11-05-2012 11:20 AM

Sorry if this question already asked. What has Pioli accomplished?

*crickets*

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9086111)
because if you dont have a good QB or arent in a position to get one, you can still spend the NEXT FOUR SEASONS STACKING YOUR ROSTER AT POSITIONAL TALENT until you bring in a good young QB or a veteran guy.

see: 49ers, Vikings, Texans, Broncos, Miami, etc

If we were going to do that you could have replaced Broncos with Chiefs, but since we have Pissoli it aint happening. Going to have to suck and draft a QB high, that is if Pissoli will do that.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9086120)
Sorry if this question already asked. What has Pioli accomplished?

*crickets*

BS!

He made Clark a shitload of money.

sedated 11-05-2012 11:21 AM

Imagine how badly he is going to get ripped after he lets Bowe walk.

mcaj22 11-05-2012 11:24 AM

hes losing somebody decent in the offseason, and i hope this entire board finally hates him because of it.

because hes going to lose one of the clearly good players left on this team for nothing, and because it isnt one of his draft picks, he doesnt care.

Imon Yourside 11-05-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9086143)
hes losing somebody decent in the offseason, and i hope this entire board finally hates him because of it.

because hes going to lose one of the clearly good players left on this team for nothing, and because it isnt one of his draft picks, he doesnt care.

Wait a minute, who here doesn't hate him? I must have missed something.

Chief Faithful 11-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9086111)
because if you dont have a good QB or arent in a position to get one, you can still spend the NEXT FOUR SEASONS STACKING YOUR ROSTER AT POSITIONAL TALENT until you bring in a good young QB or a veteran guy.

see: 49ers, Vikings, Texans, Broncos, Miami, etc

They may not have been in position to draft a good QB, but they were definitely in position to upgrade the position with Orton. The overall talent level of this team is fine.

carlos3652 11-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9086023)
Pioli traded TG, that was one of his first moves after he traded for Matt Cassel and drafted Tyson Jackson

Thanks - sorry, thought of Allen for whatever reason...

Although TG wanted gone anyways...

mcaj22 11-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9086150)
Wait a minute, who here doesn't hate him? I must have missed something.


there are still many that defend his drafting and FA selection with the Cassel defense. (aka but the jury is still out on Piolis skill players because they dont have a QB)

that is essentially defending Pioli that he actually drafts talent. But they will see the light soon

mcaj22 11-05-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9086154)
They may not have been in position to draft a good QB, but they were definitely in position to upgrade the position with Orton. The overall talent level of this team is fine.

but the talent level is not fine. which is why we are 1-7, the worst in the league, getting blown out of games and is also the SUBJECT and theme of this very thread and the OP. Talent walking for nothing

if there was overall talent they would win some games. Like 5-11, 6-10, 7-9 type wins. Like teams with talent but bad coaching do. The 49ers, Dolphins, etc

we are Detroit Lions 0-16 bad or last years Colts or Rams bad. Where the roster not only will need a whole new staff and a young QB but a complete ****ing overhaul of talent like those teams did.

rabblerouser 11-05-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9086120)
Sorry if this question already asked. What has Pioli accomplished?

*crickets*


resigned a bunch of people from the Vermeil and Herm eras, and he's hit on a 3rd rd LB and a 7th rd kicker (that was a replacement for someone just as good that he either cut or let walk.)

Fired a real good YOUNG HC and replaced him with a fat blitering yes-man, alienated an entire fanbase, and has reduced the Kansas City Chiefs to the absolutely worst team in the league, a literal laughingstock of a franchise.

EDIT : Traded the greatest TE in NFL history durin his prime for a draft pick that he used on a decent special teamer with questionable cover skills. That has to be mentioned.

Saccopoo 11-05-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9086125)
BS!

He made Clark a shitload of money.

No he didn't.

The television contract made Clark a shit ton of money.

Pioli is actually costing Clark money. Seats, parking, concessions, merchandise, etc. The more the Chiefs suck, the less people are buying of all that stuff.

gblowfish 11-05-2012 11:52 AM

I'd much rather have paid for a slightly scorched Brandon Carr than a fully toasted Fred Sanford.

rabblerouser 11-05-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9086160)
but the talent level is not fine. which is why we are 1-7, the worst in the league, getting blown out of games and is also the SUBJECT and theme of this very thread and the OP. Talent walking for nothing

if there was overall talent they would win some games. Like 5-11, 6-10, 7-9 type wins. Like teams with talent but bad coaching do. The 49ers, Dolphins, etc

we are Detroit Lions 0-16 bad or last years Colts or Rams bad. Where the roster not only will need a whole new staff and a young QB but a complete ****ing overhaul of talent like those teams did.

it's true - there is NO depth and glaring holes.

QB, Defensive back, and D-line are places of weakness. The top-end talent (Bowe, Charles, Flowers, the Starting LBs) is negated by the lack of depth and lack of surrounding talent, bottom line. Couple that with the lack of direction by the coaching staff, and - presto! 1-7.

Hell, if NO hadn't been reeling from losing their coach, we'd never have beaten them. We certainly wouldn't be able to beat them at this point of the season.


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