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chiefzilla1501 12-10-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9197639)
This team still needs:

3 QBs
1 RB
1 FB
2 WR
2 TE
OL depth
2 DEs
ILB
2 CBs
A starting FS and safety depth
And a kicker

That's BS. No team is going to have great players at every position. And to say we can't compete because we don't have backup QBs is wrong. If we really think guys like Arenas and Kendrick Lewis and Siler or Moeaki/Boss are what's holding us back from a Super Bowl, we're kidding ourselves. Those are nice guys to upgrade, but you can build a championship team in spite of those guys.

Ceej 12-10-2012 06:04 PM

Our o-line and LBs aren't too bad.

Everything else needs severe tweaking.

The Franchise 12-10-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9197646)
That's BS. No team is going to have great players at every position. And to say we can't compete because we don't have backup QBs is wrong. If we really think guys like Arenas and Kendrick Lewis and Siler or Moeaki/Boss are what's holding us back from a Super Bowl, we're kidding ourselves. Those are nice guys to upgrade, but you can build a championship team in spite of those guys.

Dude....I never said we needed great players at all of those positions (outside of QB). That's my opinion on what this team is lacking.

Boss is done. That guy is a walking injury. Moeaki hasn't really done shit. Arenas is a decent NB....not a starter. Lewis sucks dick.....he needs to be replaced.

chiefzilla1501 12-10-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9197660)
Dude....I never said we needed great players at all of those positions (outside of QB). That's my opinion on what this team is lacking.

Boss is done. That guy is a walking injury. Moeaki hasn't really done shit. Arenas is a decent NB....not a starter. Lewis sucks dick.....he needs to be replaced.

Then you're right. But I think most of us want to rattle a list off of stuff we need, when we have to talk about "stuff that's really hurting us." TEs, for example... nice to have, but it's not going to stop us from being competitive.

OnTheWarpath15 12-10-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9197640)
This is the same team that went 7-9 last year with basically the same players and an average QB. The talent is even better this year than last year.

2012: We don't get to play Caleb Hanie every week.

So in 4 years, we have a 4 win season and a likely 2 win season, with a 10 win season against one of the weakest schedules in the history of the NFL (something like .420, IIRC) and a 7 win season in which 5 of those wins came against backup or third string QB's.

You're severely overestimating the level of "talent" on this roster.

The Franchise 12-10-2012 06:09 PM

A good TE will be nice to have with a rookie QB.

RealSNR 12-10-2012 06:10 PM

Did Ryan Succop murder his girlfriend then shoot himself in the face this weekend?

I missed the game. Honestly. Why does EVERYBODY say we need a new kicker?

The dude is 6/7 from 40 yards+ this year. 17/21 total.

I call that a pretty good field goal kicker.

stonedstooge 12-10-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9197639)
This team still needs:

3 QBs
1 RB
1 FB
2 WR
2 TE
OL depth
2 DEs
ILB
2 CBs
A starting FS and safety depth
And a kicker

Add to that a punter. Not signed for next year so he's gone unless they franchise him

RealSNR 12-10-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9197639)
This team still needs:

3 QBs
1 RB
1 FB
2 WR
2 TE
OL depth
2 DEs
ILB
2 CBs
A starting FS and safety depth
And a kicker

Get me one of those QBs, our old starting LT and WR, a starting CB, and a HC who doesn't suck this offseason.

I would call that a pretty good team if we can have that this offseason. Might take awhile to actually win games due to the rookie QB, but that's hardly total rebuild material right there.

The only thing that needs to be rebuilt is the defensive line, and I'd rather we do that gradually instead of rushing into shit like we always do.

That honestly might have been Pioli's worst problem. He started the job and his first goal was "FIX TEH DEFENSIVE LINE!!!!11"

He made several stupid and hasty picks, and it still hasn't worked.

OnTheWarpath15 12-10-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9197641)
The offensive line is better, other than that everything else is a push.

I was going to say the pass rush was better, until I looked at the numbers.

They are barely ahead of 2009's pace, and behind last year's. And WAY behind 2010's numbers.

Prison Bitch 12-10-2012 06:17 PM

I would think any NFL job would be great. There are only 32 of em.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-10-2012 06:33 PM

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Podcast is up

Discuss Thrower 12-10-2012 06:36 PM

Guise, Ed Heartwell is buying a house in Leawood

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-10-2012 06:37 PM

Jason Thinks Todd Haley might be the new HC of the Cards.

BigMeatballDave 12-10-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9197760)
Jason Thinks Todd Haley might be the new HC of the Cards.

Can we get Ken?


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