Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370404)

It's not about how you've rated the QBs one against the other, unless you're talking about including Glennon, Manuel, Nassib, and Dysert along with the other 3.

It's about how comfortable you are gambling that you get NONE of the 3 you listed.

While it's not likely that Geno, Wilson, and Barkley go 1-2-3, it's absolutely possible. You're taking a risk that all you're left with is Glennon or some equally shitty option.

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9370407)

Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders, and Eagles will all be looking for new QBs. Those are the first four picks in the draft. Then you have the Cardinals that might trade up. Both the Browns and Chargers have new regimes and may look for new QBs. Both the Jets and the Buccaneers may also look for a new QB. That's within the top 15. It's idiotic to take the risk and miss out on either Geno, Wilson, or Barkley. Extra draft picks mean doodly shit if you do not have a franchise QB.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9370239)

Hypothetical Scenario in which Sorter= GM for KC

Just another day in the office, getting ready for the draft. Sends ***** an email saying "**** you, pillowbiter."

All of a sudden, a wild phone rings. *ring, ring*

"Hello, this is Sorter. Who's this?"

"Hi Sorter, this is Chip Kelly. I'd like to talk to you about the availability of your first round pick"

"...Could you hang on just one minute for me, Chip? Thanks."

...a minute passes...

*phone picked back up* "Hey Chip, I have someone who'd like to speak to you." (to another person) "Yeah, sure go ahead and tell him"

"Hello Chip, this is Geno Smith. Go **** yourself."

"Any questions Chip?"

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9370420)

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Will there be better QBs in next year's draft? I don't know.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9370367)

That's reeruned. If you can get Wilson at #4 - and you can - along with the #36 pick and a first next year, then you're reeruned for taking him #1.

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9370420)

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Will there be better QBs in next year's draft? I don't know.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9370430)

He didn't say that. He said that he won't get a call from Reid/Dorsey saying they were wrong and there's a sure-thing, can't miss prospect in this draft. And he's right.

That doesn't mean you don't take a QB, and I think this whole trade scenario works only if you still take a QB at #4.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370404)

It's not about how you've rated the QBs one against the other, unless you're talking about including Glennon, Manuel, Nassib, and Dysert along with the other 3.

It's about how comfortable you are gambling that you get NONE of the 3 you listed.

While it's not likely that Geno, Wilson, and Barkley go 1-2-3, it's absolutely possible. You're taking a risk that all you're left with is Glennon or some equally shitty option.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9370425)

And what happens if he's gone before #4?

That's when you get into what the Browns GM called the Weeden pick.....a "panicked disaster".

Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 9370444)

Hypothetical: Easy answer. You do what the chargers did with Eli and Rivers. You take Geno at number 1. Have the Eagles take Wilson at four and then finalize the trade.

Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 9370444)

Hypothetical: Easy answer. You do what the chargers did with Eli and Rivers. You take Geno at number 1. Have the Eagles take Wilson at four and then finalize the trade.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9370441)

I'm no higher on Wilson than I am Barkley. To me, they are a distant 2A and 2B behind Geno.

If the Chiefs took Barkley, I would be in no way more disappointed than if they took Wilson.

If they aren't taking Geno, then my emotions go way down.

Barkley + #34, #36, and two firsts next year

Wilson + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.

To me, they're the same.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9370465)

And that's only if they like Barkley. The OP stated that they had Wilson and Smith rated equally.

So.....what happens when you trade down to #4 and Wilson goes #2 or #3? What the **** do we do then? Do we reach for Barkley (if they don't have him rated as high) or do you take a player that you now have to find a spot for?