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BigRedChief 12-11-2014 08:45 PM

***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread***
 
2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance

  • Made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

TLO 12-11-2014 08:45 PM

Royals > Cardinals

lewdog 12-11-2014 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 11185971)
Royals > Cardinals

:facepalm:

BigRedChief 12-11-2014 08:47 PM

I know its a long shot but Its not unrealistic but why not Shurzer?.

Why are Waino, Holliday, Carp etc calling him if they don't think its a possibility, even if its a long shot. Numbers.............Follow along......

2014 Opening day payroll: $111 Million
2011 Opening day payroll: $109 Million

The Cardinals have pocketed some profits the last few years thanks to their young low paid talent. Goold says the Cardinals could afford a $150 payroll this year. Make the debt payments on the stadium and still profit $20 million.

These $68.6 million salaries are coming off the books in the next few years

2015
Garcia's $9.375 million

2016
Holliday $17 million

2017
Peralta $10 milliom
Molina $14.2 Million

2018
Wainwright $18.2 Million

Committed payroll
2015 : $97,125
2016 : $72.700
2017 : $57.200
2018 : $33.250

Baseball has a new TV contract and license/sponsorship rates. Here's whats predicted for the cost or WAR.

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8.2
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7.3%
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8.8
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7.3%
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9.4
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7.3%
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2018
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10.0
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6.4%
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2019
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10.6
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6.4%
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2020
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11.3
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6.4%
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So why can't we commit this new money to a top of the line pitcher. Thats $75 - $150 million of new money through 2020. We still have the cap space above to pay the other players.

Again, why not pay Schurzer $25 million/7 years, $175 million total. We have the room to not hamstring us down the road.

I'm thinking we realistically have 2 years left in the window. In 2017 Holliday is gone. Peralta, Molina and Waino are done or on their last legs. Why not give it our best shot to win another WS in the next two year window?
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BigRedChief 12-11-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 11185971)
Royals > Cardinals

WTF dude, 2nd post?:doh!:

TLO 12-11-2014 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11185981)
WTF dude, 2nd post?:doh!:

:deevee:

BigRedChief 12-11-2014 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 11185990)
:deevee:

Royals fans and any other fans are always welcome to talk baseball and when we play each other friendly smack.

What we don't tolerate is people coming into this thread taking dumps or trolling. It's been that way forever on here. You don't want to follow the established social etiquette? Put the thread on ignore.

bdj23 12-11-2014 08:55 PM

In

Pasta Little Brioni 12-11-2014 08:57 PM

We know all that dude

Marcellus 12-11-2014 08:58 PM

Mark Reynolds. Print em.

Jewish Rabbi 12-11-2014 09:24 PM

We didn't make it to the World Series in 2012. But we did in 2013.

BigRedChief 12-11-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 11186083)
We didn't make it to the World Series in 2012. But we did in 2013.

Only I could screw up a copy and paste.

ChiefsCountry 12-11-2014 09:28 PM

Please find some extra money and sign Scherzer.

TribalElder 12-11-2014 09:31 PM

Front page

Jewish Rabbi 12-11-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11186087)
Only I could screw up a copy and paste.

Still Backwards kinda. One win away from Series in '12, two away from World Series win in '13.

Maybe you should post some more pictures of girls with clothes on and off. ;)


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