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Nightfyre 12-31-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9261836)
Seems like an easy solution to me...

- Geno Smith

+ Tyler Wilson

Fixed.

the Talking Can 01-01-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9261836)
Seems like an easy solution to me...

- Geno Smith

+ Tyler Wilson/Matt Barkley


yeah, it's not as interesting a question as it seemed when i was high...

Saccopoo 01-01-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9263672)
yeah, it's not as interesting a question as it seemed when i was high...

ROFL

I really don't see another option other than Geno.

However, here's a hypothetical:

I believe that Alex Smith is going to be the major veteran QB acquisition this off-season for teams thinking that they need a guy sooner rather than later or that don't feel that the talent level is available in the draft equal to what Smith offers.

He's got a two years left on a three year deal worth $24 million that has $7.5 million on it for 2013 & 2014. Bonus aren't anything to worry about. It's not a ridiculous contract for a starting QB who was leading the league in completion percentage and QB rating in 2012. He won't stretch the field but he's an accurate short and mid guy who is capable of spreading it around quickly. Good athlete as well.

Arizona
NY Jets
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Cleveland
Kansas City

Would have to be considered as teams that will take a look at Smith.

If the Chiefs went that route, and kept the 34 defensive alignment that they are currently set up to run and they have to keep the pick, my mock would potentially look like this:

1. Dee Milliner, CB; Alabama
2. Justin Hunter, WR; Tennessee
3. Lance Jones, QB; Oklahoma
4. Margus Hunt, DE; SMU
5. Kiko Alonso, ILB; Oregon
6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama
7. Brad McDougald, S; Kansas

whoman69 01-01-2013 02:15 PM

Chiefs have gotten the plug in QB for their entire history. It needs to stop.

Saccopoo 01-01-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9264565)
Chiefs have gotten the plug in QB for their entire history. It needs to stop.

1,000,000,000% agree.

the Talking Can 01-01-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9263985)
ROFL

I really don't see another option other than Geno.

However, here's a hypothetical:

I believe that Alex Smith is going to be the major veteran QB acquisition this off-season for teams thinking that they need a guy sooner rather than later or that don't feel that the talent level is available in the draft equal to what Smith offers.

He's got a two years left on a three year deal worth $24 million that has $7.5 million on it for 2013 & 2014. Bonus aren't anything to worry about. It's not a ridiculous contract for a starting QB who was leading the league in completion percentage and QB rating in 2012. He won't stretch the field but he's an accurate short and mid guy who is capable of spreading it around quickly. Good athlete as well.

Arizona
NY Jets
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Cleveland
Kansas City

Would have to be considered as teams that will take a look at Smith.

If the Chiefs went that route, and kept the 34 defensive alignment that they are currently set up to run and they have to keep the pick, my mock would potentially look like this:

1. Dee Milliner, CB; Alabama
2. Justin Hunter, WR; Tennessee
3. Lance Jones, QB; Oklahoma
4. Margus Hunt, DE; SMU
5. Kiko Alonso, ILB; Oregon
6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama
7. Brad McDougald, S; Kansas

yeah, i was trying to tease out - i think - if you'd just take the next 'best' QB (say, wilson)...trade down, keep the pick and draft QB in the 2nd...etc.

smith and jones would depress the hell out of me

Saccopoo 01-01-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9265195)
yeah, i was trying to tease out - i think - if you'd just take the next 'best' QB (say, wilson)...trade down, keep the pick and draft QB in the 2nd...etc.

smith and jones would depress the hell out of me

Personally, I think that it's nearly mandatory that the Chiefs pursue Jason Campbell and I'd make sure that I kept Jim Zorn around as QB coach. Campbell had his best performances as a pro under Zorn. I think he's at the point in his career that he'd be willing to work as a #2 guy and I think he'd been exemplary in that role, especially an offense that was geared around Geno Smith.

And you could get him a lot cheaper than Smith's 7.5 million dollar salary.

And while Wilson is good, I'd be a little scared to draft him in the first round due to his injury history as well as his somewhat erratic performance this season. The concussions scare the hell out of me, especially when this guy is going to be the teams QBOTF. And he's basically the same guy as Geno (size, tough guy, got a little fire in him, good arm, etc.) and I think that Geno has better touch, delivery, accuracy and awareness. (Wilson takes some huge hits in the pocket a lot.)

And there isn't a defensive player or skill position offensive guy (LT, WR, RB) that is as good at their position as Geno is at his.

No, it's Geno and it's not close.

Saccopoo 01-13-2013 10:42 AM

Newly updated to reflect the near guaranteed move up the charts by Stedman Bailey, who most likely won't be available with the Chiefs fourth round pick.

Kruger gets the fourth round nod as Dorsey is most likely gone and Jackson has been less than stellar. As well Pit and Bailey haven't shown much over the 2012 season for the Chiefs. Kruger has the bloodlines, size, drive and skill.

Also re-added Blaize Foltz as the seventh rounder with the retirement of Lilja and the lack of progress by Asamoah and Allen during the 2012 season. Foltz is a beast and struggled with injuries the past two seasons, but when healthy, he can take over the point of attack.

NJChiefsFan 01-13-2013 11:01 PM

Well it certainly addresses our positions of need, in the order I would if all things are equal.

royr17 01-14-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9086108)
I'm projecting two third rounders for the Chiefs because of the Carr compensation.

1. Geno Smith, QB; WVU: 6'3", 225 lbs.

- Big arm with excellent ball placement. Prototype size. Superb pocket presence and accuracy. Exceptionally quick release with a high release point. Smart with excellent field vision. Smith has all the tools one looks for in a NFL franchise quarterback. WVU has lost three in a row and has the worst defense in D1 college football, but Geno is still the same guy he's been the past two and a half years as the Mountaineers starting QB.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1006/n...ith_bl_600.jpg

2. David Amerson, CB; NC State: 6'2", 195 lbs.

- Many considered Amerson as the top cornerback prospect entering the 2012 season. He had a couple bad games early and has dropped a bit. However, he's still tied for fourth nationally in interceptions and has superb size with excellent ball skills.

http://www.thedenradio.com/wp-conten...11/clemson.jpg

3. Phillip Thomas, S; Fresno State: 6'1", 215 lbs.

- Finished the season as everyone's first team All-American (the only non-BCS conference player on all five official All-American lists)after leading the country in interceptions (8) and interceptions returned for touchdowns (3) to go along with a number of forced fumbles, passes defensed, tackles for loss...you know, the whole enchilada. Not a one year wonder either as he's put up very good numbers his entire career. He'll be overshadowed in the draft by players like Rambo, McDonald, Lester and Reid, but Thomas is the real deal.

http://sicollegefootball.files.wordp...ip-thomas.jpeg

3. Shane Skov, ILB; Stanford: 6'3", 251 lbs.

- Could functionally play any of the linebacking positions in either a 34 or 43. Stanford's leading tackler for two straight years. A former five star prep recruit with a nose for the ball. A blown ACL in 2011 and a DUI arrrest in 2012 as well as MLB position will drop him in the draft. If he's there with this pick, it's would be a nice little coup for the Chiefs.

http://images.athlonsports.com/d/299...yneSkov300.jpg

4. Joe Kruger, DE/DT; Utah: 6'7", 280 lbs.

- The younger brother of Ravens DE/LB Paul, Joe is a physically bigger version of him. A workout warrior with a nose for the ball and a nasty streak, he'll play through the whistle. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012. Big frame and good athleticism. Anyone wanting SMU's Margus Hunt, this is a more polished, more experienced version that's been well coached and played against top level competition. Plays a lot like current Denver Bronco Derek Wolfe.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...e74zo1_500.jpg

5. Brad Sorensen, QB; Southern Utah: 6'4", 235 lbs.

- Sorensen, a three year starter for the Thunderbirds, is a three time First Team All-Conference selection and holder of every single school passing record but two. He has a cannon for an arm (might be the strongest arm in the entire draft class) coupled with good accuracy and very good pocket awareness along with a natural poise for the position. He'll need to get coached up and become acclimated to the speed of the game after playing in the FCS level, but he's got all the tools to be a very good NFL level prospect.

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.co...0919151044.jpg

6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama: 6'5", 278 lbs.

- A huge tight end with soft hands. Punishing in the run game. Will be interesting to see where he ends up in the draft. Could go high, but most likely will be available in the later rounds as he doesn't have the speed and versatility to be more than a blocker and red zone threat - but he should excel at both of those chores.

http://media.al.com/sports_impact/ph...2757-large.jpg

7. Blaize Foltz, OG; TCU: 6'4", 310 lbs.

- Even though Foltz was hampered by an ankle problem he was still voted 2nd Team All-Big 12. He possesses immense strength (Foltz can bench 580 lbs. and squat 800 lbs.) and can simply dominate the point of attack. Team leader with noted excellent work ethic, the Rose Hill, Kansas native already has his degree. Will participate in the 2013 East-West Shrine Bowl.

http://www.cbssports.com/images/coll...ize_Foltz.jpeg

Nice draft, there may be 2 extra picks for the chiefs from losing brandon carr (3rd round comp pick) and barry richardson (7th round comp pick) who would you select with those 2 picks ?

htismaqe 01-14-2013 09:43 AM

This is the best mock draft you've ever done.

royr17 01-14-2013 09:46 AM

Shayne Skov is returning to Stanford for his Senior year.

http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-...rning-stanford

Sorter 01-14-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9316873)
Shayne Skov is returning to Stanford for his Senior year.

http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-...rning-stanford

well, ****.

aturnis 01-14-2013 06:19 PM

No WR?

Saccopoo 01-14-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9316873)
Shayne Skov is returning to Stanford for his Senior year.

http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-...rning-stanford

Balls.

Goddammit. I really wanted him as a Chief this next year. He's looking for first round money obviously.

Redo.


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