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Old Dog 02-20-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9418908)
Mostly I'm trying to figure out how you came up with that answer, and how I can come up with other answers.

Hell, maybe I'm oversimplifying it (aka completely ****ing it up)

Jenson71 02-20-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9418933)
Yep. If you want a discrete solution, fill in 3 of them and leave the fourth as a variable, and Wolfram will calculate it.

How does it feel to be smart? Is it a burden at times?

Ace Gunner 02-20-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9418922)
Cheater!

this!:)

DaKCMan AP 02-20-2013 11:52 AM

There are multiple solutions, but a mix of:

1 - 0.575262544
2 - 0
3 - 0.252042008
4 - 0.172695448

Gives an ER of 0.065.


Solver is your friend. You have 4 unknowns, 2 equations, and conditions on the 4 unknowns.

Jenson71 02-20-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9418951)
I'm fairly certain there are multiple solutions, but a mix of:

1 - 0.575262544
2 - 0
3 - 0.252042008
4 - 0.172695448

Gives an ER of 0.065.

Did you figure that out doing the A(1.085)+B(1.092)+C(1.031)+D(1.048)=1.065 or did you use another method?

DaKCMan AP 02-20-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9418954)
Did you figure that out doing the A(1.085)+B(1.092)+C(1.031)+D(1.048)=1.065 or did you use another method?

That's the formula for expected return (you can also use the same formulat without the leading 1's, i.e. A(0.085) + B(0.092)...) and 1 of your two equations.

Your 2nd equation is A + B + C + D = 1.

Mike in SW-MO 02-20-2013 12:53 PM

You can use a mix of Investment 1 & I3 or I4 then a mix of I2 plus I3 or I4. That gives you 4 mixes. You can combine any of those solutions to make a fifth.
Use xI1 + (1-x)I3=.65 solve for x.

Substitute any 2 investment options above and below target.

prhom 02-20-2013 01:14 PM

It's just a question of weighted averages. You must have at least one of the investments that are higher than 6.5 and at least one of the investments that are less than 6.5. To actually solve this you need more information about total dollars invested, the maximum number of individual investments that can be made or a ratio of dollars invested between funds.

Coogs 02-20-2013 03:36 PM

If you just average your 4 percentages, you are close to begin with at 6.4%.

So let's say you invest $4000.

25%, or $1000, at each of the 4 rates....

1000 at 8.5% = 85.00
1000 at 9.2% = 92.00
1000 at 3.1% = 31.00
1000 at 4.8% = 48.00

for a total of 256.00.

256.00/4000 = .064 = 6.4%

260.00/4000 = .065 = 6.5%

So therefore you need to find a way to get $4.00 more back on you investment.

I'm going to use the 9.2% and the 4.8% and the 1000.00 at each rate

We made 140 dollars at those two rates combined. We need 144 dollars to get to 260 dollars.

X = amount invested at 9.2%
2000 - X = amount invested at 4.8%

.092X + .048(2000 - X) = 144.00
.092X + 96.00 - .048X = 144.00
.044X = 144.00 - 96.00
.044X = 48.00
X = 48.00/.044
X = 1090.91


2000 - 1090.91 = 909.09

What percent of 1000 is 1090.91?

109.1%

109.1% of your original investment, which was 25%, is

25 times 1.091 = 27.275

What percent of 1000 is 909.09?

90.9%

90.9% of you original investment, which was 25%, is

25 times .909 = 22.725

So, your your percentages to be invested at each rate to give you a 6.5% return...

25% of your money at 8.5%
25% of your money at 3.1%
27.275% of your money at 9.2%
22.725% of your money at 4.8%

This is just one solution, but it will work for any amount that you choose to invest.

Dayze 02-20-2013 03:36 PM

reading through this thread makes me realize how stupid I am.

Saul Good 02-20-2013 03:47 PM

You're making this too hard. You don't have to blend all four. It's a lot easier to blend 2 and put it into a simple algebraic equation.

For example, you can use holdings 1 (x) and 3 (y).

x(8.5) + y(3.1) = 6.5% is your equation.

Now, you have to express x in terms of y. Because x+y= 100% (1.00) of your investment, x=1.00-y

Now, you re-write the equation with only the y variable:

(1-y)(8.5)+y(3.1)=6.5

Do the multiplication:

8.5-8.5y+3.1y=6.5

Simplify further

8.5-5.4y=6.5

Subtract 6.5 from both sides of the equation

2-5.4y=0

Add 5.4y to both sides

2=5.4y

Divide both sides by 5.4 to solve for y

.37=y

37% of your investment should be in y. The rest (1-y) should be in x.

Check your work: .37(.031)+.63(.085)=.065

Jenson71 02-20-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9419607)
reading through this thread makes me realize how stupid I am.

Especially Coog and Saul Good. Give me a history book, and I'll have that subject mastered. Give me a few numbers, and I'll start to sweat.

Sorter 02-20-2013 03:54 PM

Yikes.

Dayze 02-20-2013 03:56 PM

no joke there.
my wifre is a wiz at math; but hates history.

I k now enough math do do my taxes and balance a checkbook.

Dartgod 02-20-2013 03:58 PM

The answer is....


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