*** OFFICIAL -SUNFLOWER SHOWDOWN- KSU vs. KU GAME THREAD***
 

...within 24 hours of tip. Let's do this.

Should be a great game.

gonna be one ugly ass game


low scoring dogfight

I think this team is ready to get back on track in front of a loud crowd tomorrow.

I still think it's going to be a great game.

If the team can't get up for this game, man...we are in serious trouble.

Well I called OU by 5. Was off by one...

KU gets back on track, wins a dog shit fight by 7....

We are behind most of the game. FINALLY hit our FT's to close this one out...

Couldnt get up for the OSU game... Didnt show up for the TCU historical beatdown... And was totally disinterested in Norman...


They better otherwise this that flushing sound you hear is this season swirling the drain...

Your projections have been off all year

@JayhawkTalk: Self: "We need our FANS on Monday. We've had a great year and a crappy week."

The best fans in the nation better bring the house down tomorrow. It's time to get this thing back on track. I'm tired of being affiliated with the rest of college basketball with our slumping.

Says the guy who said I said Doc Sadler was a great hire.

Your word is about as good as Nick Athan's.

Keep fighting the good fight, lil' fella.

This is true.

I am still holding, clinging onto a little bit of hope that tomorrow they'll rise up and show us something.

getting up doesn't mean we will shoot better


KSU and KU both tend to struggle on offense


Free throws could be huge

So whats that have to do with your basketball takes? Oh yeah nothing. Another beaker blowhard.

A good showing Monday could get this team back on track... They need either a blow out or a close game winning shot to boost the confidence again...

Right now they couldnt beat a High School JV girls team....

Especially if it required boxing out or perimeter defense...

K-State is the most effecient offense in the league and 2nd best eFG% in the league.

You need not to try and turn my cautiously optimistic post into something negative.

And I've never had an issue with your issues with the outside shooting, Self, team issues, etc.

By showing me something - I mean showing up on both sides of the ball and execute..and for EJ to get out of his funk.

Hope it doesnt come to free throws... The 08 Memphis team laughs at our free throw shooting...

Haha! I could find many posts on this site from KU fans ready to sculpt a Doc Sadler statue because his teams "played close" in AFH.

"Just wait until he gets his players in there".

Those were memorable times my friends.

I, sir, was never one of them.

Never called him a great hire, but don't think he was a terrible one either.

KU's AdjO: 111.2
KSU's AdjO: 109.6

http://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjOE

A lot closer than it was a few weeks ago obviously, but KU's is still better.

Doc was years ahead of the trend in understanding how to play and beat KU which most B12 coaches have adapted over the last two years (slow and with as few possessions as possible). He never got himself an upset because of lack of talent, but it certainly wasn't for a lack of trying. Perhaps if he was lucky enough to face this particular version of the team, he would have gotten himself his own TCU victory.

KSU offense is putrid every time they step on the court and see us wearing KANSAS jerseys

Let's do this.

What are you talking about? This is the best free throw shooting team since the 08 squad abd the 2nd best KU has had since 2001.

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Billay is about to go Billay.....

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Let's do this. Beat the shit out of these purple panzies.

Gonna be a long day at work...

I got in on K-State when the line opened at opened at 9....it's down to 8. I don't expect we will win, but I don't see a double digit win for KU either.
Of course the way my luck runs this will be the night they decide to wake back up.

I wasn't using his algorithm, K-State has the highest PPP.

How long until the grilling with Weber signs show up?

The line opened at ku -9?:hmmm:

KSU by 76.

Just got a last minute invite to go to the game tonight! Wheels up from Jabara Airport at 6pm. PBJ

Could Self hold a funeral for the team that played the last 3 games? It's worked before.

I don't think Doc was ahead of any curve. He played it like Wooly played it. And Wooly had an AFH victory in 2005. But as soon as Doc got his "moral loss/victory" by playing them close he was hailed as a genius."He's a better coach than Rick Barnes". (That was also a great talking point)

Weber has also gotten a ton of the same credit that Doc got in those early seasons at NUbb. "He's got them competing" and Weber has them "running that motion offense" lauding him as some great coach.

Right now Weber has this team about where Frank would have it imo. The real question will be in the next two seasons when all these seniors are gone. I think Weber will be a huge failure because he recruits like shit. Just like Doc. Doc was great for one season at UTEP with Billy G's team. He parlayed that into a deal with NUbb. And fell flat on his face. Never finished better than .500 in league.

Doc Sadler was a poor coach and worse recruiter.

Yep.
Opened at 9, dropped to 8, and is now back up to 8.5
Money line is currently +320 for KSU and -380 for KU

He knew how to get his shitty teams playing competitive games against vastly superior teams which is more you can say for most of the shitty teams in the B12 over the last decade.


I don't know about worse than Doc Sadler, but Rick Barnes has to be one of the most underachieving coaches in the game considering the major talent he's had to work with in Texas. And this year we're seeing what a Texas team coached by him is like without the same talent level as usual.

If playing competetive games is your goal, then I guess I could agree. But McNeck at ISU played competetive games at ISU when he was there. And Bdzexcvelic at CU played several "competetive game" against teams when he was there.

Is Rick Barnes underachieving? He's a reached a FF. Been to the tournament every year. Recruited like crazy - which is part of the job - at a true "Football" first university and been successful. His teams have flamed out in the 2nd round, but that can be attributed to the nature of the tourney.

And this year, Barnes got his lower talent team to nearly sneak away a victory against Kansas, no? But he doesn't get the same talking point respect as Doc?

Barnes won't be in the tournament this year.

That's true. But was he competetive?

Umm Doc Sadler never beat KU because of his conservative style and lacj of being and x and os guy.

GREAT name for this series ROFL

"CORNHUSKER"

Cool.

Not particularly. They are going to finish well under .500 on the season.

Neither was Doc. He finished .500 one time. But if you're competetive in AFH, you become an idolized figure.

Tom Asbury couldn't even do that!

I'm not defending Doc. He sucked out loud.

O/U on Cherry Pie Face Spradling scoring 8.

Eat a bag of dicks, KSTATE. #slumpbuster #dearGodplease

Hmmm.. He'll take 6 shots. Miss 5. Take a charge. But get 2 blocking fouls. Turn the ball over 3 times with zero assists. Grab 3 rebounds. Play like shit and the shirt tucking fan base will say he had a great line and we can't blame it on him.

His Dad will then criticize Frank Martin for killing his confidence after calling him a MF'ing pussy.

I'd hate hime a whole lot less if he shot 37% from 3. So therefore, I hate him.

#THAT escalated quickly

If KSU had been playing like the Beakers lately, you would be pretty pissy as well.

He usually plays alright against other teams, but plays relatively poorly against KU.

He is, what he is. A safe player that rarely gives you more than you would expect. I think his D is way overrated, and offensively, he was at his best when playing alongside Pullen. Not a huge fan, but we really don't have anyone who can replace him yet - I'm looking RIGHT AT YOU, Marcus Foster!

I almost hate watching Spradling play as much as Elijah Johnson has lately.

That's saying a lot too.

I miss the old Sprads that could take (and get) a charge like a champ.

I am a Wildcat fan tonight!

Queerbait.

Good one dickfore.

Queerbait compared to a gay chicken.

Random MU/MSU thread bomb.

Whitehead officiating tonight?

At least vs. Oklahoma KU looked to be turning the corner. I hope so.

Later Dudes.

I am off to enemy territory!

Cheers, and Go Cats!

Trap game.

KU has lost 3 in a row and still an 8 point favorite. Damn...

I am sure we will hear all the excuses from the usual suspects if ksu loses.

KU scored 13 points in the first half vs TCU... so who knows WTF is going to happen tonight? LOL.

Rather meaningless game. Win and Cats are in 1st. Lose and Cats are in 1st.

I hope the Wildcats feel the same way.

One more of those "good losses" to prepare for March?

No such thing as a good loss. But the scrimmage should be entertaining.

Keep focused.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3P0mYtyN53...day400_558.jpg

At least we are blessed to watch this exquisite matchup between Marquette and Georgetown beforehand.

Don't be so anxious. Try not to storm the court tonight.

Can I piss and shit in my underwear instead?

Self held a funeral for Tyshawn Taylor this afternoon, so you might want to check yourself.

He needs to have one for Elijah Johnson too.