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Dayze 04-13-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude (Post 7561645)
I had a laptop that was running really hot and fans at full blast. I installed process explorer on it to view my cpu usage and found my lexmark printer software was using 50% of my cpu when doing nothing. I assumed that that program had a memory leak and needed dumping. After the uninstall it now runs cool and quiet. I still blow the air through the exhaust port on my cpu occasionally too with the compressor. Alot of dust can collect on the cooling fan in laptops too.

cool; I'm running an HP wireless printer that never gets used.

if one were to turn off a printer from a process standpoint, would they be able to print if need be? so like, turn it off since 99% of time we never use it, but if we did need to - still be able to print?

DaFace 04-13-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude (Post 7561451)
So Avast has lost the ability to access the net now?

Yup. But that's it. Everything else is peachy. I can manually update it by downloading the file from Avast, and that works fine. Scans come up clean. I can't use the web shield (since that works as a proxy that sends all HTTP communications through Avast), but that and updating are really the only issues.

Fish 04-13-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7555512)
On a random Avast side note, any of you ever had it lose its ability to access the internet? I got a little minor gremlin a week or so ago. I removed it immediately, and it really didn't do anything, but somewhere in the removal process something got screwy. Avast won't update, and if I turn the web shield on, all my browsers are blocked.

I've done a full uninstall/reinstall, all of the typical scanners come up clean, everything seems fine, etc. Hosts file is fine. Hijack this doesn't seem to have anything out of the ordinary. Everything works fine except that one program. I almost don't even care (it's just my media center pc), but it's got me stumped.

Hmmm.. That's weird.. never heard of such a thing.

You might try Avast's uninstaller app... http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

Usually when they release their own uninstall app, it's because the Windows one isn't sufficient in some cases. I'd uninstall through windows, then run the Avast uninstall and let it clean up anything the Windows uninstaller might have missed. Then reinstall newest version. You might try and uninstall/reinstall with another admin account too. Determine if it might be a user setting specific to your account.

DaFace 04-13-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7562371)
Hmmm.. That's weird.. never heard of such a thing.

You might try Avast's uninstaller app... http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

Usually when they release their own uninstall app, it's because the Windows one isn't sufficient in some cases. I'd uninstall through windows, then run the Avast uninstall and let it clean up anything the Windows uninstaller might have missed. Then reinstall newest version. You might try and uninstall/reinstall with another admin account too. Determine if it might be a user setting specific to your account.

Yeah, I tried that. Haven't done it from safe mode, which I've seen suggested on other forums. I'll try it from a different account as well, just to say I did.

It's kind of a weird issue. It doesn't really matter that much, but it's certainly perplexing.

chasedude 04-14-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 7561827)
cool; I'm running an HP wireless printer that never gets used.

if one were to turn off a printer from a process standpoint, would they be able to print if need be? so like, turn it off since 99% of time we never use it, but if we did need to - still be able to print?

Print spooling is about the only process windows uses to handle print jobs and it only starts when you send a job through the queue. Most of the problems created today are the additional software loaded with most home deskjets.

The services I had problems with from my lexmark software wouldn't let me close the process. My only solution was to uninstall it.

I miss the old days when all you had to do was install a driver and done. Too much unnecessary software bogging down the system only creates problems in the end.

Fish 05-11-2011 09:25 AM

Google Image Poisoning and FakeAV attacks

FYI on Google Image Poisoning.... which is the general cause for the FakeAV popups that so many people have issues with.

These FakeAV programs are rather tricky, in that they're not easily classified, and they never work the same. Therefore, your various AV/Spyware/Malware scanners might not think that it's malicious behavior at the time of infection.

The FakeAV attacks seem to come in 3 flavors of increasing complexity:

1) "The Nag". Terminate the process and delete the file. Doesn't care that you run other programs.

2) "The Pain in the Ass". Doesn't let you run any exe because it latches into the .exe file registry keys. We have an inf that reverts the registry change, then we terminate and delete the exe.

3) "The Real Pain in the Ass". Does the same as number two, but has the additional side effect of fudging permissions all over the system. It screws them up so bad that you can't run any of your applications anymore. When computers get these, we usually just reimage them. But they can be salvaged if it's worth a bit of work to you.

If you've experienced these, here's why you got it, and here's how to prevent it in the future.

Full article: http://isc.sans.edu/diary/More+on+Go...oisoning/10822

Another very In-depth article with additional info: http://blog.unmaskparasites.com/2011...earch-results/

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For last couple of weeks we received quite a bit of reports of images on Google leading to (usually) FakeAV web sites.
Google is doing a relatively good job removing (or at least marking) links leading to malware in normal searches, however, Google’s image search seem to be plagued with malicious links. So how do they do this?

The attackers compromise a number of legitimate web sites. I have noticed that they usually attack Wordpress installations, but any widely spread software that has known vulnerabilities can be exploited.
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Now, when a user searches for something through the Google image search function, thumbnails of pictures are displayed. Depending on the automatically generated content in step 3), number of links to the web page and other parameters known to Google, the attacker’s page will be shown at a certain position in the results web page. The exploit happens when a user clicks on the thumbnail.
Google now shows a special page that shows the thumbnail in the center of the page, links to the original image (no matter where it is located) on the right and the original web site (the one that contained the image) in the background. This is where the “vulnerability” is.

The user’s browser will automatically send a request to the bad page which runs the attacker’s script (the one set in step 1). This script checks that the request’s referrer field and if it contains Google (meaning this was a click on the results page in Google), the script displays a small JavaScript script.

This causes the browser to be redirected to another site that is serving FakeAV.

As we can see, the whole story behind this is relatively simple (for the attackers). There is a number of things to do here to protect against this attack, depending if we are looking at servers or clients. For a standard user, the best protection (besides not clicking on images) is to install a Mozilla Firefox addon such as NoScript. Google could step up a bit as well, especially since this has been going on for more than a month already and there are numerous complaints on Google’s forums about this. Since there are so many poisoned images they could maybe modify the screen that displays the results so it does not include the iframe – that will help in first step only, since if the user lands on the malicious web page there is nothing Google can do really.
Here's the link to NoScript. The thing about NoScript though, is that it can be overkill in many situations, and requires you to fine tune it or add exceptions to make some of your normal websites function properly. This normally just consists of navigating to your trusted websites and telling NoScript to allow an exception for that site. But for some people, I imagine it could be confusing. If you have any questions about it, post em in here....

Stanley Nickels 05-20-2011 09:07 AM

We're having a whale of a time dealing with less-computer-literate folks installing Mac Defender or Mac Protector. Making things worse, those trojans pop-up gay porn, of all things, then present the user with a virus warning. The worst part about this is trying to explain to someone how the program got there; their admin password HAD to be entered, but they draw no correlation between the installing of an anti-virus and the subsequent porn/virus "infection". Ugh.

Fish 05-20-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 7652176)
We're having a whale of a time dealing with less-computer-literate folks installing Mac Defender or Mac Protector. Making things worse, those trojans pop-up gay porn, of all things, then present the user with a virus warning. The worst part about this is trying to explain to someone how the program got there; their admin password HAD to be entered, but they draw no correlation between the installing of an anti-virus and the subsequent porn/virus "infection". Ugh.

LMAO Seriously?

First off.... never ever ever give complete idiot users admin rights. That's just asking for headaches.

You could install ClamXAV on the machines. It's free, and effective. It's very easy to use, just tell it what to actively monitor. You can configure it to monitor the User folders, the normal startup and launch folders, etc. if you don't want it to scan the entire drive.

Stanley Nickels 05-20-2011 11:48 AM

Right now we're simply removing the program, and reassuring them their computer is in no danger (while politely implying that they were the idiots that did this). Removal is easy: Activity Monitor- Force Quit; Remove from Applications; Remove from Login Items; Safari-Preferences-uncheck Open "Safe" Files.

rocknrolla 05-28-2011 10:22 PM

Thank you, This thread freaking saved me soooo much time.

Mr. Plow 06-02-2011 09:18 AM

One of my employees downloaded the "Clean This" virus. What I thought was going to be difficult to get rid of turned out to be fairly easy.

Got into Safe Mode. Ran MBAM. Found 6 Trojans. Deleted them. Rebooted and back in business.

Just now rerunning MBAM in Normal Mode. Then I'm going to run MS Security Essentials.

KurtCobain 07-21-2011 05:43 PM

My computer wont turn on. it goes to the hp invent page then the moniter says innput out of range and the computer doesnt seem to be doing anything but the fans are runing. help please?
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Fish 07-21-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7762475)
My computer wont turn on. it goes to the hp invent page then the moniter says innput out of range and the computer doesnt seem to be doing anything but the fans are runing. help please?
Posted via Mobile Device

Usually that means the video card is set to a resolution that the monitor can't support.

Reboot it. Right after the hp invent page, keep tapping F8. This will bring up a DOS menu. Select Safe Mode.

If it boots, go to Device Manager. Uninstall your video card, and reboot the computer. Then reinstall good video card drivers.

KurtCobain 07-21-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7762512)
Usually that means the video card is set to a resolution that the monitor can't support.

Reboot it. Right after the hp invent page, keep tapping F8. This will bring up a DOS menu. Select Safe Mode.

If it boots, go to Device Manager. Uninstall your video card, and reboot the computer. Then reinstall good vIideo card drivers.

f8 is doin no good. it only lets me get into setup (f10) from the invent page nothing else works. thanks tons btw
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Fish 07-21-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7762544)
f8 is doin no good. it only lets me get into setup (f10) from the invent page nothing else works. thanks tons btw
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Did you keep tapping the F8 key? You might have to start clicking it before the Invent screen goes away. Sometimes the timing is hard if you've never done it before.


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