4k TV
 

In the next year I am looking to buy a 4k TV. One that plays Xbox 1x on 4k. I don't know where exactly to start researching but I would sit post in the mean time. What I know so far is I am fine with my TV now bit I am a gamer and want the best but not stupid expensive. I know there are obstacles to getting Xbox one x to run 4k. Any advice or sarcasm is greatly appreciated. Thanks and go **** yourself.

TCL 55" Roku 4k TV at Costco for $399.99.

Incredible picture.

I'm in the same boat Penz.

How much do you want to spend?

You can get an OLED 55" for around 1500 with various deals going on now. If you're getting it for gaming make sure the input lag on the tv is low

OK picture but not for gaming

We haven't had any issues with WiiU and X Box One

If your internet provider utilizes bandwidth caps and charges for data, you will not want to stream anything in 4k or your internet bill will be expensive as ****.

Just something to keep in mind for all of you shoppers.
Many people have 4k TV's and can't even utilize them.

We got a Samsung superHD 4K 60" from Best Buy a couple years ago, with Google Fiber TV service in JoCo.
The local news people never looked so haggardly.

I have several Changhong 4K tvs and they are great, no stupid bells and buzzers but great pictures and sound. Very closely rated to mentioned TCL. The early ones were 60Hz enhanced sets and my newest is enhanced 120Hz. Changhong is all but gone now.

Stay away from 60Hz and 120HZ refresh rates and serious gamers swear to stay away from effective or enhanced 240Hz sets but it depends on your budget and how hard core you may be. My family room set is 240HZ enhanced and I very seldom see any lag. It's a big step up to true 240HZ sets.
Effective Refresh Rate is not a bad thing but you have to look at refresh rates and that's not easy.

My go to site is http://www.rtings.com and avs forums.com

If your in the 2K range for a 55" the Costco deal below is worth looking into, if you want to spend 1K look at the top 2.I tossed in another one in the $1500 range. All three of the top units have 129 enhanced ratings with great refresh ratings

Take a look at these for starters:
Under 1K

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...n55mu8000fxza/
under1K

https://www.vizio.com/p55e1.html

Under $1.5 K going on sale
https://www.costco.com/Vizio-65"-Cla...100370312.html

under2K on black friday sale pricing Member only
https://www.costco.com/LG-55"-Class-...100343123.html

From what I saw it is NOT a straight 120Hz machine. it is a 60Hz bumped to emulate a 120Hz unit

The TCL is a top of the line picture and basic feature TV. It is well above the same spec units from Samsung, LG, and Vizio.

Faster still are true 240HZ and 120HZ enhanced OLED screens which are stupid fast.

I recommend getting a set that is 120Hz enhanced thet will give you rating similaa to these:

80% Response Time
3.0- 4.0ms
100% Response Time
10-11 ms

The TCL specs are decent at:
80% Response Time
6.3 ms
100% Response Time
14.4 ms


Dane, Depending on gaming activity 120Hz rating is nominal but if it works for you... FYI. Make sure you inspect the edge lighting... See white? lots of complaints on this on TCL units.

Probably won't be much help, but I got a 4K TV very soon after they came out. I have a 65'', LG 4K Smart TV, bought a Microcenter for $999. Fantastic picture. Just not alot of stuff out in 4K but I like to watch those guys in Wingsuits fly through the mountains. Amazon Prime has some 4k content now.

Would really like to find a 75''+ for less than $1500 someday.

There's at least one dumbass here that would have you believe the human eye cant distinguish the difference between 4k and 1080p. Dont listen to said dumbass.

4k streaming isn't great. The bitrate is too low.

But if you play a game or watch a 4k movie on an actual Blu Ray disc it's absolutely stunning.

There used to be tons of dumbasses that would try to convince us we couldn't tell the difference between 720i and 1080p. You can definitely tell the difference between 4K and 1080p especially if it is on a large TV. It depends what the content is but you certainly can.

If you have a 32'' TV, well then it probably won't make that much difference. If you have a 55''+ it definitely will.

Agreed. Just wanted to point out that just because DirecTV and DISH are claiming to broadcast in 4K, doesn't mean you are going to be watching everything in 4K when you have an ISP bandwidth cap. If you spend the money on a 4k TV, also expect to spend the money on buying 4K blurays.

My first 4K unit was 42" and side by side the difference was amazing. My largest is a 65" and it's picture is fantastic. Gaming: Not so good

Newegg was the last US retailer as the name said "YUGO" and should have been named anything else. They are China's largest TV exporter since the 1950's but no longer available in the US.

I want to know. Person that runs Xbox 1 x in 4k is what really want.

I read it 3 times do you mean:

What the **** do you mean?

I have the Xbox one X and the LG 65” C7 Oled and Assassin Creed Origins in HDR 4K is unbelievable. IMO the bar has been raised and I’m never going back. This is said as a ps4 pro owner who also has two other 65” TVs and a 75” Sony XBR940D. The Oled 4K hdr with the Xbox one X also shined watching Planet earth 2. Almost unreal how good true hdr 4K looks.

Zero obstacles.

Think a 55" inch OLED will suffice?

I really don't want to spend more than 2k on a television.

Spending more than $1k on a TV in 2017 is a gigantic waste of money.

It’ll be worth $400 at this time next year.

I'm looking to replace my basement tv and the largest I can go is a 43" screen. Drives me nuts seeing all these 49" screens on incredible sales while the 43s just stay the same price.

Do you do Costco?

If so go to that link and see what the price is.

It will be going of sale on the 17th.

That LG was rated very highly

The LG C7 is the same set as the LG B7 and here is a link to a review.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b7-b7a-oled

Thanks.

I usually hit up Slickdeals. A lot of sales going on now:

https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php...searchin=first

I had the same problem when I bought a tv for my kitchen last year. Also much more limited options in that size and largely entry level stuff.

If you watch the sales a 65” OLED may get near 2k. I picked up a 55” LG C7 back on a 4th of July sale at Frys and the picture is incredible. Particularly hdr stuff in Dolby Vision.

Another great place to watch along with slickdeal you mentioned above
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/#/forums/322

Depends on how critical you are on the picture quality on whether is worth it or you even care. The higher end sets can do a lot more with black levels, brightness and contrast for HDR as well as stuff like better processing and upscaling 1080p. OLEDs and LED with full array local dimming backlighting cost more to make but they have still dropped thousands in price in the last few years.

I got this 75inch one back on Labor Day sales. Fantastic picture. Apps work great. Netflix has the 4K option now. Great graphics to keep up with what I'm playing through the USB. $2899.

https://www.bestbuy.com//site/sony-7...?skuId=5748201

I spent $3k on a TV back in 2003 and I’ll never pay more than $1k, ever again.

Technology changes so quickly that the $2k TV today will be less than $1k in six months meaning the $900 TV will be $400.

It’s a moving target and in my experience, all of these TV’s look amazing once they’re in the home.

l was finishing up a job that had paid the 2nd highest money ever for me. I wanted a great tv that filled up the wall. I usually stay at the $1K mark.

I wouldn't say all of them look amazing. My father "upgraded" to a 4k LG tv and I feel his 1080p plasma is loads better. I've tried to tweak the settings and nothing makes the picture on the 4k tv look anywhere close to his plasma. I haven't said any of this to him because I don't want him to feel like he got a bad deal as he is very happy with the purchase.

check the auto brightness mode setting. We took ours off automatic. Also found sports is the best viewing for all stuff. Also leave football mode on all the time. Very satisfied now.

Screen size is the #1 factor in buyer satisfaction. A 55 would suffice, a 65 Oled will blow your mind. (Unless you put it next to Danes $400 tv of course)

I’ve always been a plasma guy as well, but with their demise I had to turn elsewhere and the LG Oled is the first tv to truly surpass my expectations.

He may also have an input issue in the HDR. If he’s watching 4K content then it should show an HDR symbol in the upper right hand of the screen. If it’s standard content then put the tv in HDR mode, and it will upscale and improve quality. Are you certain he had the Oled B7/C7?

Ihave 2 -42" sets now. I'll consider myself lucky.

Try this Samsung UN40MU7000

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=5789803

The key is 1080p The new set tries to upgrade signal but don't do much. Get a 4K bluray and look at the 4K set. OH and LG made some crap too depending on model. Look it up here. http://www.rtings.com

Plasmas have great pics like the old HD CRT sets but may I suggest you get his new set calibrated? did he give you the plasma? perk

Makes for a great Christmas gift.

Best thing I did for all my sets.

The tech told me that the local store includes it with sale...says they can'y keep up with demand.

he didn't say it was Oled

Ouch:

Mr Roper is going to be pissed!

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Thats a nice set it has a quick refresh rate from 120Hz native processor and then enhances it to 240Hz. I bet it looks good on games too.

Yep, you are correct. He was replying to Mr. Roper.

All of the TV’s I see at Costco every 10 days or so look awesome to me.

They do. I went to Costco, looked at the 70" 4K units and then bought one from Sam's Club on special Saturday.

Could someone with a Costco membership look at the price on this?

under2K on black friday sale pricing Member only
https://www.costco.com/LG-55"-Class-...100343123.html

$1,649.99 and includes an additional 3 year square trade warranty that’s normally $90.

My brother picked up four 43" Roku TV's earlier this year at Best Buy. I think the were around $299.00.

Here's one on Amazon that's 4K:

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-43S403-UH.../dp/B0754LMN3K

Here's a Sharp 43" at Best Buy. 4k, $329:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-4...?skuId=5746801

LMAO

This is exactly like the "Converter Wars" that exist on various Pro Audio Websites.

Guys will claim that their $2,000 Analog-to-Digital-Analog converters "blow away" a $250 dollar ADA box when in reality, the differences are generally barely perceptible to even the best trained ears.

To top that off, the $250 dollar ADA boxes sold today are infinitely better than the converters used to create some of the greatest music of all time from 1980 to around 2003.

The bottom line for me is that if I pick up a 55" 4K TV, regardless of the price, I'm going to be very happy once it's mounted on the wall while watching programs of my choice.

I agree, but I️ really want an 80” 4K tv. I’ve had great experiences with vizio’s but they are around $2600 right now.

What about a projector instead?

80"? Wow

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8e9b...itemid=5494249

As of right now it looks like Sony 900e models are the best bang for your buck.

It’s just not Dane. I am not in the tv business, just like to watch sports and play video games. I have 4 4K TVs 65 inches or bigger, and the Oled smokes them all. I spent a fortune on the Sony XBR940E, and it can’t hold a candle to the LG Oled. It does however blow the cheap 4K tv’s I bought to round out my media room.

I can’t argue what your level of happiness would be given the difference in quality, but I can assure you there is a sizable difference in picture quality between the different 4K TVs to an average person like myself. I’d guess you haven’t spent a lot of time with true 4K HDR, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, it is. :D

I've spent plenty of time with "True 4K" TV's and there's just not a big difference between a $3k Sony and a $400 dollar TCL.

Thank you,

Could you try to see what it is on the 17th?

Were they HDR 4K? Cmon man, for an intelligent guy you can be exhausting. You hijack a thread where the OP asks for recommendations from people on 4K TVs, and later clarifies he’s looking for info from Xbox One X/4K owners. I fit the bill, try to add value, and you storm in with a hot take that anyone who spends more than $400 on a tv is wasting money. That may be your opinion, but it doesn’t make it fact.

First off, this is a 'Penz thread. Who knows if he's even serious.

Secondly, people perceive things differently. My wife can't tell the difference between an 8 year old LED TV and the TCL 4K that I purchased in August to replace it.

Some broadcasts look better in 4K or HDR 4K and some things just don't. The TCL I purchased is used in our kid's playroom and 99% of the content they watch is animated. My eyes tell me that it's cleaner and clearer, as are movies streamed from VUDU but some people don't even agree with that.

The X Box One and Wii U don't look markedly different, either. Maybe a little "shinier". The bottom line is that once the TV of choice is in your home, it doesn't matter whether or not there's a new TV available that's 2% better than your current picture.

It's a rabbit hole.

Go read the review on your set.

This is for the C807 and it has edge backlighting which is superior to the C803 which is direct backlight. The C803 comes packaged with a simpler remote which lacks voice control and a 3.5mm jack for private listening.

Type : LED
Resolution : 4k
Refresh Rate : 60 Hz
The TCL C807 4k Roku TV is a decent LCD/LED TV with better than average build quality and design. It features a wider color gamut for vibrant HDR content and very low input lag for responsive gaming. Unfortunately, its blacks are not very uniform, and its picture quality deteriorates even at a slight angle.


TEST RESULTS
Design 9.0
Picture Quality* 7.1
Motion 6.3
Inputs 9.3
Sound Quality 6.2
Smart Features 7.9

Pros
Sturdy, nicely finished design
Roku smart platform is both simple and quick

Cons
Could be brighter for HDR *
Poor black uniformity**
Picture quality degrades at an angle***

*The TCL C Series C807 LED TV has an average picture quality. The high contrast ratio makes for a good dark room performance, with a high level of detail in dark scene. Unfortunately, the bad black uniformity and the lack of local dimming hurt the dark room performance in the end. When set in a bright room, the C807 performs better, since it can get fairly bright and deal decently with reflection and glare. The gray uniformity is average though and dirty screen effect is visible when watching sports like football. ***The very narrow viewing angle won't make it the best TV to watch sports event with all your friend since only people sitting right in front of the TV will have the best picture quality. Finally, HDR performance is ordinary since the TV can't really get brighter than in SDR and the lack of local dimming doest help even if it has a wide color gamut.

**The black uniformity is disappointing. Most of the uniformity issues are due to the visible clouding near each corner of the screen.


I't a $400 TV quite trying to sell us on the fact that a Denali is the same a Rangerover. It's not.

For "cheap" people it's an adequate set. But the TV's I mentioned earlier while more expensive are better sets.

First off, what the **** is wrong with you?

Secondly, mine is 120hz.

Finally, I don't give a shit what you think. You guys are acting like a $400 dollar 4K TV is the equivalent of a Standard Definition TV when compared to models double the price.

They're not. Not even close.

I've been eyeballing a tcl for around $350. Keep waiting for a sale on it. I just need a tv that will compliment gaming video on my ps4 pro. Doesn't need to be perfect but at least comparable to what a plasma does.

Maybe Black Friday?

Obviously you failed the...test. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vkr4291TR08/maxresdefault.jpg

Unless you're the guy sitting off to the side... your TV review.

Not even close even at twice the price. and before 4K I was a projector guy.

You know your shit, could you explain?

Tvs are impossible on black Friday. They are always picked over and I'm not willing to wait in line for hours to get one. I'll just wait for the non amazon sales where I have a fighting chance to land one.

It’s not right for the space.

What model????

Buy a native 120Hz enhanced like the LG "tru motion" if you can, the TCL is not going to make you happy gaming.*

The Costco C803 is very slow according to reviews, Their better models are adequate if you do not mind streaking and on a 55" TV your going to notice.

*Shop for TCL P607 if you want to save money but it is an 60Hz enhanced to 120Hz but is much faster than your $350 TCL.

I'm not an avs guy, but I have a Samsung plasma downstairs and always preferred the picture to LCD.

I have an LCD 1080p TV and it never really looked right, kind of fake.

Then I finally found a reasonable priced OLED tv, and it really looks great resolution wise, and gives me that plasma color depth. I love my LG oled tv, got it off amazon, last year's models to same some $$.

https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronic.../dp/B01CDF9S1G

They are great in dark theater rooms or man caves with no windows. My whole wall is windows and a projector meant blinds closed (which meant no bikini watching) but I think the new Oled sets blow projectors away.

You are dead on! No LED 1K TV has the blacks that a Plasma has, it just has that nice rich warm picture which is very detailed in the later models. A 1K TV next to a plasma is , well like putting Dane's $400 4K LCP next to the LG.

If I could find a used 1080P plasma that was lightly used I would buy it in a heartbeat for my bedroom. (Some movies you don't want in 4K:D:D:D) I held on to my dinosaur 32" CRT's as long as they would live for the bedrooms.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-.../dp/B00BC4SNMK

Football is the best but the HD concerts are pretty good also. Got a great sound system to play them on. the Chiefs group down here is coming over on Sunday to watch the game.

I just got a TCL for my bedroom....its great. I use plex media server on my home network and roku has a plex app that works awesome. Far better than my Panasonic's DNLA software

Not even an issue

It appears that you have zero experience with this TV but by all means, keep linking articles that are completely irrelevant

What model dis you get?

I am sorry You did buy the C803 / C807 model right?

I’m looking to put a tv on our main level. Half of our house has a second story upstairs. There is a balcony over our family room that currently doesn’t have a tv. We go downstairs for family tv time.

There are 8” tall windows in the room where I️ need the tv with a 3 foot drywall gap above them and another 5” worth of windows. We have window coverings in the lower, but not upper windows. Plus there isn’t a good spot to hang a projector.

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What stations broadcast in 4K? Hell, most broadcast in 720, maybe 1080 with their secondary channels broadcasting in 480. From what I remember the "upgrade" was put on hold over a year ago due to lack of interest and money from broadcasters.

TCL model 43s405 is the one I've been watching. While it doesn't get great overall marks for normal tv viewing its getting really good reviews when using it for gaming.

With Oled TV I am dome with projectors. Never again For a fake 4K Projector with good black and colors you need $2500 for the unit, then a screen, it's housing, and you have to get power to it and cables. (I still like cables) Then every year $280 for a bulb. Nope, nada, not going to do it.

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