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Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 12:32 PM

2013 PFF Free Agency Tracker
 
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gency-tracker/

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Every year we launch into free agency with the aim to deliver the most comprehensive service out there. We’ve got rankings, breakdowns, team needs and some special features all coming up, but starts here…

With the Pro Football Focus Free Agency Tracker.

We’ve got a run down on all the available free agents with a breakdown of their 2012 snaps and player grades.

This year we’re making it even easier for you to find what you’re looking for by breaking the pages down a number of ways.
Short list of favorites:

RB Mike Goodson
WR Greg Jennings
G Andy Levitre
S Jairus Byrd
CB Sam Shields
DE/DT Steve McLendon (if we go 1-gap this guy would be a nice pickup)

There are a LOT of good safeties hitting FA this year so we should be able to sign someone to complement Berry.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gent-safeties/

Former Eagles Reid might sign:

Sheldon Brown + this list

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...elphia-eagles/

The Franchise 01-07-2013 12:35 PM

I'll take....

Jared Cook, TE
Sean Smith, CB
Jairus Byrd, S

Strongside 01-07-2013 12:41 PM

Greg Jennings, please.

RealSNR 01-07-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9292110)
Greg Jennings, please.

Does he come with his own surgeon? We'll probably need one.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 12:42 PM

Somebody said Byrd was already locked up.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 12:43 PM

I think we need to be looking at guards.

Jeff Allen was bad and shouldn't be gifted the starter spot.

PunkinDrublic 01-07-2013 12:44 PM

That's the good news about this offseason. Once the front office is in place, there is a lot of money to fix the numerous holes on this team through FA. Plus we won't have nearly the amount of swings and misses that Pioli did.

bowener 01-07-2013 12:45 PM

If we couldn't get Byrd, I wouldn't mind seeing Willy Mo come back to Missouri.

bowener 01-07-2013 12:47 PM

DRC is an UFA. I didn't pay any attention to him this year, but it is realistic to think Reid may go after him to fill a starting CB spot?

Priest31kc 01-07-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9292133)
If we couldn't get Byrd, I wouldn't mind seeing Willy Mo come back to Missouri.

Just about to say this.

Berry & Willy Mo? Yes please.

Have a feeling he'll resign w/Atlanta tho...

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9292140)
DRC is an UFA. I didn't pay any attention to him this year, but it is realistic to think Reid may go after him to fill a starting CB spot?

He's not a starter. Dude was toasted a lot.

The Franchise 01-07-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9292152)
He's not a starter. Dude was toasted a lot.

It's not a question of talent. It's a question of drive.

bowener 01-07-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9292153)
It's not a question of talent. It's a question of drive.

I was wondering if the whole team just gave up this year or what. Is he better than Jalil Brown/Javier Arenas?

The Franchise 01-07-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9292169)
I was wondering if the whole team just gave up this year or what. Is he better than Jalil Brown/Javier Arenas?

**** yes.

Rausch 01-07-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9292124)
I think we need to be looking at guards.

Jeff Allen was bad and shouldn't be gifted the starter spot.

5th round pick...

htismaqe 01-07-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9292124)
I think we need to be looking at guards.

Jeff Allen was bad and shouldn't be gifted the starter spot.

Gifted the spot? No.

But to expect him to excel in his first season, with shit coaching, after playing tackle in college, is pretty silly.

He'll be fine, just like Branden Albert was fine.

ThaVirus 01-07-2013 01:22 PM

Ill take Jairus Byrd or Dashon Goldson, thanks.

Titty Meat 01-07-2013 01:31 PM

Byrd or Moore
Delanie Walker
Osi

DTLB58 01-07-2013 02:23 PM

Pass rushers and then when you think you got one, grab another! Yes, even with Hali and Houston, we need more.

But that's just me.

ThaVirus 01-07-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9292670)
Pass rushers and then when you think you got one, grab another! Yes, even with Hali and Houston, we need more.

But that's just me.

We desperately need someone that can get consistent pressure from the D line.. we haven't had that since Gilberry and he was only situational.

siberian khatru 01-07-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9292204)
5th round pick...

2nd round

Easy 6 01-07-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9292458)
Byrd or Moore
Delanie Walker
Osi

If he has anything left, Osi would be a nice piece for the transition to 4-3.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2013 04:19 PM

<table id="wp-table-reloaded-id-716-no-1" class="wp-table-reloaded wp-table-reloaded-id-716"><tbody><tr class="row-3"><td class="column-1">Ryan Lilja</td><td class="column-2">G*</td><td class="column-3">9</td><td class="column-4">KC</td><td class="column-5">UFA</td><td class="column-6">+14.5</td><td class="column-7">1023</td></tr></tbody></table>
rating high but everyone around here insisted he sucks

so is it PFF or Lilja that sucks?

mcaj22 01-07-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9292322)
Gifted the spot? No.

But to expect him to excel in his first season, with shit coaching, after playing tackle in college, is pretty silly.

He'll be fine, just like Branden Albert was fine.

the whole offensive line was fine, besides him

that alone should have elevated his talent and made him a better player when the guys to his left and right are playing at such a high level. And it didnt. He was ****ing horrible.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9293088)
the whole offensive line was fine, besides him

that alone should have elevated his talent and made him a better player when the guys to his left and right are playing at such a high level. And it didnt. He was ****ing horrible.

No, he wasn't.

O.city 01-07-2013 04:32 PM

Juan Castillo should improve the oline, greatly.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9293105)
No, he wasn't.

The guy got his ass kicked in the majority of the games. He ended the season on a down note after showing improvement.

There is no way he can start next year uncontested.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9293124)
The guy got his ass kicked in the majority of the games. He ended the season on a down note after showing improvement.

There is no way he can start next year uncontested.

I already said he needs competition, did I not?

This idea that he was "horrible" is a myth.

He definitely needs to improve and I wouldn't have a problem with them bringing in a guard to compete.

Upgrading that position is about 7th on my priority list.

EDIT: And it's not a shock he ended the season on a down note after showing improvement mid-season. He got better when Lilja moved to center and go worse when Stephenson replaced Albert. It's not rocket surgery.

O.city 01-07-2013 04:41 PM

So would you guys not target Maclin, he's WAY down the list, actually worse than Dex.

mcaj22 01-07-2013 04:41 PM

how is it a myth when he was dog shit

and Lilja retired and we can possibly lose Albert

so at least, there will be 1 to 2 openings on the offensive line for competition. You almost have to bring a veteran in at that point.

If there's one thing Andy Reid loves it's offensive lineman, he will build the line his way and he will waste tons of draft picks on doing it. So we will find out sooner or later if Jeff Allen truly sucks, because Andy Reid certainly wont give him a free pass to develop, the Scott 'Team-killer' Pioli way

EagleRob 01-07-2013 04:50 PM

If Reid goes FA at this early stage he will be looking bookend OT. Somebody at the top of their game about 26-27 years old and try to lock him up for five years.

O.city 01-07-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9293168)
If Reid goes FA at this early stage he will be looking bookend OT. Somebody at the top of their game about 26-27 years old and try to lock him up for five years.

Heh, we already have that guy in KC, just needs to be locked up.

EagleRob 01-07-2013 04:53 PM

But not King Dunlap.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9293152)
So would you guys not target Maclin, he's WAY down the list, actually worse than Dex.

I don't want to hear any bullshit about a guy who has 26 career TDs.

What does Dex have, 3?

EagleRob 01-07-2013 04:54 PM

I believe his first move in Philly was Jon Runyan in FA from TEN before the McNabb pick but it's been long enough ago that I don't remember the timing.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9293153)
how is it a myth when he was dog shit

and Lilja retired and we can possibly lose Albert

so at least, there will be 1 to 2 openings on the offensive line for competition. You almost have to bring a veteran in at that point.

If there's one thing Andy Reid loves it's offensive lineman, he will build the line his way and he will waste tons of draft picks on doing it. So we will find out sooner or later if Jeff Allen truly sucks, because Andy Reid certainly wont give him a free pass to develop, the Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli way

He wasn't dog shit. That's the myth.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9293168)
If Reid goes FA at this early stage he will be looking bookend OT. Somebody at the top of their game about 26-27 years old and try to lock him up for five years.

We have Branden Albert and Eric Winston.

Give Albert a contract extension and he has his bookends. Problem solved.

Easy 6 01-07-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9293152)
So would you guys not target Maclin, he's WAY down the list, actually worse than Dex.

Not to start in on some diatribe, but HOW can you say that?

Dex couldnt shine Maclins shoes.

O.city 01-07-2013 05:52 PM

Just saying if we are going by PFF only, we don't want Maclin.


And no, Dex sucks, don't want him either.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2013 05:57 PM

Donaldson did a good job to until he seem to wear out after starting for awhile.

Hopefully it was just fatigue because he wasn't used to playing so much.

He's a viable swing tackle and extra tackle for power formations

Mr. Laz 01-07-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9293326)
Just saying if we are going by PFF only, we don't want Maclin.


And no, Dex sucks, don't want him either.

so all our Wr's will improve with a real QB except for DMC?


people just pull shit out of their ass, i swear.


Dex is a viable slot WR who should complete for time but i wouldn't be surprise to see him pretty productive in a real offense. He should be good for 60/500 a year.

O.city 01-07-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9293342)
so all our Wr's will improve with a real QB except for DMC?


people just pull shit out of their ass, i swear.


Dex is a viable slot WR who should complete for time but i wouldn't be surprise to see him pretty productive in a real offense. He should be good for 60/500 a year.

Where did I say our wr's will improve with a real QB in that statement?

And what has he done to make you think he'll be productive?

alpha_omega 01-07-2013 06:11 PM

Holy shiite, that is the worst list of QBs I have ever seen. Hope we aren't getting one from there.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9293345)
Where did I say our wr's will improve with a real QB in that statement?

And what has he done to make you think he'll be productive?

He just did 52/452 in our shit offense

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9293342)

Dex is a viable slot WR who should complete for time

No, he's not.

He doesn't have size, speed or hands.

He hasn't caught one single pass down the field in his NFL career.

He needs to GTFO and be replaced by someone who can actually make plays.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9293367)
He just did 52/452 in our shit offense

Is that supposed to be good?

You saw the games...the vast majority of his receptions go NOWHERE.

O.city 01-07-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9293378)
Is that supposed to be good?

You saw the games...the vast majority of his receptions go NOWHERE.

But with a good QB, he'll be great in the slot.

Halfcan 01-07-2013 06:32 PM

Seems like a poor FA class this year especially for QB.

Easy 6 01-07-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9293342)
Dex is a viable slot WR...

Dude, what? he's dropped almost as many as he's caught, he's a TERRIBLE receiver, he has no business going down the field at all, he gets swallowed up by bigger guys to the point that his QB cant even SEE him to throw to him.

Now if you want to make the case that in an Andy Reid system he can have some success out of the backfield on screens/quick hitches/etc in open space, then i could get behind that... but when he goes downfield, how many times have we seen him either drop it or have it knocked loose by bigger db's?

I've said all along that this is the kind of coach he needs to play for, so i do envision some level of success for him here, but it sure as hell isnt in the slot or at any other receiver position.

O.city 01-07-2013 06:39 PM

I do think a new QB will open the field up for whoever plays the slot, defenses can't play a 12-15 yard box around the offense.

mcaj22 01-07-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9293229)
He wasn't dog shit. That's the myth.

how is that a myth. the analytics don't lie.

CoMoChief 01-07-2013 07:55 PM

need to draft Barrett Jones 2nd rd...guy can play every Oline position.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9293449)
how is that a myth. the analytics don't lie.

Neither does the footage.

He got owned in the last 3 games.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9294122)
Neither does the footage.

He got owned in the last 3 games.

Playing next to a rookie.

How was he the 4 games before that?

Look, I'm not saying he's GOOD.

He's also not dog shit.

The world isn't black and white.

TEX 01-07-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9293408)
Seems like a poor FA class this year especially for QB.

Yep, and the draft. Just "Chiefs" luck...

crazycoffey 01-07-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9293422)
Dude, what? he's dropped almost as many as he's caught, he's a TERRIBLE receiver, he has no business going down the field at all, he gets swallowed up by bigger guys to the point that his QB cant even SEE him to throw to him.

Now if you want to make the case that in an Andy Reid system he can have some success out of the backfield on screens/quick hitches/etc in open space, then i could get behind that... but when he goes downfield, how many times have we seen him either drop it or have it knocked loose by bigger db's?

I've said all along that this is the kind of coach he needs to play for, so i do envision some level of success for him here, but it sure as hell isnt in the slot or at any other receiver position.

Dex is a draftubator, he dropped those passes on purpose. SOC funder too

Hammock Parties 01-07-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9294183)
Playing next to a rookie.

How was he the 4 games before that?

Look, I'm not saying he's GOOD.

He's also not dog shit.

The world isn't black and white.

He had a very poor season. He hasn't earned a starting job whatsoever, that's my only point.

We absolutely should sign a FA.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9294696)
He had a very poor season. He hasn't earned a starting job whatsoever, that's my only point.

We absolutely should sign a FA.

Then I wasn't talking to you was I? :)

I agree he had a poor season. As a rookie, changing from OT in college to OG in the pros, and playing on a line that was in flux all season, he was NOT "dog shit" however.

I also don't have a problem with bringing in free agents. This whole discussion started with me not wanting to DRAFT a guard.

Easy 6 01-07-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 9294304)
Dex is a draftubator, he dropped those passes on purpose. SOC funder too

I admit, you got me...

AussieChiefsFan 01-08-2013 03:43 AM

Greg Jennings or Mike Wallace would be awesome. Wouldnt mind Terrence Newman either.

CoMoChief 01-08-2013 06:17 AM

KC Needs: QB, OL, WR, DL, ILB, CB, S

CoMoChief 01-08-2013 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9295599)
Greg Jennings or Mike Wallace would be awesome. Wouldnt mind Terrence Newman either.

Terrance Newman is slower/older than dogshit

O.city 01-28-2013 06:25 PM

What do you guys think about Reggie Bush if he's cut from Miami?


I'd love to bring in/resign Bowe, Albert, Bush, Ellerbe, Shields

RunKC 01-28-2013 06:30 PM

Kenny Phillips or William Moore would be amazing.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:32 PM

I would love to have Moore and that would move Berry to FS, which I would prefer.

ThaVirus 01-28-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359361)
What do you guys think about Reggie Bush if he's cut from Miami?


I'd love to bring in/resign Bowe, Albert, Bush, Ellerbe, Shields

Can't say I'd be mad.

QB aside, this offense needs a serious infusion of speed and playmakers.

He's gotta be getting pretty old though, isn't he? I'd prefer not to overpay, like I'm sure someone will.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:33 PM

Bush is 27. I can't say I'd be upset with Bush, Charles, Draughn/Gray at RB.

mcaj22 01-28-2013 06:36 PM

not a chance Ellerbe gets away from King Ozzie in Ravensville.

Priest31kc 01-28-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359381)
I would love to have Moore and that would move Berry to FS, which I would prefer.

Yes. Would love Willy Mo. Have a feeling he'll resign w/Atlanta tho..

O.city 01-28-2013 06:37 PM

I don't think Ellerbe would get away, but if he did, I'd love to have him paired with DJ.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:37 PM

It would be nice to atleast come out of the offseason with free agents who aren't complete bargain buys like we are used too.

the Talking Can 01-28-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359361)
What do you guys think about Reggie Bush if he's cut from Miami?


I'd love to bring in/resign Bowe, Albert, Bush, Ellerbe, Shields

i think he'd be awesome under reid....charles and bush would be redic, though I wonder if bush is cool being the #2

don't know what ellerbe would go for, but another solid get...

The Bad Guy 01-28-2013 06:46 PM

Signing a free agent guard? Doubt it.

Mike Wallace and Sam Shields would be the 2 on my list. This team needs a burner WR desperately.

Anyone who pays Jennings is just asking for trouble.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:47 PM

Bush Ellerbe and Shields would be a fan****ingtastic free agency haul, IMO.


Bush and Charles as 1a and 1b,


Hali, Houston, DJ, Ellerbe

Shields, Berry, Flowers and draft FS

The Bad Guy 01-28-2013 06:48 PM

Why do we want Bush? I don't want my backup RB to be very similar to my starter.

ThaVirus 01-28-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9359431)
Shields, Berry, Flowers and draft FS

Shit, if we did that I'd rather draft SS. Let Berry slide over to FS.

O.city 01-28-2013 06:51 PM

TBH, I'd like to have someone who could basically be interchangeable at SS and FS. I'd like to have a guy, like Berry, who could potentially do both.


I really like Thomas, the safety prospect, in this draft as a 3rd rounder.

Titty Meat 01-28-2013 06:58 PM

Berry isnt moving to another safety position guys.

The Bad Guy 01-28-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9359475)
Berry isnt moving to another safety position guys.

I don't know about that.

When the Eagles were rumored to be enamored with Berry, it was as a FS.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-28-2013 07:04 PM

Wallace is going to command #1 WR money and he's not worth that. The smart move would be to sign Maclin who can give you 80-90% of Wallace's production at less than half the price.

I want no part of William Moore.

Another thought re: Ellerbe: how many guys leave teams like Baltimore via FA and actually end up being as good as they appeared to be when they were there?


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