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AustinChief 03-30-2011 12:37 AM

The more I think about it, the more I think I should have said NEW SALES SHARE by Jan 1st 2013... damn, that would have been a much easier bet... I am going to have a lot of catching up to do. Owell...

AustinChief 03-30-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7526051)
Some standardization will have to be established, sure. Maybe we can choose a website we agree on that calculates market share that will likely be around in 21 months...

Dammit this is getting complicated.. I wonder if there is an app for this.....

HAHA, ok that me laugh out loud.

AustinChief 03-30-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7526053)
Fine with me. I'm willing to keep this light hearted, and I'm fully intent on following through.

Cool.. the hard part is going to be calculating total tablets sold... different sites may have different criteria... I was going to suggest looking at things like touchscreens sold or ARM processors... but those would probably be inflated... let's hope there are better metrics out there in 21 months!

http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/oth...dshake-147.gif

Fish 03-30-2011 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7526064)
The more I think about it, the more I think I should have said NEW SALES SHARE by Jan 1st 2013... damn, that would have been a much easier bet... I am going to have a lot of catching up to do. Owell...

I'll give you a day to consider it....
Posted via iPad.

The Rick 03-30-2011 10:49 AM

Kudos to you guys (AustinChief and KC Fish) for making this even more interesting now! :)

:thumb:

AustinChief 03-30-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7526073)
I'll give you a day to consider it....
Posted via iPad.

no no no... I made my bed... no changing it now! I'm in if you are.

Now I need to root for HP, Microsoft and RIM to get off their asses and get in the game and help my numbers!

AustinChief 03-31-2011 04:41 PM

Read an article earlier that was written by a market research firm... they claim that the sweet spot for tablet prices is $202-$351

Anything below $202 makes the consumer question quality while anything below $351 (but above $202) and the consumers say they "would definitely buy" at that price..

So basically, I'm counting on a slew of $200-$350 tablets to hit the market over the next 21 months...

WoodDraw 03-31-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7529630)
Read an article earlier that was written by a market research firm... they claim that the sweet spot for tablet prices is $202-$351

Anything below $202 makes the consumer question quality while anything below $351 (but above $202) and the consumers say they "would definitely buy" at that price..

So basically, I'm counting on a slew of $200-$350 tablets to hit the market over the next 21 months...

Yeeks man. Do you want to expand that bet? ;D


Right now the Galaxy TAB, which I consider to be a last generation tablet, is selling at $399 WiFi only/$200 3G+contract. It's going to take a while for market pressure to bring that down substantially.

In other words, you're fooked.

Fish 03-31-2011 08:36 PM

Ehhhh... AustinChief has more to stand on than you're giving him credit for. I do think it will be somewhat close given the extended time frame. He's right about cheap tablets flooding the market. That will happen. But like the netbook wave, it will take more than just cheap prices to gain that much market share. There will be a lot of crappy products released, just to try and beat the price point. But again, like netbooks, people should catch on. I just don't think it will be quite the shift he's betting on. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up with Apple in the mid 20% range by that time. But it will still be enough, I'm confident about that.

iPad2 will bring the share back up in a few months. I do think dual-OS development will play a big part in the debate, and that will be easier for developers as time goes on. But I'm betting some on Apple innovation as well. And I'm confident they'll continue their marketing brilliance..

Apple’s Tablet Market Share Drops to 73%: IDC Reports
by buzzintech on <abbr title="2011-03-12" class="published">March 12, 2011</abbr>
International Data Corporation (IDC), which tracks tablet share across the world, reports that Apple’s share in Tablet market dropped to 73% in this quarter from 93% in the previous quarter. IDC said that in this quarter 10.1 million tablets were shipped in total compared 45 million last quarter, whiche is more than twice. Although there was a huge increase in the number of tablets shipped this quarter, the decrease in Apple’s tablet share is mainly due to Samsung Galaxy Tab. IDC said
Samsung’s Galaxy Tab was the primary competitor in the holiday season, beating other players to market and capturing more than 17% share, while a number of smaller regional players also participated.
As of 2010, about 18 million tablets have been shipped with Apple have 83% of the tablet share. IDC expects Apple to continue its dominance of tablet market with its second generation iPad 2, while the competitors are still struggling to come up with their first tablets.
Nearly 18 Million Media Tablets Shipped in 2010 with Apple Capturing 83% Share;

Fish 04-01-2011 08:46 AM

I'm totally getting this.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/l..._Apple_Store_2


LMAO
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NewChief 04-01-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7530830)
I'm totally getting this.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/l..._Apple_Store_2


LMAO
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I bet those outsell the Android playset.

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AustinChief 04-02-2011 07:01 PM

Here is a great report on the smartphone market ... if you carry it to it's logical conclusion it could apply to the tablet market as well...

http://www.businessinsider.com/andro...t-share-2011-4

Quote:

Importantly, it's not a question of which platform is "better." (This is irrelevant.) It's a question of which platform everyone else uses. And increasingly, in the smartphone market, barring a radical change in trend, that's Android.
So that's why Android's gains matter. And, yes, Apple fans should be scared to death about them.

DaFace 04-02-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7533775)
Here is a great report on the smartphone market ... if you carry it to it's logical conclusion it could apply to the tablet market as well...

http://www.businessinsider.com/andro...t-share-2011-4

Heh....

Quote:

Apple is fighting a very similar war to the one it fought--and lost--in the 1990s. It is trying to build the best integrated products, hardware and software, and maintain complete control over the ecosystem around them. This end-to-end control makes it easier for Apple to build products that are "better," but it makes it much harder for the company to compete against a software platform that is standard across many hardware manufacturers (Windows in the 1990s, Android now).
Ya don't say. This is valid, however:

Quote:

As we explain here, two important things are different about the current Android - iPhone battle than the Mac - Windows war in the 1990s. First, Apple is maintaining price parity (or better) with the leading Android phones. (Macs always cost more than PCs). Second, Android is still a fragmented platform, which significantly reduces the benefits of "interoperability" across multiple manufacturers.

AustinChief 04-02-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7533796)
Ya don't say. This is valid, however:

Both of those issues are being addressed...

#1 you are seeing more and more Android phones that are dropping in price and soon we'll have a massive price range ($100-$500) just like it was in the 1990s with Windows machines... so Apple's price "parity" is already starting to be a thing of the past.

#2 Google has already reigned in Android to a certain degree in an obvious attempt to address the fragmentation issue. The next couple of releases will focus on the UI and bringing the tablet and phone versions back together.

WoodDraw 04-02-2011 08:12 PM

I don't think Apple really cares much, tbh. They target the high end smart phone market and they'll continue to have a high market share there. If other people want to come out and sell $50 Android phones, that will help Android's market share, but Apple never targeted that market to begin with.


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