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patteeu 04-18-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9599090)
http://www.thephins.com/forums/showt...randen-Albert&


Miami fans think a 2nd round pick is to high.

It's the nature of fandom. We see it around here all the time.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-18-2013 10:17 AM

Can we end this Sean Smith is elite shit. The guy is making 5.5m Elite corners get 10m plus.

Hammock Parties 04-18-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9599118)
Does he have to have elite talent for you to be wrong about him? Afterall, your position isn't just that he's not elite, it's that he's terrible. Right?

The idea was "he could be good because he has elite talent."

He doesn't.

I guess he could be an average CB if he adapts to a new scheme better. I'll accept that argument.

The Bad Guy 04-18-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9599004)
I wonder if that means they've agreed on which draft pick it will be.

If the player is visiting the team for a physical, the draft pick comp has basically been agreed to.

BossChief 04-18-2013 10:19 AM

Now I know why COChief doesn't post much.

He says NOTHING but spends endless paragraphs doing so.

COchief 04-18-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9599086)
I haven't lied about ANYTHING you tool.

"going back 2-3 years about Stanzi"

Do I really have to hunt down the hundreds of posts I know you made last year, none of which I am sure have the feel of "I'd put my sister in"?

Proven Liar

I don't give a shit what you promised anyone else on this board, you want to engage me, answer my question. You still haven't done it btw...

Hammock Parties 04-18-2013 10:20 AM

I'm in shock that anyone would attempt to argue I was "wrong" about McCluster.

Anyone with half a brain knows he's been worthless for this team outside a handful of plays.

Rain Man 04-18-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9599090)
http://www.thephins.com/forums/showt...randen-Albert&


Miami fans think a 2nd round pick is to high.


A third? They want to give up a third? I'd give the Dolphins a third just so they'd stop trying to make the trade.

Rausch 04-18-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9599131)
Can we end this Sean Smith is elite shit. The guy is making 5.5m Elite corners get 10m plus.

Smith is every bit as raw as Carr was when he came here.

He has better size with less speed and we're hoping to coach the "Bartee" out of him.

He has, from all I've watched, absolutely no ball awareness. He's got everything you'd want in a DB other than the confidence to turn and locate.

I know, they coach you to play the man but even the best take a quick take back to locate the ball. Smith plays soooOOOOO much like Bartee it scares me...

BossChief 04-18-2013 10:23 AM

I took the day off and am sitting at home watching NFLN and they just said the Dolphins are willing to give up BOTH second round picks for Albert.

I had to rewind the dvr and listen again to make sure I heard it right and I did.

I wouldn't be pissed if we get both 2s for him and take Fisher...so long as we take a qb to groom with one of the second rounders (or trade up if one of them falls)

COchief 04-18-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9599127)
WHAT? He's a shitty player, and that is not up for debate. Why is this even being discussed? DMC's last hope is that Andy Reid will magically make him good. ROFL



I don't think he has sub 4.5 speed.

He ran a 4.51 at the combine and that was five years ago.

Now it's "has" sub 4.5 speed.

You asked "show me one link of him ever running a sub 4.5, hilariously you got two and one of which was an electronically timed 4.47 with NFL combine announcers crowing about him being a 6'3 corner running that time, because that is an "elite skillset" for an NFL corner.

Did you not guarantee and "know" DMC would be cut in training camp? Was he? Were you wrong about that?

Hammock Parties 04-18-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9599152)
Smith is every bit as raw as Carr was when he came here.

He has better size with less speed and we're hoping to coach the "Bartee" out of him.

He has, from all I've watched, absolutely no ball awareness. He's got everything you'd want in a DB other than the confidence to turn and locate.

I know, they coach you to play the man but even the best take a quick take back to locate the ball. Smith plays soooOOOOO much like Bartee it scares me...

Post is 100 percent spot on.

Hammock Parties 04-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9599172)
Did you not guarantee and "know" DMC would be cut in training camp?

I did not.

I admit to being wrong about Sean Smith running a sub 4.5 (barely) once upon a time.

I also don't doubt that he isn't that fast.

Even so, running a 4.4 as a CB doesn't give you elite talent.

The Franchise 04-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9599166)
I took the day off and am sitting at home watching NFLN and they just said the Dolphins are willing to give up BOTH second round picks for Albert.

I had to rewind the dvr and listen again to make sure I heard it right and I did.

I wouldn't be pissed if we get both 2s for him and take Fisher...so long as we take a qb to groom with one of the second rounders (or trade up if one of them falls)

They could easily take a LT in the 2nd round. They spent a lot of time at the Oregon pro day.....maybe they liked what they saw in Kyle Long.

philfree 04-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9599166)
I took the day off and am sitting at home watching NFLN and they just said the Dolphins are willing to give up BOTH second round picks for Albert.

I had to rewind the dvr and listen again to make sure I heard it right and I did.

I wouldn't be pissed if we get both 2s for him and take Fisher...so long as we take a qb to groom with one of the second rounders (or trade up if one of them falls)

Please let it be so. If we could get two 2nd round picks it would ease the burden of not being able to trade out of 1.1. Well unless one of the 2nd picks is next year.


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