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The Franchise 01-11-2013 03:11 PM

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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Matt Flynn's perceived value around the league is "not as high as many people think."

Flynn's name has come up in trade speculation, but only the Dolphins and Seahawks were "mildly" interested in Flynn last offseason, and he didn't play in 2012. So he didn't have an opportunity to show his wares as a potential NFL starter. Most likely, Flynn will be back for one more season in Seattle. He's owed a $5.25 million base salary in 2013, $2 million of which is guaranteed.
www.rotoworld.com

Easy 6 01-11-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9306268)
It would almost completely depend on Baldwin's desire and attitude. If Baldwin wanted to learn and make the switch, he could.


Maybe Reid can fix him as a WR, maybe nobody can fix him. It might be just a conditioning change. :shrug:

I've seen just enough flash from him to think he still has a shot at receiver.

Mostly a disappointment, but he's had his moments.

In Andy I Trust.

Mr. Laz 01-11-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9306297)
In Andy I Trust.

Reid turns McCluster into our Desean Jackson :p

EagleRob 01-11-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9306330)
Reid turns McCluster into our Desean Jackson :p

Based on nothing other than Reid's 2010 infatuation with his skill set coming out of college, I see him more as a Brian Westbrook or a Jason Avant.

Mr. Laz 01-11-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9306375)
Based on nothing other than Reid's 2010 infatuation with his skill set coming out of college, I see him more as a Brian Westbrook or a Jason Avant.

I don't know about Avant but McCluster doesn't have anything near the escapability of Westbrook. DmC can't make people miss so they need to scheme him to the open field.

DmC can still be productive though, get him in the open field where his quickness and speed can make an impact.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9306019)
How is it an option?

1. Flynn didn't really do anything in GB.....he had two good games.
2. Green Bay didn't want to pay to hang onto him and they didn't even deem him good enough to give him the franchise tag and try and find a trade partner.
3. He was supposed to be this QB that was going to get the next big payday. He was linked to a number of teams......and then he signed with the Seahawks for a "meh" sized contract.
4. All you heard after that was Flynn was going to be the starter.....and then he was beat out by a 3rd round QB who everyone thought was to small to play in the NFL.


Definitely sounds like a guy we should trade for. :rolleyes:

I actually like Flynn...

{runs away}

I know there's still plenty of Cassel stink on this idea, and I know it's not one that is generally successful, but I did watch the games that Flynn played and I really was impressed by his skill set (as opposed to Cassel's, who I stated from the start I did not care for).

I still want Geno, but we need 3 QBs in here and at least one of them needs to have been a pro for awhile. No, Flynn doesn't have a lot of game experience, but don't ever underestimate how important it is to have played football for a living.

Every day he wakes up and it's all football, all day. He's been immersed in the NFL game really since Geno was in High School. Flynn does have some experience in this league that would be very valuable on this roster.

I don't want to give up the farm for him, but his deal is actually very reasonble now that the signing bonus is covered by the signing party. If you're okay with spending a 3rd or 4th on a 2nd quarterback in the draft, why wouldn't you be okay with using a 4thish to acquire Flynn?

He'd be a nice addition as a guy that can start if Smith isn't catching on or as a very valuable backup.

Easy 6 01-11-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9306330)
Reid turns McCluster into our Desean Jackson :p

LMAO

Dont go overboard, but yeah, if dex has a future in the NFL its going to be with Reid.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9306397)
I don't know about Avant but McCluster doesn't have anything near the escapability of Westbrook. DmC can't make people miss so they need to scheme him to the open field.

DmC can still be productive though, get him in the open field where his quickness and speed can make an impact.

If there's an Avant on this roster, it's Breaston.

McCluster doesn't have anywhere close to the hands or awareness in space to be similar to Jason Avant.

crazycoffey 01-11-2013 03:51 PM

I hope scoring and winning are part of the new philosophy

Easy 6 01-11-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 9306431)
I hope scoring and winning are part of the new philosophy

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Groves 01-11-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306400)
If you're okay with spending a 3rd or 4th on a 2nd quarterback in the draft, why wouldn't you be okay with using a 4thish to acquire Flynn?

Lets make it really simple.

We would not be ok with that because one of those choices (rhymes with "rat grin") has a known and not super high ceiling, while the other (draft pick) has what we call a "possibly Tom Brady" ceiling.


We've spent our years playing it safe, and now we're going to do something else.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Groves (Post 9306453)
Lets make it really simple.

We would not be ok with that because one of those choices (rhymes with "rat grin") has a known and not super high ceiling, while the other (draft pick) has what we call a "possibly Tom Brady" ceiling.


We've spent our years playing it safe, and now we're going to do something else.

But that's what Geno Smith is for.

I wholly endorse the high risk pick at QB; we have very little to lose there. But there's no need to do it twice. Get your HR pick made, then get a good, competent, backup/spot starter in there.

I also think you're misstating when you say we know his ceiling and that it isn't very high. No, it's not Tom Brady, but it's Matt Schaub. If you could have Matt Schaub as a fallback position on this roster, wouldn't it make all the sense in the world?

Sorter 01-11-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306411)
If there's an Avant on this roster, it's Breaston.

McCluster doesn't have anywhere close to the hands or awareness in space to be similar to Jason Avant.

Or size. ROFL. Avant is a much better NFL WR than DMC at this point. Not even close.

Groves 01-11-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306458)
If you could have Matt Schaub as a fallback position on this roster, wouldn't it make all the sense in the world?

If I'm choosing between Matt Schaub and Tom Brady I'm taking Tom Brady.

Is that who were picking between or is it really between Flynn and another QB in the draft?

I hear what you're saying, just don't agree.

O.city 01-11-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306458)
But that's what Geno Smith is for.

I wholly endorse the high risk pick at QB; we have very little to lose there. But there's no need to do it twice. Get your HR pick made, then get a good, competent, backup/spot starter in there.

I also think you're misstating when you say we know his ceiling and that it isn't very high. No, it's not Tom Brady, but it's Matt Schaub. If you could have Matt Schaub as a fallback position on this roster, wouldn't it make all the sense in the world?

This.


Geno is your Brady, now you gotta find your experienced Mark Brunnel type guy who can keep the ship on course for small amounts of time.


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