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Sorter 05-11-2013 10:46 PM

****Official Teddy Bridgewater Thread****
 
Might as well. Have at it you powerful fiends.

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RealSNR 05-11-2013 10:54 PM

Cool! Another franchise QB that we can't have!

RealSNR 05-11-2013 10:58 PM

We need to root for this guy to suck so he'll fall to us

Saccopoo 05-11-2013 11:05 PM

Chuckie Keeton is better.

Sorter 05-11-2013 11:06 PM

I'm not really impressed but I've yet to really break down anything or look up what kind of offense Louisville runs.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-12-2013 06:53 AM

We have Bray. He would be ranked higher than this guy in next years class anyway...

Pasta Little Brioni 05-12-2013 08:13 AM

Meh. Cockmon pimped him soooo

ChiefsCountry 05-12-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9676503)
Chuckie Keeton is better.

Clearly the 6'0 185 pound quarterback from Utah State is the best quarterback propspect in the draft. :doh!:

BlackHelicopters 05-12-2013 11:42 AM

Does a "Teddy Bridgewater" have vodka or gin in it?

Pasta Little Brioni 05-12-2013 04:02 PM

Can't wait to see the excuses on why we can't draft next year's QB crop

Saccopoo 05-12-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9676902)
Clearly the 6'0 185 pound quarterback from Utah State is the best quarterback propspect in the draft. :doh!:

If you want to talk about size and such, you should go start a Logan Thomas thread.

You want to talk about who is the better quarterback between Keeton and Bridgewater, I'm going with Keeton. The guy can flat out play.

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RealSNR 05-12-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9677575)
Can't wait to see the excuses on why we can't draft next year's QB crop

"Alex Smith was injured... can't lose your job to injuries"

"We don't know what Tyler Bray has. What if we draft a QB and Tyler Bray is the better QB?"

"It's been one year. Just give Alex some time before you look to replace him"

"Aren't you the guy who liked Geno Smith? Clearly your 'draft a QB' mantra is totally wrong!"

The Franchise 05-12-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9676688)
We have Bray. He would be ranked higher than this guy in next years class anyway...

ROFL

Yeah.....I'm sure Bray could have overcome losing his top 2 WRs and learning a brand new offense.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-13-2013 12:31 PM

Gil Brandt‏@Gil_Brandt2m
My top 5 sr QBs: 1. Aaron Murray, UGA; 2. AJ McCarron, ALA; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; 3. Derek Carr, Fresno; 5. David Fales, SJS

ChiefsCountry 05-13-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9678849)
Gil Brandt‏@Gil_Brandt2m
My top 5 sr QBs: 1. Aaron Murray, UGA; 2. AJ McCarron, ALA; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; 3. Derek Carr, Fresno; 5. David Fales, SJS

Bridgewater is a junior so FAIL on your part.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-13-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9678933)
Bridgewater is a junior so FAIL on your part.

How did I fail?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2013 10:45 PM

In b4 the scouting tear down as he's over analyzed.

RunKC 05-14-2013 11:55 PM

This guy is gonna be really good. Hope the Raiders don't get a chance to get him.

duncan_idaho 05-17-2013 02:03 PM

Step 1: Acquire another team's backup QB to be your new starter. Point to his potential and ability to be a leader and keep the team in games. Ignore his inability to WIN games.

CHECK: Alex Smith acquired

Step 2: With a high 1st-round pick, insist there is no QB worthy of that high pick and that it is best to wait until later in the draft and get a similar QB at better value.
- 2A: After all worthwhile QBs go off the board between 1st and 2nd round picks, again point to value and draft BPA.
- 2B: Continue 2A until drafting a Ricky Stanzi/Pat Barnes in Round 5 or later

CHECK: Drafting a QB early avoided. Tyler Bray signed as UDFA to replace Step 2B

Step 3: Say you will wait until next year to draft a QB in the 1st and develop a franchise guy.

And... here... we... are

Step 4: Slog to somewhere between 7-10 wins and talk up how "competitive" your season was and how "close" the team is.

Step 5: When next year comes, watch in feigned dismay as all the "good" QBs go off the board before your pick. Sigh, sell "BPA available" and draft for that, saying "We're too close to winning something big to reach on a QB at this pick. Other needs must be addressed. We'll get a similar QB later at a better value."
- Step 5a: Again watch in dismay as no similar QBs are available by the next pick. Again draft BPA.
- Step 5B: Rinse and repeat 5A until eventually arriving at 2B.

Step 6: Talk up previously acquired backup QB, now-starter and how much talent you've added in the draft around him. Reference "weapons" and "chunks."

Step 7: Repeat Steps 5-6 for 2-3 more years, then reset at Step 1.
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Skull-FU 05-22-2013 12:49 PM

He won't be there when KC picks. There is no point in talking about Bridgewater or Aaron Murray. They'll be long gone.

Hammock Parties 10-26-2013 10:42 AM

We're going to miss out on this Gold Toof Dawg, too. And he's probably better than Geno.

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Saccopoo 10-26-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10124557)
We're going to miss out on this Gold Toof Dawg, too. And he's probably better than Geno.

No, he's not.

His mechanics aren't as good (e.g., his throwing motion is really varied, he doesn't set his feet much, etc.), he doesn't have the same pocket feel/presence and his footwork isn't as consistent coming out into his drops.

He looks like he's just a guy to me.

planetdoc 04-17-2014 12:55 PM

Gruden's QB Camp: Teddy Bridgewater

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Direckshun 04-17-2014 01:02 PM

I can't view the video where I am.

Can somebody describe Bridgewater's personality in this Gruden bit?

He always seems mousy and quiet.

The Franchise 04-17-2014 01:47 PM

Interesting that he said that he almost quit football in his freshman year at Louisville because things weren't going the way he thought they would go (wasn't starting).

The Franchise 04-17-2014 01:49 PM

Likeable kid though.

The Franchise 04-17-2014 02:16 PM

Could he be Dorsey's Aaron Rodgers?

planetdoc 04-17-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10569347)
Could he be Dorsey's Aaron Rodgers?

yes.

Gruden even mentioned that louisville runs a lot of west coast concepts. This would only accelerate his development in Andy Reid's system.

milkman 04-17-2014 04:13 PM

Bridgewater scares the hell out of me.

He's a guy that could have us pining for the days of a less brittle Brody Croyle.

kccrow 04-17-2014 07:10 PM

I don't like his mental makeup and his timidness. He's going to get his ass handed to him on a silver platter on Sundays, hell he could get broken in the cold, and soon be an afterthought.

HolyHat 04-23-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9689037)
Step 1: Acquire another team's backup QB to be your new starter. Point to his potential and ability to be a leader and keep the team in games. Ignore his inability to WIN games.

CHECK: Alex Smith acquired

Step 2: With a high 1st-round pick, insist there is no QB worthy of that high pick and that it is best to wait until later in the draft and get a similar QB at better value.
- 2A: After all worthwhile QBs go off the board between 1st and 2nd round picks, again point to value and draft BPA.
- 2B: Continue 2A until drafting a Ricky Stanzi/Pat Barnes in Round 5 or later

CHECK: Drafting a QB early avoided. Tyler Bray signed as UDFA to replace Step 2B

Step 3: Say you will wait until next year to draft a QB in the 1st and develop a franchise guy.

And... here... we... are

Step 4: Slog to somewhere between 7-10 wins and talk up how "competitive" your season was and how "close" the team is.

Step 5: When next year comes, watch in feigned dismay as all the "good" QBs go off the board before your pick. Sigh, sell "BPA available" and draft for that, saying "We're too close to winning something big to reach on a QB at this pick. Other needs must be addressed. We'll get a similar QB later at a better value."
- Step 5a: Again watch in dismay as no similar QBs are available by the next pick. Again draft BPA.
- Step 5B: Rinse and repeat 5A until eventually arriving at 2B.

Step 6: Talk up previously acquired backup QB, now-starter and how much talent you've added in the draft around him. Reference "weapons" and "chunks."

Step 7: Repeat Steps 5-6 for 2-3 more years, then reset at Step 1.
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Stuck in QB purgatory

Halfcan 04-28-2014 10:01 AM

All signs are pointing to Teddy Bridgewater being drafted by the Chiefs!

1. Too good to pass up with a late first round pick. Only 4 INTs last year running a "pro style offense".
2. Dropped from as high as #1 pick due to to a shaky Pro day in which he failed to wear his throwing gloves for some reason??
3. Praised as being humble, a hard worker and student of the game.


Plus it is time to break the Blackledge curse.

Alex has proven to be a great mentor, Teddy could learn a lot in the next year as he continues to grow and put on muscle.

What do you guys think??

planetdoc 04-28-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10590520)
What do you guys think??

I trust Reid's decision on Qbs either way. He has a good track record.

Saccopoo 04-28-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10590520)
All signs are pointing to Teddy Bridgewater being drafted by the Chiefs!

1. Too good to pass up with a late first round pick. Only 4 INTs last year running a "pro style offense".
2. Dropped from as high as #1 pick due to to a shaky Pro day in which he failed to wear his throwing gloves for some reason??
3. Praised as being humble, a hard worker and student of the game.


Plus it is time to break the Blackledge curse.

Alex has proven to be a great mentor, Teddy could learn a lot in the next year as he continues to grow and put on muscle.

What do you guys think??

I think Freddy Bilgewater is the exact same guy as Blackledge.

Excellent, very accurate and successful college QB who is skinny, lacks arm strength, bad footwork and release and doesn't run through his progression tree very well.

I think their careers will be similar due to the similar deficiencies in their games.

Halfcan 04-28-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10590618)
I think Freddy Bilgewater is the exact same guy as Blackledge.

Excellent, very accurate and successful college QB who is skinny, lacks arm strength, bad footwork and release and doesn't run through his progression tree very well.
I think their careers will be similar due to the similar deficiencies in their games.

:doh!: Just a month or so ago many had him as the top pick in the draft? Here is an interesting article on the points you just made.


Teddy Bridgewater's draft stock is falling, and there's no good reason why
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B Eric Adelson16 hours agoYahoo Sports

Teddy Bridgewater needs to seize the moment

.NFL draft experts like to talk about "measurables" at this time of here. So here's one:

Four.

That's the number of interceptions thrown in the entire 2013 season by Teddy Bridgewater. Four interceptions against 31 touchdowns. A year ago, that kind of season would have only reinforced the widely held belief that Bridgewater was a top-two pick in the 2014 draft.

Instead, he's plummeting.

Mike Mayock of NFL Network said this weekend he would not take Bridgewater in the first round; Mayock was formerly very high on the former Louisville star.

Mayock's not alone. The consensus on Bridgewater has veered from highly coveted to highly criticized in the months since he threw for three touchdowns and 447 yards in the Russell Athletic Bowl against Miami. The change in regard for Bridgewater is getting beyond the realm of the curious. It's more in the neighborhood of ridiculous.

NFL cognoscenti seem to flock together: It's a copycat league. Strangely, though, there's little copying of what works among quarterbacks at the pro level. Football minds keep gravitating to the quarterbacks who show unrefined physical prowess over those who have a clear track record on the field. You'd think GMs would learn their lesson after watching Tom Brady and Drew Brees win Super Bowls. Instead, the chase seems to be on for the next Jeff George. Only a month or so after Bridgewater finished his college career, Russell Wilson won the Super Bowl with the Seahawks. Wilson also had four interceptions in his final college season at Wisconsin, against 33 touchdowns. His completion percentage (72.8) was also comparable to Bridgewater's (71.0). Wilson went in the third round, and most thought he would be a first-round pick if he were just a little bit taller. Bridgewater is just a little bit taller: 6-foot-2 to Wilson's 5-11. Is it a second chance to draft a seasoned passer like Wilson?

Teddy Bridgewater's decision to throw without gloves on pro day didn't help him. (AP)
Or is it a second chance to whiff? Bridgewater is drifting in credibility while former Pitt quarterback Tom Savage, who transferred twice and never got close to the statistical display shown consistently by Bridgewater, is perhaps the hottest name in the draft. Savage is 6-5 with a big arm, and he reminds scouts of Nick Foles, who switched his commitment from Arizona State to Michigan State and then left East Lansing for Arizona. So transferring is now a good sign?

What's even sillier about all this is Bridgewater had lots of decision-making responsibility at the line of scrimmage at Louisville. He took over as starter at age 18 and threw for nearly 10,000 yards over three seasons. His interception count dropped from 12 in his first year to 8 to 4. His intelligence and work ethic have never been questioned, and any concerns about his ability to beat top teams vanished more than a year ago, when Bridgewater dissected a Florida defense considered one of the best in the nation – led by coordinator Dan Quinn, who would leave after that Sugar Bowl for the Seahawks and a Super Bowl title. Savage's only comparable game came in 2013 when he took on title-bound Florida State and threw for 201 yards and two interceptions.

So what happened to Bridgewater? For one thing, he had a poor pro day. He took off his throwing gloves for the occasion – a decision that a good agent would have talked him out of – and he looked wobbly. For many draft experts, it was the first live look at Bridgewater, and it didn't go well. How that one day in an artificial football laboratory undoes three full years of actual play is hard to figure.

But that's what's happened. Experts like Mayock have looked back at the game film and found new flaws in Bridgewater: his deep balls aren't as crisp; his outside-the-hashes targets aren't as accurate. Why that didn't result in more than four interceptions last season is anyone's guess. Perhaps American Athletic Conference defenses are simply inferior. Though that hasn't hurt UCF's Blake Bortles' draft stock much.

The other worry about Bridgewater is his size. Not his height, but his heft. According to his NFL.com combine profile, Bridgewater is 214 pounds and has a "very lean, narrow frame with limited bulk." In fact, a major chunk of the "weaknesses" section of that report has to do with Bridgewater's thickness. "Long term durability could become a concern," it says, "without continued strength and weight gains."
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Bridgewater threw only four interceptions last season. (USA Today)
Well, about that: Bridgewater needed jaw surgery during college and dropped from 222 pounds to 196. He's put most of that weight back on, and he's likely to add even more bulk once he gets into a nutrition program with his new team. He's only 21, and likely to get bigger as he matures. Bortles, by the way, is a year older than Bridgewater and Savage is nearly three. It's hard to argue their potential is greater than Bridgewater's just because they have less starting experience.

And as for durability, just revisit the November night in 2012 when Louisville traveled to Rutgers with a BCS bid in the balance. Bridgewater didn't start, as he had a broken wrist and a badly sprained ankle. But he asked to go into the game when the Cardinals fell behind, and promptly rallied them from 11 points down to win. Rutgers coach Kyle Flood called it one of the greatest college performances he's ever seen.

It's easy to wonder if racism is in play here. Alex Smith's draft preview reads almost exactly like Bridgewater's and he went first overall. Now he's a veteran starter for a playoff team. But instead of something nefarious, Bridgewater's fall is more likely because draft experts gravitate to big: big arms, big bodies and big personalities. Statistics and winning are easily dismissed as products of a system. Just ask former Cal standout Aaron Rodgers.

Bridgewater isn't a big talker – there wasn't even a Heisman campaign for him – so he's not going to pump his own tires. That might be hurting him too, especially compared to the always-entertaining Johnny Manziel, who had a former U.S. president at his pro day.

But if you want an egoless, driven, smart and proven quarterback to lead your wayward franchise, you could do worse than to part with the growing majority of the draft experts and pick Teddy Bridgewater.

The consequences for those who pass on him will certainly be "measurable."

In58men 04-28-2014 03:04 PM

I would cry I we drafted him and they would be happy tears.

bigjosh 04-28-2014 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10591171)
I would cry I we drafted him and they would be happy tears.

This

kccrow 04-28-2014 05:28 PM

Providing they both have the requisite Wonderlic scores (I expect they do), the QBs most likely to succeed from this class are AJ McCarron and Aaron Murray, if you use the combined Bill Parcells and 26-27-60 formula to project potential at the position. You can all read about those metrics, so I wont' post here, but none of the other QBs in the top 10 meet all of the criteria.


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