Yep, I agree with you there and the competition is close.

it's amazing that a fanbase that wouldn't have traded for RG3 last year now uses him as some unimpeachable standard for whether or not we're allowed to draft a QB...

I think it might have been his ability to be clutch and win games down the stretch and play the QB position extremely well, not blow them and look like an asshole (Geno). LMAO

Look at the ****ing idiots that are pimping Wilson, that should explain everything. Not to mention this not playing in the worthless Senior Bowl shit about Geno is getting old as hell and it doesn't matter one damn bit.

Yeah, that game losing INT that he threw to Arthur Brown against K State, that was CLUTCH.

You're an idiot.

I don't know man. I like Wilson. I think him doing well in the Senior Bowl could elevate his stock.

But this stuff about Geno is just typical hater BS. Don't care.

I liked RGII but wouldn't have traded for him because guys like him get hurt. He is a small running QB. He's great in the pocket but, relies too much on his legs right now and will take some time to develop into a true passing NFL QB.... just like Vick.... If his career lasts that long.

He wasn't worth all of those picks imo. I think time will show that. The Falcons didn't come out on top of the Vick trade either.

3 successful drives out of 11 and 0/10 on 3rd down his bowl game.

CLUTCH!

like i said....

Why can't we have a decent realistic discussion about Geno on this site? He has a cult like following here. It's not that "out there" for people to like Wilson better. Everyone has an opinion. Just like you have opinion in your post above.

For the record, I like Geno very much but, If I said Geno had bad breath I would be in the red. It's time to grow up guys. We need a QB and there are some smart people here. Let's keep an open mind.

Do you really want a response from someone with barkley in their sig?

Was watching Metro Sports last night...Leif Lisec asked Danan Hughes if Geno Smith would be an option for the Chiefs at #1...

Danan's response: "I don't think so. I haven't seen much of him but I don't think he has a very strong arm." Blah blah blah I forgot what else he said.

But what a ****ing moron. I used to like Hughes until this. ****ing analysts getting paid and not knowing what they're talking about.

Ask RunKC.

Um, yeah.

I'm open minded.

is this a joke?

we have a 10,000 post thread discussing every snap of geno's career

this thread is now just a troll thread for people who know nothing about smith other than the fact that Maycock just scolded him for skipping mayock's favorite weekend...and for being an illiterate gang member

and the only thing you know about Smith is that "people say he isn't RG3" your opinion is worth much

Wilson is a legit first round pick but when complete neanderthals like CoMo, RunKC, Frankie, Tomahawk etc are pimping a player you know its best to run far away from him.

Whaaaaaaat? :spock:

Because talking can is a dumbass who doesn't want to share an opinion. If it's not part of his narrative, than you're a dumbass who's never seen him play before.

Geno is just as good as generational QB prospects on this board.

Yeah, I laughed.

And Evan Silva never tweeted me back after sending me the "no chance they draft geno, brent. guaranteed they won't" DM...

I think you'll find that most on this board agrees with you. Sometimes the line between "don't draft a QB/Draft a Qb not named Geno Smith" can get crossed in some people's heads.

I like tyler Wilson. I think he is a good prospect. But his concussion history is a huge red flag. Huge.

Another outright lie.

By "have a rational discussion" you mean everybody should start getting on board with trading down/trading for Flynn/A Smith/Freeman/passing on a QB just because we have smart people in charge now?

It would be one thing if this were a political discussion where we had a wide spectrum of opinions. This isn't. There are very limited options in how the Chiefs will find a future starting QB. You're one of those people who claims, "I'm not saying we should take Joeckel or trade for a veteran." You also claim you like Geno.

Okay, then. So what's the irrationality in this discussion? I don't ****ing see it anywhere. How can somebody call for realism in a discussion about a specific player and then pooh pooh all the alternatives to drafting said player?

I don't ****ing get it.

This.

about 3 months before the draft he's guaranteeing this? Ask him what the upcoming powerball numbers for the lottery so you can hit the jackpot.

ROFL

l love the butt hurt

you showed up, got your ass handed to you a half-dozen different ways...and now you hang around like a sad puppy

Ok, I give up on talking about Geno for a while. This is one of those things that I think will play itself out.

He's still here because he knows he's ruining this thread. He's the prototypical troll.

Probably for the best.

Right now, this thread is RunKC's personal kitty box.

Nah just tired of people making excuses for him.

we discussed him all year, not sure what's left to explore

the truth is, right now there is nothing really to say...about any of the top QBs

no one is going to play a real snap in a real game....but perceptions are going to rise and fall on chatter and numbers and generally large amounts of bullshit...things that will effect the opinions of people who never watched the QBs play (runkc and most chiefs fans that call into sports radio)

the Chiefs will make their own evaluations of the QBs, and that will be that

Yeah, that's why you've completely ignored any of the legitimate criticisms that have been made, repeatedly, by these same people.

Thanks for ruining another thread, Bob.

What criticisms? They are hidden with over 10,000 pages of excuses.

Half of those 10K posts are yours.

Amazing for somebody who doesn't even like Geno Smith.

Discussing him isn't a problem.

And I love how a lot of the Geno crowd is putting on their Nick Wright attitdue. Make fun of all the white prospects but the second somone says something bad about Geno it's "raycess" LMAO

Truth.

Once the opinions of the "experts" begin to sway (after they talk to teams at the combine of course) so too will the opinion of the fans. It's gonna be funny to watch actually.

I think your problem is more with the Geno fans than Geno himself. Just an observation.

Agreed. They make the kid really hard to like.

well the Geno crowd is sick of hearing how he's just another Michael Vick or Jemarcus Russel.

It's not racist to question Geno Smith's tendency to force the ball when his team gets down by multi-score margins.

It IS racist to claim he doesn't seem to have much upstairs, and that he "comes off like Jamarcus Russell"

wait, the troll who showed up to tell us he had 'proof' of the 'conspiracy' to hide the fact that Smith was an illiterate gang banger in high school is now claiming...um, what exactly?

the guy who couldn't take 3 minutes away from Starcraft to actually watch one of Geno's game this year, this guy is now claiming we're the only reason he doesn't like Smith?

ROFL

holy shit, brah....you got issues

If he is being told "don't go to the SR. bowl, you are already a top 10 pick" by his agent, I understand not going and instead staying and training. I don't like the idea, wish he would have went to Mobile, but I get it.


So saying he's already a top 10 pick based on what has already occurred, couple things could happen by going to the SR bowl. He could jolt to be the sure first overall pick, or fall out of the top 10. Pre SR bowl, it's pretty much a consensus that he's the top QB in the class.


So like I said, I get not going. If he's also been told he can not go to Mobile, throw at the combine and his prodays to solidify being the first overall pick, again, I get it.


Personally, I would have preferred he go and show everyone that he either is the first pick or isn't.

Has that ever happened? A guy people thought wasnt good enough plays in the senior bowl and all the sudden the haters dissapear?

Anyone think that maybe Geno went to IMG because the teams interested can come and actually watch him practice in a situation he has been in for a month, instead of the senior bowl where he will get to practice for a week?

No, probably wouldn't have happened.


Like I said, if it were me and I'd pretty much already locked up being the top QB in the class, or thats what I was being told, I wouldn't go either.

So much butthurt over a guy not playing in a glorified scrimage.

Another blatant lie.

Half the people here didn't become die-hard Geno fans until they were bombarded daily by idiotic takes like yours.

Congrats.

Get that logic outta here.

Kiper said Glennon is the best QB in the draft!!! OMG!!!111!1!!

This has been going on since late September, like 2 months before I started questioning the kid. LMAO

Another lie.

can Geno Smith become the 1st pick if avoids working out completely?

no senior bowl
no throwing at the combine
no pro day

if he pulls a 'i'm already the 1st pick' and only has a private workout from now until the draft will he have done enough to become the 1st pick?

Fanboi's don't need to answer

I'm sure he'll have a pro day, and likely will throw at the combine.


But to answer your question, unless he's already been told by the Chiefs that they plan on taking him, no I don't see that happening.

He will have a pro day. He wont throw at the combine though I wouldnt think.

Doubtful.

But I'm sure he is going to at least have a pro day
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Last legit QB prospect not to have a pro day?

Question to the non Geno guys. Say he does have a pro day and throws at the Combine, where he gets raving reviews.


Be ok to draft him then?

I doubt he'll throw at the combine. That would likely do more harm than good. He'd have no chemistry with the WRs he'd be throwing to and as a QB, I don't think that's a risk you'd want to take.

Exactly. That's just idiocy.

Andrew Luck had a pro day. Eli Manning had a pro day. Geno Smith will have a pro day.

He may not throw at the combine, probably won't.

I'd say the reason he is at IMB or wherever is that whoever can come in and watch him throw whenever they want.

I think he will throw at both his Pro Day and at the combine.

I don't know, seems like some of the players have been avoiding their school pro days because it's not catered specially for them.

Sometimes they just have their own private workout day.

If he is not going to the bowls etc then what makes you think he will do anything at the combine besides get measured?

He's more likely to run at the combine than throw.

He'll probably do everything at the combine but throw.

Throwing at the combine or at a pro day is so overrated it's crazy. It's like watching a model on the runway. If the chick looks good getting out of bed in the morning then she is hot. It's the same type of deal with QBs. The film speaks for itself as far as throwing the ball goes imo.

This is not a knock on Geno. It's a knock on evaluating QBs at the combine or at their pro days.

Eh, the combine and pro days are all about the mental aspect.

I agree, and this is why I think he will throw at both days. For a guy like him (and any really good accuracy QB) its gonna be like shooting fish in a barrel~

Given that the other top prospects on his team are all WRs, I would imagine he'll just attend his team's pro day. It benefits him and them as well.

good point

throwing to Bailey and Austin benefits them all


in fact he will probably feel obligated to work out for his teammates' draft status too.

Why throw at the combine with WR's you dont know? When you can at his pro day. I would think Geno does everything but throw at the combine. Really no reason to throw, more to lose at that point. But some will question his competitiveness.

as long as he works out I think he will be ok
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Maybe he took a gamble that by staying away from the SR bowl, all the other QB's will shit themselves and he'll rise by happenstance?

There's no gamble.

The only thing he does at the Senior Bowl is hurt his stock and risk potential injury.

I'd rather have him working out full time at IMG with Weinke than jerking it around with a bunch of guys he's never played with for five days.

There's really not much else he needs to prove in terms of what he has and can accomplish on the field in a real time game setting. I think it's a much better thought process to begin working on fine tuning himself for the combine and beyond.

Or cement his status as the #1 QB by looking better than the other QB's with pads on?

Except for the good arm part...

Could very well be unnecessary.

Simple fact is none of us know what teams have told him.

By chance, has is it been said when Geno will have his pro day. Doesn't nfl network show the pro days for top prospects...?

What a ridiculous notion. As a fan of the chiefs you should want a player to go out and prove himself, not a guy worried about his stock slipping.

Prove himself in the SENIOR BOWL?

Talk about ridiculous notions...

LMAO

If you're a top 5 pick already you gain nothing by working out in Mobile. Nothing.

a compilation of scout's opinions from April of last year...fyi

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/148026515.html