The answer may be buried in here somewhere, but why is the plane flying so early?

still waiting on the GD small deposit from Pay Pal; I'm having my wife check again today.

Buried in the OP

:doh!:

Why do I get the feeling that even with a bad finger, DeBerg could go tomorrow?

Because even with a bad finger, DeBerg could go tomorrow.

I only wish Cassel had Deburg's drive.

He does. The guy came back and played 4 days after having his appendix removed. The also organized workouts during the lockout. There is no questioning the guy is tough and wants to be a leader.

The problem is his effectiveness on the field.

This may be in here somewhere, but did one of our twits tweet or email this to the DP show?

The fox4 article says 9-10am.

Yup... I did.

Would that be the Dan Patrick Show? They filmed our RV at last week's game. Dad's been taping it to see if it airs. They didn't tell us when it would if it does.

Bill Maas is full of shit. When I sent this to him on Facebook he said Wow! Then told me how he liked the idea.

@BillMaasThe only thing flying a banner does is give another excuse for the players to hang their weak efforts on.


:facepalm:



Go do another line Maas....

This would be even more awesome if instead of choosing pr_capone as his username he would have selected something like sex_puppet16.

Ok peeps, I'm gonna be gone for the next hour or two, gonna clean up the house and do some studying so I don't come off as a complete tool, which is likely inevitable. lol

They show snippets of that kind of stuff all the time before and after breaks, it will be cool to see but it will probably be quick!

I might recommend not studying. I would advise that you refresh yourself on the things you already know. Trying to learn a bunch of new stuff before an interview will only cause you to come off as a complete tool, because you increase the likelihood that you'll get facts mixed up.

Go with what you know. You'll surprise yourself

Bill Maas' Facebook post from this morning:
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The only thing flying a banner does is give another excuse for the players to hang their weak efforts on. #chiefs http://t.co/qh5Qu4pT
Chiefs banner flying over Arrowhead: 'We Deserve Better! Fire Pioli - Bench Cassel'
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Chiefs fans have raised money to fly a banner critical of Scott Pioli and Matt Cassel over Arrowhead Stadium.
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Marty McDonald With all the special 50-year press going on the Hunts will not enjoy negative publicity.
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Marty McDonald Www.saveourchiefs.com
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Christie Chiefsfan I'm not a fan of this. There are proper ways to vent your frustrations about what you feel is wrong...emails, phone calls and letters to front office. I for one can't point out two people considering the fact that interceptions, fumbles, a weak oline allowing our QB almost constant pressure, non aggressive play calls and a non consistent defense have easily been seen. We are losing as a team and can only win as one, too. From management through players we need to find the issues. As fans, we do not have the credibility or backgrounds to know what the thinking is in management nor the ability to understand the full process of management/coaching/playing. I don't know, it's sad to me that other good teams are having poor seasons, too, but their fans are not bashing their players or posting photos mocking them. I even see people wishing Cassel to be hurt by the opposing teams :( My love for football goes way beyond a W or L (though wins are way better of course), it is memories, friendships and just an American pastime that we are all privileged to have. Yes, players need to step up but so does coaching and management...this has to be a team improvement and as fans we have to encourage just that...TEAM accountability. I love my Chiefs, but honestly right now..I'm more disappointed in some of our fans than I am the losses. :(
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Marty McDonald Christie, you kind of hit the nail on the head when you write: "Yes, players need to step up but so does coaching and management...this has to be a team improvement and as fans we...See More
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Scott Neal Bring back Marty!
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Marty McDonald Wishing injury to a player is dumb...beyond dumb actually.
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Christie Chiefsfan If I remember correctly, when our fans started the "Suck for Luck" campaign, Luck respectably stated he would never want to play for a team that would do something like that to their qb. Honestly, I gained total respect for him because of that! Our actions not only serve as a reflection of our fanbase but can affect what future players want to come into. I understand the frustrations, but frustrations do not need to turn this into a circus. We need to keep common sense and voice our opinions to front office in a respectable yet firm way. I just will respectfully disagree that this is the way to do it. Sportsmanship doesn't just fall on the players, it falls on us as fans, too... and that I will not budge on.
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Darren Gray Sounds like christie works in the Chiefs front office. In my opinion, if the team sucks, we have the right to say whatever we want. Its not about "being respectful". I think pioli is disrespecting the fans by marching cassel out there every week.
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Marty McDonald Writing letters accomplishes nothing in this era. Sending emails to first name.lastname@chiefs.nfl.com or (firstinitial)(lastname)@chiefs.nfl.com will get deleted. Once you send the "communication" internally, its lost. Its very easy to get lost (just ask Todd Haley). However, when you take the message and communicate outward, where the Chiefs can't control it, well, then guess what...you get heard.

Its no different than sports radio guys/gals talking down on the Chiefs but it reaches a point where the Chiefs call the station and say "hey, enough is enough, your access will be limited" It happens.

Would this movement have more credibility if WHB came up with the idea? Maybe. But you are talking about fans in KC, across the United States of America who spend money on a team that needs a major culture change.

If random strangers coming together to raise money to fly a banner that reads Fire Pioli - Bench Cassel is what it takes to send a wake up call then so be it.

Fans can stop walking through the gates to purchase beer/food on game day.

Fans can stop buying tailgate treats/supplies/gear from local retailers.

Fans can stop paying $25 to park on game day.

There are a lot of things that fans can do.

The "Front Office" is Scott Pioli and he won't listen to the fans. In fact, if anyone has a pipeline to Scott and Scott wants to take a progressive response to an unhappy fan base, he can contact us. Let's set up a "fan and GM" online chat. It will be as civil as the day is long. Maybe Scott can loosen up and talk to us a little more and educate us a little more. Maybe, just maybe, we'll then understand a little bit more.
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EDIT: Never mind. Questions answered in PM.

You'll almost have to spell this point out to some people. That is the fact that we know Quinn isn't the answer and that we need to draft a 1st round QB with the potential to be elite. Otherwise, if Casshole does get benched and Quinn lays a turd, there'll be a lot of dumbasses saying "see, we knew Quinn wasn't any good. Great job chiefs planet. Blah blah blah."

The two most glaring things are Pioli's insistence on keeping Cassel (and then building the rest of the team around his weaknesses -- better RBs more protection, tall circus-catch receivers) and putting Romeo at HC and then NOT even hiring a DC.

Two "let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this works" moves. Not "win at any cost" moves. And teams who win make changes to win. It just feels like a "do the least we can" mentality, and that's what's the most frustrating for me.

Christie should go eat a bag of Dicks.

You have to bring up the blowout thing

Good advice. Mr. pr_capone knows plenty and he'll do just fine, Mr. RockChalk. Still, there's nothing wrong with brushing up on a few factoids that can be fresh at hand.

Besides, I'm quite certain that he's already contemplated everything that might appear in his prep notes ... perhaps a solid stat or two can be useful, though ... for the purpose of underscoring a particular issue ... that sort of thing.

At any rate, I have full faith in Mr. pr_capone whose rise to fame will undoubtedly be unequaled in modern times ... with the possible exception of that Lady Gaga person ... but, thankfully, it will likely be unnecessary for Mr. pr_capone to sleep with 500 ugly people in order to get his point across.

FAX THE CONFIDENT

I still say you should've worked "Get A Clue" in there

The Lions fans had to go to some lengthy efforts to rid of Matt Millen.

“We Deserve Better: Cassel is a Clown get him out of Town” Comment from the Arrowhead Pride article.

$20 sent

I can only hope my local station that usually shows KC games keeps it up this week, but i get a bad feeling they've sucked their way right out of getting aired.

I dont care what any KC personality or fan says, the banner is the right thing to do... desperate times etc.

All I request is some high quality pictures/vids of this thing.

Those Homers over at Arrowhead Pride are calling it a classless act and still support Pissoili
but most agree Cassel has to go.

I need redditors to upvote this link pls.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityCh...whead_for_the/

Arrowhead Pride and Chiefs Coalition can go **** themselves. Bunch of homers who argue the whole "HE'S OUR QB SO YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT HIM!" argument.

Pioli won't be fired. But I would almost bet that this will get Cassel benched soon.

I know it's Pioli's fault for keeping Cassel as long as he has.... but he can make up for all of that by putting a Quality QB on the field, hiring a new coach that is worth a shit and getting us some playoff wins SOON.

Yep, that's why ChiefsPlanet will forever rule all Chiefs Messageboards.

I'm taking my camera. I'll try to see what I can come up with.

This is the most epic thing I've ever seen a fanbase do. Well done.

Looks like (if we went with a banner on October 28 instead of a billboard), we've now got a 2nd flight paid for, with money to spare to change the banner if needed.

What time is pr capone's interview?

I said I'll donate for future flights. Can't do it at the moment.

But man if some can donate $10...we could do this for every home game for the rest of the season.

It'd be really funny if CP did this at an away game. LMAO

We could donate the leftover money to the "Fighting Pioli for Polio" fund.

I liked when Marty did it the Chiefs way.

It's shocking to see the differences in those forums and this one. Just completely opposite mindsets and intelligence levels.

Idiots like them are why this franchise fails.

2pm CST

Oh Hai Guyz. Here are some pics of the banner being made, courtesy of our friends at Air Lake Aviation.

http://i.imgur.com/MR4jw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xaMnJ.jpg

*updated OP with pics as well.

You HAVE to bring up the get a clue message the team sent to it's fans via social media and the lies about a qb competition and interviewing playoff coaches.

All 3 of those things are directly dishonest and disrespectful to us fans.

I assume it's a taped interview that will be played tonight or sometime soon?

Is Pioli in anyway associated with Penn State?

No, and even if he was we are not going anywhere near that train of though.

I'm guessing so. I'll have more info when they get here.

This is amazing. Any money from outside of CP?

Yup... not a lot but some. I have several donations not listed on the OP because I have no idea who they came from. I've sent off emails but have only heard back from a few.

Just list as other till they get back to you, if they ever do.

Question.....I'm doing some pricing on a couple of items......so I'm checking to see what everyone's interest is.

Would anyone be interested in buying a sticker or car sized magnet of this image?

:hail:

Great work, PR and kudos to those of you who donated.

PR, if you need anything, shoot me a PM. Can't do a donation at the moment but can offer my time if needed.

Keep up the great work guys.

LOL Holy shit this is going to happen LMAO

Most excited I've ever been on this msg board LOL!!!

They probably wept when Carl can canned.

We can officially say a guy all the way from Cali donated ;-)

I was first.....bitch.

The pics are awesome! Can't wait to see this over Arrowhead.

Seriously, Pioli is going to mount this on the upper deck.

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1311371_o.gif

I haven't been this excited for a Chiefs game in a long time. That's sad.

no, Pioli will just call in the a favor from the FAA and make the airspace restricted.

I'll stab you in the face with a soldering iron bro.

Next idea: get an escort for the plane.

http://www.state.gov/cms_images/phot...copter_500.jpg

With all this money, how much more for a billboard?

Shouldn't the banner fly in Texas if you want Clark to see it?

Thanks for making this happen.

paid up & ready , wish i was there to see it, take pics or vid plz
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Can't wait to witness this.

Lots of pics.

Wow. Very impressive guys.

amazing what we can accomplish when we put our empty heads together. which, not sprisingly, sounds like cocnuts banging together

yeah, we should find out how much that costs. Even if we do a 2nd flight, it looks like we'll have over $300 left over plus who knows how much more money will still come in.

Can the plane be made to drop little leaflets. You know, like we dropped over bagdad and vietnam. that $300 could buy several thousand leaflets to drop all over the parking lot.

what will be funny IF (which they wont) one of the media asks Scooter about it, he'll say "No...I didn't see it. I had no idea"


the flight going at 10-11?
wonder what time the players come out for warmups. DJ runs back into the locker room"Hey guys...you gotta check this out"....