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Jayhawker 10-24-2012 08:51 PM

There is a guy on YouTube that has videos of all the throws from Wilson, Smith, and Barkley from many games. I would recommend watching them, currently I'm preferring Wilson and Barkley than Smith cause Smith mostly throws 15-25 Yard Passes even though he does it really well. The guy's name on YouTube is JMPasq

Mr_Tomahawk 10-24-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawker (Post 9047042)
There is a guy on YouTube that has videos of all the throws from Wilson, Smith, and Barkley from many games. I would recommend watching them, currently I'm preferring Wilson and Barkley than Smith cause Smith mostly throws 15-25 Yard Passes even though he does it really well. The guy's name on YouTube is JMPasq

Can't find said youtube clip.

Can you link?

gohogs14 10-24-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9047158)
Can't find said youtube clip.

Can you link?

You have to have i think 50 posts to link, i cant either

ht tp://w ww.youtube .com/user/JPDraftJedi/videos?query=tyler

but that has all his videos without the spaces

mdchiefsfan 10-25-2012 05:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/JPDraftJ...os?query=tyler

Not too bad, I watched the Rutgers replay. His offensive line seems to do him no favors and I laugh at the fact that 82 on their team was dropping balls left and right. He shows good pocket awareness and good mobility to escape it and extend it. He makes his reads quickly and can anticipate the throwing window well. He is fearless. He won't be able to take hits that often in the NFL, but Good Lord he just doesn't care about oncoming pressure in his face. Only real complaint I have is he seems to make bad decisions when rushed. I mean he threw several toss up balls into double, even quadruple coverage and got lucky, that won't fly in the NFL. I need to watch more but that is what I took from watching the Rutgers game.

htismaqe 10-25-2012 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9046786)
I really like what the kid is on the field...it's just the leadership concerns that make me hesitant.

Yep, that's where I'm at too.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9046786)
No doubt he has the balls and confidence you look for...I think he and Barkley are 2a and 2b at this point. IMO anyway.

I have Wilson as my #2. Barkley would be #3 for me, at least.

NewChief 10-25-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9047557)
http://www.youtube.com/user/JPDraftJ...os?query=tyler

Not too bad, I watched the Rutgers replay. His offensive line seems to do him no favors and I laugh at the fact that 82 on their team was dropping balls left and right. He shows good pocket awareness and good mobility to escape it and extend it. He makes his reads quickly and can anticipate the throwing window well. He is fearless. He won't be able to take hits that often in the NFL, but Good Lord he just doesn't care about oncoming pressure in his face. Only real complaint I have is he seems to make bad decisions when rushed. I mean he threw several toss up balls into double, even quadruple coverage and got lucky, that won't fly in the NFL. I need to watch more but that is what I took from watching the Rutgers game.


As far as forcing the ball: that's not really been a habit of his in the past. To provide a little context for that game: he'd been on the bench, watching the team fall apart for 1.5 games at that point. He felt a lot of pressure to come in, be Superman, and rescue this team. I think that's one reason for the forced balls. In the past, most Hog fans were grateful that he didn't have Mallet-itis in trying to force the ball and make the wrong play at the wrong time, and that was always a point of contrast between the two QBs.

I'm sort of puzzled by the leadership questions. Is it because of his comments about the team after the Alabama game? Once again, I'll just say that was him trying to come in and be the captain of a rudderless ship. Of course, it didn't work out. If, after his comments, the team would have responded, come in and destroyed Rutgers the next week, then I think everyone would be saying what a great leader he is. That the team responded to him calling them out. Unfortunately, this team had bigger issues that a QB getting vocal (or staying silent) weren't able to fix.

Anyway, he's a good QB.

mdchiefsfan 10-25-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9047631)
As far as forcing the ball: that's not really been a habit of his in the past. To provide a little context for that game: he'd been on the bench, watching the team fall apart for 1.5 games at that point. He felt a lot of pressure to come in, be Superman, and rescue this team. I think that's one reason for the forced balls. In the past, most Hog fans were grateful that he didn't have Mallet-itis in trying to force the ball and make the wrong play at the wrong time, and that was always a point of contrast between the two QBs.

I'm sort of puzzled by the leadership questions. Is it because of his comments about the team after the Alabama game? Once again, I'll just say that was him trying to come in and be the captain of a rudderless ship. Of course, it didn't work out. If, after his comments, the team would have responded, come in and destroyed Rutgers the next week, then I think everyone would be saying what a great leader he is. That the team responded to him calling them out. Unfortunately, this team had bigger issues that a QB getting vocal (or staying silent) weren't able to fix.

Anyway, he's a good QB.

Thanks for the context. I watched Mississippi State 2011 and LSU 2011 as well. I have a feeling a lot of the issues I have with him are being created by his offensive line. He was constantly under duress, especially in the LSU game, that was brutal. He is forced to make quick decisions and his accuracy suffers because of it. When given time he is quite accurate, but on occasion puts too much air under the ball. One thing that really impressed me was his ability to run to the left and throw across his body to the left side of the field. I would like to see it more, but what I did see was good. That's a tough throw for most to make, he did it with apparent ease.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-25-2012 09:26 AM

My balls hurt...

gohogs14 10-25-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9047662)
Thanks for the context. I watched Mississippi State 2011 and LSU 2011 as well. I have a feeling a lot of the issues I have with him are being created by his offensive line. He was constantly under duress, especially in the LSU game, that was brutal. He is forced to make quick decisions and his accuracy suffers because of it. When given time he is quite accurate, but on occasion puts too much air under the ball. One thing that really impressed me was his ability to run to the left and throw across his body to the left side of the field. I would like to see it more, but what I did see was good. That's a tough throw for most to make, he did it with apparent ease.

The auburn 2010 game when mallett was injured was the last time he really had a decent OL. He played great on short notice. If you thought that LSU game was bad the 2011 alabama game was even worse...don't know how he survived it.

Our OL has played better the last few weeks but we havent played anyone. He gets his 2nd best target in TE Chris Gragg back this week who has missed the past 3 games so that will be a boost.

His deep ball needs some work but other than that if you give him a good OL he will be a solid QB

gohogs14 10-27-2012 10:56 AM

Looking good against ole miss so far. Had a beautiful pass to the TE for a TD.

Edit: And as i say that he almost gets intercepted twice lol

NewChief 10-27-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gohogs14 (Post 9053570)
Looking good against ole miss so far. Had a beautiful pass to the TE for a TD.

Yup. Stood in the pocket and took a huge hit. He's throwing some shitty passes as well, though. Almost been picked several times. Not sure if the wind is bothering him or what.

NewChief 10-27-2012 11:16 AM

Tyler is forcing the ball today against Ole Miss. Really lucky he hasn't been picked.

NewChief 10-27-2012 11:19 AM

And there's the pick. It was inevitable. Coach needs to talk to him.

If Bobby were here, he would chew his ass and settle him down. No one on staff to do that, sadly.

gohogs14 10-27-2012 11:19 AM

yeah...this is as bad as i've seen him...not sure whats wrong with him today. It is pretty cold there but still

gohogs14 10-27-2012 11:52 AM

Looking a little better now. Seems like he went into a funk after that hard hit when he threw the TD...hope his head is ok


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