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Sorter 11-03-2012 06:51 PM

AJ McCarron vs LSU
 
For those who want to see a possible prospect compete against a fantastic defense, watch this game.

Sfeihc 11-03-2012 06:54 PM

He missed a touchdown on that deep ball. Meanwhile, Barkley hit one on an even deeper ball. On McCarron's the WR could have done a better job of running to the ball but still probably overthrown.

Sorter 11-03-2012 06:54 PM

Nice open field tackle by Milliner.

Mr. Laz 11-03-2012 07:07 PM

isn't McCarron just 'a guy'?

Mr_Tomahawk 11-03-2012 07:51 PM

Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Give me A.J. McCarron as the top QB in 2013

Sorter 11-03-2012 08:11 PM

Zobel is worse than Bleacher Report, IMO.

milkman 11-03-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9080938)
Zobel is worse than Bleacher Report, IMO.

ChiefsandOsfan posted a link to his mock draft in the college football thread, and he has only 2 QBs going in the first round.

Matt Barkley to the Chiefs with the first pick, and McCarron to the Eagles in the middle of the first round.

That's just stupid beyond words.

Sorter 11-03-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9080947)
ChiefsandOsfan posted a link to his mock draft in the college football thread, and he has only 2 QBs going in the first round.

Matt Barkley to the Chiefs with the first pick, and McCarron to the Eagles in the middle of the first round.

That's just stupid beyond words.

Really, it should be a bannable offense to post that ****ing garbage.

Nightfyre 11-03-2012 08:57 PM

ChiefsandO'sfan:
I read it on twitter, it must be true - twitter is gospel.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9080947)
ChiefsandOsfan

That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing reerun.

DaWolf 11-03-2012 09:08 PM

McCarron with an overthrow of Cassel proportions. This guy is a first round pick?

AussieChiefsFan 11-03-2012 09:09 PM

Horrible! pass

Great Expectations 11-03-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081116)
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing reerun.

I'm in complete agreement here. At first I thought he just trolled a lot, but his stuff isn't clever enough for that.

RealSNR 11-03-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9080872)
Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Give me A.J. McCarron as the top QB in 2013

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RealSNR 11-03-2012 09:15 PM

Shawn Zobel will come back with a new mock draft this week with Zach Mettenberger going at #1 over all

RealSNR 11-03-2012 09:50 PM

What kind of a franchise QB cries? Shows a great deal of immaturity. Not a locker room leader of men.

Emotional guy, how can we expect him to keep his cool? /ChiefRoundup

:whackit:

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081116)
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing reerun.

A ****ING MEN!!

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081116)
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing reerun.

Do i need to clown you again?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9081378)
A ****ING MEN!!

Look in the mirror clown.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9081090)
ChiefsandO'sfan:
I read it on twitter, it must be true - twitter is gospel.

It was the guys mock draft dumbass.

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081391)
Look in the mirror clown.

Suck my pole, douche.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2012 10:08 PM

Nice drive at the end, but I just don't ever see him turning into an NFL QB.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9081135)
I'm in complete agreement here. At first I thought he just trolled a lot, but his stuff isn't clever enough for that.

Still think your trading Hosmer for Price lol.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081388)
Do i need to clown you again?

LMAO

Go for it, Corky.

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081410)
Still think your trading Hosmer for Price lol.

Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081411)
LMAO

Go for it, Corky.

Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a reerun that's all you got clown.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9081415)
Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

If not for Bobtard, this ****ing twitter fool is the biggest ****ing idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9081415)
Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

Never said he was dumbass.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081422)
Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a reerun that's all you got clown.

Quite honestly, your takes are so asinine and reeruned that nothing more needs to be said.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081426)
Quite honestly, your takes are so asinine that nothing more needs to be said.

Same could be said about you.

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081424)
Never said he was dumbass.

You believed it enough to post a tweet, like all of your moronic posts on this website. Tool.

Go suck an asshole.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081423)
If not for Bobtard, this ****ing twitter fool is the biggest ****ing idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

Don't you need to flip flop on the chiefs?

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081423)
If not for Bobtard, this ****ing twitter fool is the biggest ****ing idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

Dude is a brainwashed, twitter ballwasher.

Sfeihc 11-03-2012 10:14 PM

So after 12 hours of watching college football today I must agree there is no qb worth #1 overall. We are totally screwed and there is no relief in sight even if Egoli gets whacked and takes Romeo to Golden Corral.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081434)
Don't you need to flip flop on the chiefs?

Excuse me, Corky?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9081437)
Dude is a brainwashed, twitter ballwasher.


Internet badass gotta love clowns like you.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2012 10:15 PM

Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081443)
Excuse me, Corky?

Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081446)
Internet badass gotta love clowns like you.

:deevee:

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:16 PM

CorkyChiefsandOsfan.

ROFL

Perfect.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9081448)
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

CJizzles just not that bright is all.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081449)
Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

Yeah, sure. Get "Clay" in here, you ****ing dumbass reerun that lacking any individual thought.

****ing moron.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9081440)
So after 12 hours of watching college football today I must agree there is no qb worth #1 overall. We are totally screwed and there is no relief in sight even if Egoli gets whacked and takes Romeo to Golden Corral.

100000% disagree.

Players can develop further in the pros with the right coaching and talent.

Matt Ryan has taken an enormous leap with Dirk Koetter's offense and putting pieces around him.

Barkley can have a fine career.

If Pioli is wacked, hope will be restored.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9081448)
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

He has no beliefs. He's just a ****ing worthless moron that, for some reason, has been given a pass.

Not any longer.

Ceej 11-03-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9081448)
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

Peruse through the Royals repository thread if you choose to.

He's a doucher.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9081455)
100000% disagree.

Players can develop further in the pros with the right coaching and talent.

Matt Ryan has taken an enormous leap with Dirk Koetter's offense and putting pieces around him.

Barkley can have a fine career.

If Pioli is wacked, hope will be restored.

The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-03-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081462)
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

All you got someone that doesn't agree with you get some new stuff.

The Bad Guy 11-03-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081462)
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

I'll agree with that.

Does this QB crop look good now? No, it doesn't.

However, I'm not willing to pass on another QB because he "might" not pan out. I'm not wasting another year ****ing around with complete garbage at the position.

It sucks we aren't this bad in 2011, but it is what it is.

People saying we have no hope because the QB looks bad in a few games is absurd.

Sorter 11-03-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081462)
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

The banners came with a terrible price it seems...

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081466)
All you got someone that doesn't agree with you get some new stuff.

English, Mother****er! Do you speak it?

It appears that you don't. But thanks for copying and pasting Twitter comments that appear long before you post them.

Dumbass.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9081502)
The banners came with a terrible price it seems...

Karma Chameleon

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9081478)
I'll agree with that.

Does this QB crop look good now? No, it doesn't.

However, I'm not willing to pass on another QB because he "might" not pan out. I'm not wasting another year ****ing around with complete garbage at the position.

It sucks we aren't this bad in 2011, but it is what it is.

People saying we have no hope because the QB looks bad in a few games is absurd.

As with most all highly rated QB prospects, Barkley would need to be "protected" by the coaching staff and brought along slowly. But I think he has all the makings of a solid, if not spectacular, WCO QB.

I'd imagine by year three he'd be ready to put a team on his shoulders and lead. Time will tell.

Chiefspants 11-03-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9081449)
Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

Lol, you want to summon the wise man who was calling Pioli our "balla ass GM" in 2011? Okay.

RealSNR 11-03-2012 11:02 PM

I'm beginning to think a top QB is a top QB. If a guy has the potential, he's worth drafting. Period.

Like milkman was saying earlier, it boils down to pocket presence and accuracy. And all three of this year's top QBs possess good amounts of both.

They're all potential franchise QBs. I happen to think Geno Smith is the best. Just ****ing draft a guy.

Priest31kc 11-03-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9081607)
I'm beginning to think a top QB is a top QB. If a guy has the potential, he's worth drafting. Period.

Like milkman was saying earlier, it boils down to pocket presence and accuracy. And all three of this year's top QBs possess good amounts of both.

They're all potential franchise QBs. I happen to think Geno Smith is the best. Just ****ing draft a guy.

This.

Nightfyre 11-04-2012 01:12 AM

Anyway, tonight's game demonstrated two things about AJ McCarron:
1) I'm sold on his capability to be a franchise QB
2) He's going to need some polishing

keg in kc 11-04-2012 01:15 AM

Barkley is Sanchez if he'd stayed in school like he should have. I'm not completely sold, but think he'd be worth the risk. Although I like Smith more. But it's time to do something, try something.

AussieChiefsFan 11-04-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9081730)
Anyway, tonight's game demonstrated two things about AJ McCarron:
1) I'm sold on his capability to be a franchise QB
2) He's going to need some polishing

He did have some pretty bad throws though, towrds the end he was great

tredadda 11-04-2012 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9081733)
He did have some pretty bad throws though, towrds the end he was great

He was money when it mattered.

bandwagonjumper 11-04-2012 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9081763)
He was money when it mattered.

I'm never buying this. Mark Sanchez was money with the Jets in his first two years. You wouldn't want him would you? Late game heroics doesn't disguide the fact that he sucked in the second half and was the reason there nearly lost.

Woodchuck 11-04-2012 08:40 AM

McCarron did the one thing the others have not yesterday. I liked what I saw. So many NFL games come down to the last two minutes and McCarron did it against the #1 secondary in college football yesterday.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-04-2012 08:40 AM

JFC

tredadda 11-04-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandwagonjumper (Post 9081792)
I'm never buying this. Mark Sanchez was money with the Jets in his first two years. You wouldn't want him would you? Late game heroics doesn't disguide the fact that he sucked in the second half and was the reason there nearly lost.

1. I don't want him with our #1 pick

2. He won. When it mattered most, he carried his team on his back and won.

3. Sanchez is garbage, but he is still better than any QB we currently have on our roster.

Dayze 11-04-2012 09:13 AM

McCarron will be a good late 1st to mid 2nd round pick. If we are morons and take an OL with our top 3 pick, I'd take AJ later

milkman 11-04-2012 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9081934)
McCarron did the one thing the others have not yesterday. I liked what I saw. So many NFL games come down to the last two minutes and McCarron did it against the #1 secondary in college football yesterday.

He did it against a prevent defense.

If he sucks for 58 minutes against an NFL quality opponent, that last 2 minutes is just Matt Cassel garbage time.

Reaper16 11-04-2012 10:37 AM

That was McCarron's first bad game of the season (and yeah, it was BAD). It's why in the other thread about him I said he was still a 3rd round guy despite playing like a superstar this season...I was worried that the carriage would turn into a pumpkin. It did last night.

He's still a guy with lots of NFL upside. We'll see if this is his only poor game of the season.

Chris Meck 11-04-2012 11:11 AM

I'd take him in the 3rd. After drafting a QB #1. I might find a QB worthy of the top pick in the 2nd, too. Hell, maybe the 4th.

Saul Good 11-04-2012 12:11 PM

McCarron will be a top 15 pick if he comes out this year. He will likely be top 5 if he comes out next year.

Saul Good 11-04-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9082123)
That was McCarron's first bad game of the season (and yeah, it was BAD). It's why in the other thread about him I said he was still a 3rd round guy despite playing like a superstar this season...I was worried that the carriage would turn into a pumpkin. It did last night.

He's still a guy with lots of NFL upside. We'll see if this is his only poor game of the season.

In his worst game of the season, he completed over half of his passes with a game winning touchdown and no INTs on the road against the best defense in the country (other than his own).

Reaper16 11-04-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9082387)
In his worst game of the season, he completed over half of his passes with a game winning touchdown and no INTs on the road against the best defense in the country (other than his own).

He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

BlackHelicopters 11-04-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9082368)
McCarron will be a top 15 pick if he comes out this year. He will likely be top 5 if he comes out next year.


Top 15? Interesting.

Saul Good 11-04-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9082405)
He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

He played the best defense in the country at night on the road in the most difficult venue in the country. They led the e tire game, and he did what was asked of him. When the Tigers started scoring and took the lead, he marched down the field and won the game.

Against LSU, if you don't throw 2-3 INTs, you haven't had a terrible game.

Reaper16 11-04-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9082425)
He played the best defense in the country at night on the road in the most difficult venue in the country. They led the e tire game, and he did what was asked of him. When the Tigers started scoring and took the lead, he marched down the field and won the game.

Against LSU, if you don't throw 2-3 INTs, you haven't had a terrible game.

Every NFL defense is better than LSU's. McCarron must improve.

He will go in the first round. I wouldn't draft him there, but he'll go there.

htismaqe 11-04-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9082405)
He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

In a way, that is kind of what we need.

Woodchuck 11-04-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9082037)
He did it against a prevent defense.

If he sucks for 58 minutes against an NFL quality opponent, that last 2 minutes is just Matt Cassel garbage time.

Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

RealSNR 11-04-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9082556)
Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

Prevent is prevent, dumbass. Just because Les Miles is a reerun doesn't mean McCarron was brilliant against all odds last night.

milkman 11-04-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9082556)
Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

I am not going to spend a top 10 pick on a mediocre game manager.

That is McCarron's ceiling.

milkman 11-04-2012 01:48 PM

And the majority of plays in that winning drive came against a 3 man rush, prevent zone.

One good read does not a good QB make.

Reaper16 11-04-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9082712)
I am not going to spend a top 10 pick on a mediocre game manager.

That is McCarron's ceiling.

No it isn't. Only a dumbass would say that, milkman.

notorious 11-04-2012 02:34 PM

How many successful NFL QB's were surrounded by 4 & 5 star talent in college?


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